That wouldn't surprise me one bit. But like I said earlier,3600 pounds is far more palatable than 4100, (which is NOT palatable at ALL to me), for the top Camaro.

 

Mustang guys balk at the weight of the GT500 as well. Nothing new there.
Most love it still and mod the hell outta them (or keep the stock and just ENJOY it)
I'm sure you guys will too. (wrt the Z28 and SS for that matter)

I don't think weight will kill so much of the sales, I agree regular people won't care about the weight so much as the price.

If it's too expensive...it won't matter if its 3000lbs or 4500lbs

 

That may be true, but many, many, many people will ALWAYS think of the SS
as the top model and that will never change. No matter, both models are
gonna be kickin!!!

 

I don't think the weight of the heaviest Camaro matters. Let's say you could get your lightweight model at 3600 with a 330hp V6, and then you could get a 550hp S/C monster with 4100 pounds, you probably wouldn't care.

I consider the 3900 pound 430hp LS3 model the top one (as far as what I'd consider buying).

 

I'm not really sure I understand what you're saying. Well, whatever. 3900 pounds. 4100 pounds. What's the difference? They should just call this sucker a Caprice coupe.

 

I agree with you, or they should have come up with a new name, because of all the history (the good, the bad, and the mullet ugly) so many people attach to the name. That way the camaro could stay dead and those of us who care more about what the car offers instead of what its trying to live up to. To me this car isn't a camaro iteration, its a new car with a different audience than the previous incarnations of the name.

GM will make this 2 door, 4 seat, RWD V8, under 30k car perform better than anything new of the same model year on the street with the same combination. Thats more than enough for me.

 

What if they called it a Camaro.....annnnnnd, everyone liked it just the same? 3900lbs or not?

3900lbs is heavy (if that's the real deal). Don't get me wrong...I expected a little lighter (being realistic; anything less than 3800lbs. worth of SS), but if they do it right, if they really focus on delivering a world-class car (which from everything we've been told to date; they are)...I have no doubts that the weight isn't going to be as big a deal as it seems right now. That's just my .02 on the whole weight issue....

 

Cars have gotten heavier and maybe the Zeta roots were probably better off staying under a sedan. That being said this car will be fully worthy of it's Camaro name. I've got no doubt that GM will make it that way. Certainly the style is 100% Camaro.
But the curb weight at 3900 or 4000 isn't the end of the world. It just that for many of us we didn't want to see the Camaro rise to the 4K number. And past other well known "heavy" vehicles; GTO, GT-R, 03-04 Cobra, and GT500. The one good thing is that in all of these cases good balance and/or big power delivers the numbers but the question always remains "what if" they were lighter. Not a question I wanted to ask on the Camaro.

 

What I'm saying is that it shouldn't matter to you what the supercharged model weighs, since you'd want an N/A model.

 

I hope that people LOVE IT. I hope that people go crazy over it and buy it in huge numbers. Considering that the car I've been holding out for - for like 10 years now - will weigh EVEN MORE than that, my disappointment is staggering and mass-wise, it is completely unacceptable to me. But for the good of the marque, I hope it sells well.

We've been ruthlessly ridiculing those cars you've mentioned for years. The Z/28 will out-weigh them all. Yes, it will EVEN out-weigh the GT500. It sickens me actually. It even closely approaches the SRT8 Challenger in weight. I'm sure it'll pull down the numbers, but something is lost in the translation. And I agree, things started going down the crapper when Zeta was selected to underpin the Camaro. Like Bob said, huge bummer.

 

I was thinking last night about how this car (IMO) has jumped the tracks and lost its way.

Allow me to put the following out there for no reason other than discussion. I tried to use "reputable" internet sources but obviously can't verify the accuracy, so I rounded to the nearest hundred pounds. I also used info for base, non big block, non special models.


1968 Corvette - 3200 lbs
1968 Camaro - 3200 lbs

1978 Corvette - 3600 lbs
1978 Camaro - 3600 lbs

1988 Corvette - 3200 lbs
1988 Camaro - 3200 lbs

1998 Corvette - 3200 lbs
1998 Camaro - 3400 lbs

2008 Corvette - 3200 lbs
"2008" Camaro - 3900 lbs

Honestly, this only confirmed what I already knew. I was, however, surprised by the weights of the '70s cars.

 

Sure does widen the gap from the Corvette huh...

4th gens did a hell of a job making C5 guys wonder what happened, now the Z28 could have trouble holding off the base Vette, not a chance in the world for the SS.


I ain't no chubby chaser

 

I don't think the weights for the 60s models are very accurate. But back then, weight depended even more on equipment levels than it does now. Remember that base cars had a 6 cyl with about 110hp or so (in modern net ratings), a three speed manual, manual drum brakes, manual steering, etc.

Equipped as close as possible to a modern car (still missing a significant amount of safety and convenience equipment) and with an engine that produced 250+ net horsepower, weights were close to 4000 pounds for most muscle cars. Maybe the Camaro was more like 3600-3700 back then, being based on the Nova.

 

But the Z/28 will have a 550+hp S/C engine, right?

Why single out that model?

The LS3 version will be under 4000 pounds.

 

Most first gen Camaros were lighter than that. There really wasn't much to the more mundane versions of those cars. Perhaps I should have been more clear, I looked at the numbers for non special, base V8 cars.

During my brief research I saw ranges from about 3000 lbs for a stripper V6 to 3700 for a big block convertible.

I actually had a '68. It was a no frills sport coupe V8 car. Just going from memory I seem to recall that it was about 3200 lbs, so the numbers really didn't surprise me (if anything, I was surprised the Corvette was that heavy). I still have the owners manual from that car. Unfortunately it gives no curb weight ranges.

*EDIT* - I was able to dig up a 10 year old C&D road test on a restored-down-to-the-correct-tires RS package equipped 1967 Z/28. 3271 lbs