View Poll Results: Should a V10 be a Camaro option??
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V10 in a Camaro
11-02-2006, 07:28 AM
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Would anyone care to explain why a V10 does not sound as good as a V8? I've never heard a V10, other than a co-workers F250, and I know that is not set up to draw attention to its sound. Bare with me for a second...
Sound in a:
4 cylinder < 6 cylinder < 8 cylinder...right? Why doesn't a V10 sound better than a V8?
Sound in a:
4 cylinder < 6 cylinder < 8 cylinder...right? Why doesn't a V10 sound better than a V8?
11-02-2006, 10:32 AM
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Ahh. Didnt pick up on it being a 2005. They look as different as Harley Davidsons and penguins to me.
11-02-2006, 10:44 AM
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However it still is a stupid suggestion. The pinnacle GM product is Corvette and the ‘Vette doesn't need or warrant a V10. Therefore the Camaro doesn't need one either.
Then there is the whole “it doesn’t fit Camaro’s image or heritage” angle of which I agree 100%.
The bottom line is this is a dumb idea and I just wasted another minute of my life responding to yet another worthless thread on the Internet.
11-02-2006, 10:52 AM
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Yeah, and what a waste it was, because you didn't even answer my question.
I don't care about putting a V10 in a Camaro. I'm happy with the high-end V8. I was asking a serious question. Is there a mechanical reason why everyone here is saying that a V8 sounds better than a V10, or is this a completely subjective position?
I don't care about putting a V10 in a Camaro. I'm happy with the high-end V8. I was asking a serious question. Is there a mechanical reason why everyone here is saying that a V8 sounds better than a V10, or is this a completely subjective position?
11-02-2006, 11:19 AM
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It is subjective, and most people's reference for a performance v10 seems to be the Viper, which is notorious for not sounding that great, so people just assume all v10s sound like crap. They don't.
11-02-2006, 04:36 PM
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Would anyone care to explain why a V10 does not sound as good as a V8? I've never heard a V10, other than a co-workers F250, and I know that is not set up to draw attention to its sound. Bare with me for a second...
Sound in a:
4 cylinder < 6 cylinder < 8 cylinder...right? Why doesn't a V10 sound better than a V8?
Sound in a:
4 cylinder < 6 cylinder < 8 cylinder...right? Why doesn't a V10 sound better than a V8?
V8 (cross plane anyway) has two sequential cylinders that fire on the same side that give you the burble and they fire evenly spaced.
1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3 for the LS1
The Viper V10 fires at 90 and 54 degree intervals and fires left than right bank each time.
1-10-9-4-3-6-5-8-7-2
That's some of the engine part of the sound difference anyway. Exhaust valve diameters and opening and closing points supposedly matter too.
Last edited by HAZ-Matt; 11-02-2006 at 04:44 PM.
11-02-2006, 09:55 PM
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If I remember right (from an article in GMHTP a while back), there are a couple different ways of building a v10. The first way is easier/cheaper to make, but the firing order (or degrees between cylinders firing) is really screwy. The other way, you have even distance between firings, but it costs more to make.
I think the biggest difference is how the crank is made. I think the Viper v10 and most truck v10s (the viper v10 is a derivative of the Ram v10) are made the first way. Other v10s, such as the one found in the Lambo and Porsche Carrera GT are made the better, but more expensive way. They thus sound better as the firing sequence is even across the board.
Hoever, I think that v12s sound the best and are super smooth as well. You can have massive hp and not upset grandma
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I think the biggest difference is how the crank is made. I think the Viper v10 and most truck v10s (the viper v10 is a derivative of the Ram v10) are made the first way. Other v10s, such as the one found in the Lambo and Porsche Carrera GT are made the better, but more expensive way. They thus sound better as the firing sequence is even across the board.
Hoever, I think that v12s sound the best and are super smooth as well. You can have massive hp and not upset grandma
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11-03-2006, 10:33 AM
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11-03-2006, 04:32 PM
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Yeah, I think JG95z28 might be reffering to the 911 Carrera. Honest mistake. The Carrera GT is Porsches mid-engined super car, and I could see how the name could confuse someone. Ive also met people who have mistaken the Ford GT for the Mustang GT in a conversation.
11-04-2006, 12:24 PM
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You KNOW things are really, really, really boring when threads like this start up.
Next poll????........
"Should Camaro have a Cummings diesel option, off road mud tires, and be based on the Hummer H3." .....
Vote NOW!
(FWIW: Despite the subject, the tread has evolved into some more intresting talk.
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