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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by respectirocz
i'm going to school for automotive engineering and there are alot fo people who love imports european cars and of course us american guys

i have plenty of respect for those who deserve it, i'm a chevy guy but i'll repsect a ford or two, i'll respect some rear drive imports like nissan 240sx or toyota supras, they can handle well

but theres one thing i noticed
not a single person in the entire major believes they can get good performance from a honda

the only thing these guys have going is that they are cheap

anyway, glad to see one import tuner converted

oh and as for tpi, fuel injection and the sort
fuel injection is real easy to understand when u compare it to a carburator, the computer is really just a big calculator
Carbs are amazingly simple to understand.
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 85_305
Yes, I relized that after I clicked "post quick reply" that I said a no-no. You cant get the T5 w/ the 350 L98.. my mistake. But, NO you will not need a freaking "turbo" to get 400+ horses out of a 350. These AREN'T honduhs, remember :stickstoungueout:
Hell.. I am going to be getting around 300hp or so w/ only minor mods on my freaking 305, lol.
As teke said though, the ammount of torque you will get from that l98 will keep you pinned to your seat, and you will have great fun with it.
I'm telling you, unless you actually DRAG RACE the thing, there is no need for nitrous.
But TPI, in MY case anyhow, would be hard to build up. I know jack shat about fuel injection (except the basics; GET IT TUNED, lol). Carb is EASY to get power out of, and parts are cheap for carbed cars compared to TPI.

I dont wanna burst your bubble or anything but just curious. 300 horses and 350 torque out of a 305 is possible yes. Even easy. But with minor mods id like to see that. Could you elaborate on these "minor mods" or are they not that minor.
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Yes, carbs are INCREDIBALY easy to understand
But I would rather not disclose what I have done, as I dont want all the 350 owners put to shame
But seriously, after I have it dynoed I might post what I have done.
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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glad to see another person thats souping up their LG4!!! im doin the same thing, the engine is coming out in a few weeks, hoping to have it out of the car for a week while modding the engine and itll be in the car again by late april
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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I'm a good old american boy as well... but all the honda bashing is unnecessary. We have some ridiculously fast civics here in Wisconsin. With a j-spec motor, a turbo running a decent amount of boost and some traction mods, I've watched these things make jokes out of LS1's.

I don't want a hail storm of "omg u ricer go home!!" replies. I chose the american way of making horsepower, but if you're intelligent, you can make anything fast. I've watched civics hit 10's and I've watched a "Mighty L98 trans am" hit mid 17's (no it wasn't healthy).

Not bashing anyone or fighting on any particular point. Just trying to point out that we should all keep the bashing to a minimum, and supply more helpful information. If someone is converting from Import to Domestic, he doesn't need to hear a bunch of hicks talking trash about his old platform. I've had fourth gen guys do that to me cause I work on third gens. Its not very welcoming, especially if you still carry some fondness for the previous platform.

Just show a bit more respect guys, or if you can't, stick to the information perhaps? Just my $0.02
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Re: IrocZ swap?

Originally Posted by KnightRider350
I'm a good old american boy as well... but all the honda bashing is unnecessary. We have some ridiculously fast civics here in Wisconsin. With a j-spec motor, a turbo running a decent amount of boost and some traction mods, I've watched these things make jokes out of LS1's.

I don't want a hail storm of "omg u ricer go home!!" replies. I chose the american way of making horsepower, but if you're intelligent, you can make anything fast. I've watched civics hit 10's and I've watched a "Mighty L98 trans am" hit mid 17's (no it wasn't healthy).

Not bashing anyone or fighting on any particular point. Just trying to point out that we should all keep the bashing to a minimum, and supply more helpful information. If someone is converting from Import to Domestic, he doesn't need to hear a bunch of hicks talking trash about his old platform. I've had fourth gen guys do that to me cause I work on third gens. Its not very welcoming, especially if you still carry some fondness for the previous platform.

Just show a bit more respect guys, or if you can't, stick to the information perhaps? Just my $0.02

What it all poors down to is this. Raceing is a rich mans sport. Done and done. American car or Japanese Car or European car can all go as fast as you want as long as you have the money to fund it. What it comes down to is American cars, for the most part, you can make faster for a lot cheaper than Japanese cars. Thats pretty much it. RWD for 1 is 10 times better than FWD for pretty much any performance type of stand point. More displacement = Higher Possibility of Power/Torque. Those 2 factors alone will make me stay American for the longest of times. Now if Chevy only got their **** together for a future RWD performance car that is affordable.
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Re: IrocZ swap?

Originally Posted by KnightRider350
I'm a good old american boy as well... but all the honda bashing is unnecessary. We have some ridiculously fast civics here in Wisconsin. With a j-spec motor, a turbo running a decent amount of boost and some traction mods, I've watched these things make jokes out of LS1's.
That's the thing. In most cases they need an engine swap WITH a power adder to run with factory late model true performance cars. And fast Hondas are definately NOT common, no matter where you live. 90% are total **** boxes, 8% have a few mods but still no real performance, and 2% can actually get up and go. Even a best case scenario CRX or hatch Civic with a B16/B18 swap will STILL need a power adder just to keep up with a stock LT1 or LS1.
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 85_305
Yes, carbs are INCREDIBALY easy to understand
But I would rather not disclose what I have done, as I dont want all the 350 owners put to shame
But seriously, after I have it dynoed I might post what I have done.

lol, as you can see in my sig ive done the 305 build up. Some words of advice before you get too carried away (if you havent yet). Leave the stock bottom end dont even bother building it up. Hey throw a top end up on it blow her up and build a 350 or bigger small block. 305 just isnt worth building the bore is way to small for the stroke and it chokes the thing like crazy. The power is really limited on it. So like i said top end away at it. After teh bottom end goes save the top end and throw it on a bigger cube application (no not a 307 either ). Now back onto your secret build. If you are not using a stock cam/heads/intake/FI,Carb system. Then its far from being a minor mod project. Just a heads up on that. I just dont want dude to think he can throw a flowmaster muffler on and a KN filter and damn near push 300 horses.
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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I know they require an engine swap and a power adder to become as fast as "late model" stuff. I wasn't arguing that V8/RWD power isn't far easier to accomplish. I just wanted to voice that we should be more welcoming, and less trash talking, as anything is possible.

As far as "rice" goes that doesn't require engine swaps and power adders...I've seen eclipses/talons that have "minor mods" and are ridiculously powerful. (and to stem the next two dozen messages saying this) Yes, they'll probably blow up after a summer... Felt like making a point though. If someone's got the money or the ambition/intelligence, anything is possible.

I agree with devilsadvocate on the 305 build... don't waste your time/money/patience. If you're impatient, throw the topend on the 305 and let 'er pop. 350's are too damn common to waste big money on a small displacement 5.0.
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Re: IrocZ swap?

Originally Posted by Phantomfe3
glad to see another person thats souping up their LG4!!! im doin the same thing, the engine is coming out in a few weeks, hoping to have it out of the car for a week while modding the engine and itll be in the car again by late april
Hell yes dude! I took the engine out in September or October sometime. I have it together, I just have to go back and re-torque everything. Then, when all this freaking snow MELTS and STAYS AWAY, I will put the engine back into the Camaro.

Yo dude.. I didn't mean to "rip on you", I am not making fun of you or anything. I am just saying that ANYTHING you can do in a honduh, you can do 100x better in an American V8.

And according to DevilsAdvocate, I guess my 305 buildup *isn't* minor

But this "small displacement 5.0" is gonna whoop some major 350 ****
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