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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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If I'm not mistaken wasn't the LS3 designed with AFM and the vette people actually made enough noise that GM didn't offer it in the vette.
That's what I heard.
Of course, I'm not GM, so I don't know exactly why they didn't put it in there, but that's the 'rumor' I heard. The 'vette folks were worried about sound, and performance. They didn't want AFM.
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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I have.....a Honda Pilot, i dunno how you can really compare the two though Anywayz, the 4 cyl engine shut downs to 3 cyls when you maintain a crusing speed over 45 mph after about 7-8 seconds....Little to no hesitation in cylinder reactivation when u get back on the gas.......
The Pilot is a V6. The two wheel drive models have VCM (variable cylinder management aka mds/dod), the 4WD don't. Same thing with the Odyssey (EX-L's), and the V6 08 Accords (auto only). Goes from V6 to I3 (from what i remember, use to work at a honda dealership).
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TrickStang37
The Pilot is a V6. The two wheel drive models have VCM (variable cylinder management aka mds/dod), the 4WD don't. Same thing with the Odyssey (EX-L's), and the V6 08 Accords (auto only). Goes from V6 to I3 (from what i remember, use to work at a honda dealership).
It shuts off a whole bank at a time? Aren't there 'balancing' issues? (all the power coming from one side, etc)
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Has anyone here driven a vehicle with DOD?
My Charger Daytona has it. the ONLY way you can tell is when I had aftermarket exhaust on it. It changed the sound and got more drony when it cut down from 8 to 4. But then I put the stock exhaust back on and I can't tell at all when it changes.

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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragoneye
It shuts off a whole bank at a time? Aren't there 'balancing' issues? (all the power coming from one side, etc)
No there isnt. They have some special (expensive) liquid filled motormounts that activate and balance out the vibrations. They also have a sound that goes through the speakers (kind of like a negative sound) to cancel out the noise of the VCM (DOD) activating, otherwise it would be audible.
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TrickStang37
No there isnt. They have some special (expensive) liquid filled motormounts that activate and balance out the vibrations. They also have a sound that goes through the speakers (kind of like a negative sound) to cancel out the noise of the VCM (DOD) activating, otherwise it would be audible.
That's crazy! Thanks
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TrickStang37
The Pilot is a V6. The two wheel drive models have VCM (variable cylinder management aka mds/dod), the 4WD don't. Same thing with the Odyssey (EX-L's), and the V6 08 Accords (auto only). Goes from V6 to I3 (from what i remember, use to work at a honda dealership).
Hmmmmmm........after further review, you are correct sir .......Pilot is a V6 after all. Dude at Enterpise lied to me!!!! Probably explains why the gas mileage wasnt anything spectacular when i rented it. But then again i was mostly doing city driving when I had it.
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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The 2008 Accord V6 (with the auto) actually takes this one step further and has both V4 and I-3 modes depending on engine load.
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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im not buying anything that sucks premium fuel...anybody who thinks that can shove it right up there bass.....$3.70 gallon for premium..no way...i dont care if gm has to put a windmill on the engine...just make sure it is no premium fuel only engine or im going to the other guys
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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m not buying anything that sucks premium fuel...anybody who thinks that can shove it right up there bass.....$3.70 gallon for premium..no way...i dont care if gm has to put a windmill on the engine...just make sure it is no premium fuel only engine or im going to the other guys
You think that GM and the enthusiast community is here to capitulate to you and the demands of your teenage daughter?

I think you need to look into the V6 option.

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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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my words..its how i feel..if you want camaro around for more then 2 years..you better hope they sell a boat load of 4 and 6 cylinders cars...for me personally..i want the biggest kick *** motor i can get...but i am one of very few..if you believe the gear heads are a large enuff group to support the camaro your wrong...the camaro might make a few years with us...with others (ie grocery getter moms) it has a chance to hang on..yeah i want 4 cyclinder in the camaro...only way to ensure the car lasts more then a few years ($4 gallon gas can change a lot of things)
Old Mar 28, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Black5thgen
If I'm not mistaken wasn't the LS3 designed with AFM and the vette people actually made enough noise that GM didn't offer it in the vette.

At the risk of my coming across as "Know it all", that's not the case.

People complaining about the sound (or lack of) wasn't the issue. It didn't come out due to engineering/development issues. Wish I could find something "official" to link to, but I can't. If somebody else can find it (or to prove me wrong) please post.

All I can find is posts from Corvette boards from dealers explaining what was & wasn't new for the 2008's before the model year was released.

And also a story of the C6R dropping out of Le Mans in '07 due to the driveshaft shredding which was blamed on the DOD/AFM (whatever you want to call it) they thought they could use to decrease fuel stops.
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