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Old May 22, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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has anyone dealt with these guys recently since john passed away?

more particularly has anyone here dealt with them on tunning issues? they are trying to work out a deal on tunning and after the many issues i've had with tpis and the rest not pulling their weight i'm curious what these guys can do. talking about dropping the car off with them but i'm still not sure.

any comments or suggestions on them?
Old May 22, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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I had John in the driver seat of my car tuning it many years ago and it was one of the best tunes I had done. In 00, I believe he assigned the job to one of his people and it was a good tune too. Don't know about now but I am bringing mine to someone in MN to dyno tune it so I can see what it is making for power.

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Old May 22, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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well when i go to pick up my car next week it's right on the way home so i figured it can't really hurt since they will have my car there and then i can dyno it too. thought i'd see what others thought.

Old May 22, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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kandied you really have it out for TPIS.
Old May 22, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by kandied91z
well when i go to pick up my car next week it's right on the way home so i figured it can't really hurt since they will have my car there and then i can dyno it too. thought i'd see what others thought.

They welded in another O2 bung so they could have readings from both sides and I suspect a wide band O2 sensor too. They took about a week to tune my car. When I had the SR intake and headers, they took almost a day to do that between testing and burning the chip. Unless they have changed their procedures, I doubt they will dyno it unless the weather is bad. Not sure. You might have to ask them.
Old May 22, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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as i said i'm just looking for overall opinions of them....the plan is to just have them take a look to see if anything major pops up. if it's decided they need it to actually do something then great, if not then i'll keep trucking home and work on it when i can.





as far as tpis....i won't get into it but i don't have it out for them. if i did i would have went through the 6 figure lawsuit i could have had against them. unfortunately the way bi state laws work and foreign business practices they can get away with alot which is why i won't deal with anyone without going to them direct. much like i did with air ride and now i'm considering with LPE. however i wouldn't purchase an airfoil off tpis....and if it ever works out that i do run across any of their crew....well.....i'll just leave that one alone!

Old May 23, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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Will Lingenfelter work on third-gens?? If so, it'd probably be worth it for me to make the long drive out there when I get my GTA mostly put together...

When I lived in Houston, I called MTI to see what they could do for me - the guy that I spoke with was kinda sh!tty when he sneered "We only work on late-model F-bodies!"

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Old May 23, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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aklim: You're bringing your car to Hi-Tech? Is Brian going to do the tuning? Where did you hear about them?

Being local here...as usual, I've heard a number of mixed feelings about their tuning abilities. But there's always good and bad.

Originally posted by kandied91z
and if it ever works out that i do run across any of their crew....well.....i'll just leave that one alone!
You are pathetic. Oh, and a bada** too.

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Old May 23, 2004 | 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by V8Rumble
Will Lingenfelter work on third-gens?? If so, it'd probably be worth it for me to make the long drive out there when I get my GTA mostly put together...

When I lived in Houston, I called MTI to see what they could do for me - the guy that I spoke with was kinda sh!tty when he sneered "We only work on late-model F-bodies!"

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He did work on 3rd gens. I saw him load sensor stuff into the car and drive it with his assistant taking readings way back when and also did drop it off in 97 for him to work on it. I can't imagine why they would not work on them since people are still bringing their third gens to him to do engine mods.
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Originally posted by LT1Powered85Z
aklim: You're bringing your car to Hi-Tech? Is Brian going to do the tuning? Where did you hear about them?
Basically from Lingenfelter. I asked if they could do a chip over the phone and they suggested Formato's Fasterproms. I was still having trouble getting it to run and they had changed the program several times so they said something was mechanically wrong. Talked to Lingenfelters about doing diagnostic work and they said I could talk to Brian if I was wanting him to come to me or I could bring it to Decatur for them to work on it. Since it was winter and I didn't have a truck to haul it, I had Brian come to do some work and make some tweaks on the EPROM. I was paying him for 8 hrs + travel time so I might as well make full use of his time. He found the problem within an hour or less and made some adjustments and sent a copy of what he did to Formato. Formato was unable to get the chip finely tuned because I could not get the car running. Now they were.

Brian would be doing the tuning because he is familiar with the setup. I will be using the HSR with 42# injectors and a his design of a camshaft cam specs will be 230/236 - 110 lobe sep, 108 intake centerline (2 deg. advanced). Lift with 1.6/1.5 rockers is .622 / .570". Also will be changing to Comp Cams springs with titanium retainers and different locks. This gives me a chance to get the car on a dyno and see what it will do. The last build I did with LPE was just using the stuff they recommended for their 450HP motor. Since this is going to be vastly different, I will want to see how it works out.
Old May 24, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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eric you would be pretty pissed off if a company cost you 10,000 and got away with it because of holes in the law......go **** yourself *****. you don't like what i have to say quit responding in my threads, go hang out at the MN board with TPIS!

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eric you would be pretty pissed off if a company cost you 10,000 and got away with it because of holes in the law......go **** yourself *****. you don't like what i have to say quit responding in my threads, go hang out at the MN board with TPIS!



A company doesn't cost you anything. You spend the money, not the company.

Way to be!

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Old May 24, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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normally i'd probably look at your comments as your own personal ideals but seeing as how tpis sponsors your club as well its hard not to believe your biased.

say as you wish....a company also stands behind their product and when the list is 10 fold of others with similar problems something has to set off a light.


you always and obviously still haven't changed your ways.......keep up the good work ***.

Old May 24, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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normally i'd probably look at your comments as your own personal ideals but seeing as how tpis sponsors your club as well its hard not to believe your biased.

say as you wish....a company also stands behind their product and when the list is 10 fold of others with similar problems something has to set off a light.


you always and obviously still haven't changed your ways.......keep up the good work ***.

You obviously don't know me very well.

I don't care who is affiliated with who. If a company sucks, the company sucks. There are no two ways about it.

I don't care if it was you b****ing about your new "sponsor" air ride, or whatever. If you're a jacka** and all you do is badmouth someone, and b**** about stupid stuff, I will say the same stuff.

You're lame. If people aren't kissing your a** about your car and how it looks and how it's so cool, you get all pissed off and start calling names, as you are here.

It's pathetic. You're just mad that you spent your money poorly. As I've said to others...the BBB goes after businesses that are being run improperly. The BBB has yet to stand up for ANY of the a**clowns that have talked s*** about TPIS on the many boards out there.

There's a reason...because the people pissing and moaning about it, don't have a damnned leg to stand on, but they'll be the first to point fingers at everyone else when the combo that they dreamed up and threw together sucks and doesn't make the numbers they think it should. I see it EVERY day. Get over it or spend your money more wisely.

If LPE didn't tune your car the way YOU thought it should be tuned regardless of their knowledge or their policies, you would come here and post the same s*** about them. You're predictable.

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Old May 24, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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either way, we are not hearing both sides of the arguement. So, I suggest we put this pissing contest on hold and send the car to either LPE or take it to HTM or have Formato do your chip. If Formato has a money back gaurantee, take advantage of it if you don't like the way it was done. I though they did but am not positive because they did the chip well enough that it never crossed my mind.



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