91 RX-7 vs 88 iroc
Several $3000 - $4000 sticker price Camaros have sold for over 1.1 million dollars. Who cares how rare it was, or what options it had or didn't have. The rarest Mazda ever built, no matter how long from now, will never reach that kind of appreciation, EVER. Those same 1.1 million dollar Camaros were selling for only a few hundred dollars back in the late 70s early 80s. 15 years can make a BIG difference. And remember, this is America, and a domestic branded product, built in the States or Canada, is still an American car and can and often will appreciate with age - especially so with an enthusiasts car. Imports (other than high end European exotics) just don't do that here.
History tends to repeat itself, so why couldn't a 3rd gen car do the same? As you said many are piles of junk on borrowed time. That should wittle down the "dime a dozen" to a select few.
The only RX-7 that will ever see decent resale values are the 3rd gens, as all the earlier cars are crap, plain and simple. Add in the fact that even the best built turbo 13b rarely sees over 60K miles and many of those cars will disappear into crushed piles. They will never exceed original sticker price, even factoring in inflation.
I can build a Camaro solely of aftermarket parts. Not a single OEM part, stamping, frame, or any other piece. I can start with absolutely no shell, no VIN, and build a complete car. Can you? Will you ever?
Seeking sympathy for your RX-7 admiration on a Camaro site is just plain foolish...
History tends to repeat itself, so why couldn't a 3rd gen car do the same? As you said many are piles of junk on borrowed time. That should wittle down the "dime a dozen" to a select few.
The only RX-7 that will ever see decent resale values are the 3rd gens, as all the earlier cars are crap, plain and simple. Add in the fact that even the best built turbo 13b rarely sees over 60K miles and many of those cars will disappear into crushed piles. They will never exceed original sticker price, even factoring in inflation.
I can build a Camaro solely of aftermarket parts. Not a single OEM part, stamping, frame, or any other piece. I can start with absolutely no shell, no VIN, and build a complete car. Can you? Will you ever?
Seeking sympathy for your RX-7 admiration on a Camaro site is just plain foolish...
Last edited by Marc 85Z28; Dec 11, 2006 at 06:47 PM.
...it hasnt started appreciating since it was driven off the lot, why would it start now? you have no factual evidence to support your claim. since your the one who made the initial statement, you are the one with the burden to show me that there is a logical and factual reason that what you say is true...not just because the car is a "collectors car" and it has "history". mustangs have been around forever...you dont see fox bodies appreciating in value.
at 8000hp, and 4 seconds, there really is no resembling anything other then a fiberglass chassis with some decals. so there goes your theory. but at the same time, you reiterate my statement about gross ignorance. you cant appreciate a fast car that was put together well...to you it has to be a 3rd gen mulleteer with a useless 305 TBI setup and you think it should be worth its weight in gold. your a joke to racing and its betterment. your just another waxer with a sad excuse for a lame opinion.
at 8000hp, and 4 seconds, there really is no resembling anything other then a fiberglass chassis with some decals. so there goes your theory. but at the same time, you reiterate my statement about gross ignorance. you cant appreciate a fast car that was put together well...to you it has to be a 3rd gen mulleteer with a useless 305 TBI setup and you think it should be worth its weight in gold. your a joke to racing and its betterment. your just another waxer with a sad excuse for a lame opinion.
I'd appriciate it if you lay off the ignorance comments, cause you don't know me like that pal. When it comes down to it, you don't know what in the hell you are talking about either. As far as not appriciating what you call a "fast" car, you're right, I DON'T. As a matter of fact, I don't really appriciate ANY car that originated from overseas. Maybe I'm just too old fashioned for a 25 year old. So personally, you can take your precious RX 7, and stick it up your ***.
Last edited by Pneumatic_Tire; Dec 11, 2006 at 09:44 PM.
well, now that we have run around the block a few times, lets get back to what the post was initially asking. I think that his rx7 option would be a better option as opposed to his 3rd gen option. just my opinion. besides, in the end i highly doubt he is thinking about how he wants to buy a car for the long term investment of it. buy whats fun. a second gen rx7 for the most part is cheap to get, just as a 3rd gen camaro of equal quality.
I'd appriciate it if you lay off the ignorance comments, cause you don't know me like that pal. When it comes down to it, you don't know what in the hell you are talking about either. As far as not appriciating what you call a "fast" car, you're right, I DON'T. As a matter of fact, I don't really appriciate ANY car that originated from overseas. Maybe I'm just too old fashioned for a 25 year old. So personally, you can take your precious RX 7, and stick it up your ***.
awww...someone get some sand in their thong? i will lay off the ignorance comments when you bring a gun to the gun fight. i dont have to know you to remark on your flawed comments and unsubstantiated claims. i obviously know nothing about anything by your way of thinking. believe me, your approval really means diddly squat to me
My RX7 would probably boogity over every car in this thread that i've seen. straight line anyways, cornering it may need some help. i dont want anyone taking this the wrong way, i am by no means saying the resale value for RX7 is amazing or they are super cars, and i am DEFINATELY not saying rotaries are worth anything more then a limp dick and sour creme.
how the hell did we even get into this debate over what will sell for what in years to come!? someone threw this whole **** way off topic because we were talking about the aftermarket suspension support for both and actually having a decent discussion that may have amounted to something then twinkle toes here brings his awesome arguement to the table.
Take a look at how much F-bod's and older Stangs are being sold for. Then look at your run of the mill rx7. Which one is going for more?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...spagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...spagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...spagenameZWDVW
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...56257019QQrdZ1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda...spagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda...61469672QQrdZ1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda...63675800QQrdZ1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda...66985211QQrdZ1
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MAZDA...spagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda...spagenameZWDVW
Huh.. the only trend I see here is the mazda having ZERO appreciation, and the IROC seems to have appreciated quite a bit
Maybe I'm missing the point of this conversation 
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