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Old 01-16-2008, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
I was reading somewhere that the LSA is pretty much maxed out at 550 hp, with it's steel rods and hyperurectic pistons. Crank it up much more than that, and you'll need a shovel and a magnet to pick up the pieces.

The LS9, as you all remember, has titanium rods and forged pistons.
Which is why GM would be crazy to put an LSA in the Camaro. Perhaps something in between the LSA and LS9 is required.
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A pair of six-speed transmissions is offered with the LSA: A new, Tremec TR6060 six-speed manual with a dual-disc clutch; and a Hydra-Matic 6L90 six-speed automatic with paddle-shift control
YES!!

I would be VERY interested to see what the drag test and auto-x results are with the auto tranny and paddle shifters.
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Old 01-16-2008, 11:31 AM
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The reason they went hypereutectic was probably to keep people from upping the boost and blowing their motor. Cost probably wasn't the biggest concern. They probably wanted to keep the motors reliable. Once its off warranty I'm sure a lot of people looking to go for higher boost will switch pistons.
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Originally Posted by Gripenfelter
The reason they went hypereutectic was probably to keep people from upping the boost and blowing their motor.
People are still going to up the boost. Hypereutectic pistons are a way to guarantee that they blow their motor.
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Even with modest boost levels, over 500hp is really pushing Hyperutectics. We used to build motors with'em and usually went forged with anything north of 450Hp...that is if you want reliability.
Maybe they're processing has improved a lot??
Heat coatings might help'em a little...
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
I don't think they dropped the ball - I mean WTF, it's FIVEHUNDREDFIFTYHORSEPOWER!!!!!
yea and 4.6L cobras and 5.4L gt500's are making 700+ rwhp on stock short blocks in street trim. there are only 2 people that buy a supercharged muscle car. people who leave them stock and people looking to mod the crap out of them.(willing to bet the mod part is larger) the purpose of spending the extra 10 grand on it is to make way more hp if you wish. its all in the details and unfortunately gm doesnt know what details are. caddy is about being quiet. but they better not make a time bomb bottom end if they plan on boosting a camaro, ford guys will just laugh at us when we all blow up from trying to compete with them.
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Originally Posted by blue 79 Z/28
yea and 4.6L cobras and 5.4L gt500's are making 700+ rwhp on stock short blocks in street trim. there are only 2 people that buy a supercharged muscle car. people who leave them stock and people looking to mod the crap out of them.(willing to bet the mod part is larger) the purpose of spending the extra 10 grand on it is to make way more hp if you wish. its all in the details and unfortunately gm doesnt know what details are. caddy is about being quiet. but they better not make a time bomb bottom end if they plan on boosting a camaro, ford guys will just laugh at us when we all blow up from trying to compete with them.

Are those 700 horse behemouths fast....or do they struggle to get into the elevens? And if they go any faster than that, how many runs before they grenade drivelines.

Just like fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life....neither is huge weight plus huge power. The whole thing just bores me.....
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Are those 700 horse behemouths fast....or do they struggle to get into the elevens? And if they go any faster than that, how many runs before they grenade drivelines.

Just like fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life....neither is huge weight plus huge power. The whole thing just bores me.....
Those 700 horse bahemouths are fast. The drivelines seem to hold up fine, but anything with 700+ hp is going to have driveline issues when abused. Nothing is truely bulletproof.

As for weight, there isnt all that much that can be done with rising standards and keeping prices competetive.
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Originally Posted by blue 79 Z/28
there are only 2 people that buy a supercharged muscle car. people who leave them stock and people looking to mod the crap out of them.(willing to bet the mod part is larger)
i'm willing to bet that most people who get the CTS-V will be plenty happy with the power it produces out of the box
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life....
Great movie!
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Originally Posted by FS3800
i'm willing to bet that most people who get the CTS-V will be plenty happy with the power it produces out of the box
prolly right, but a camaro, i doubt. especially with all the competition with fords proven powerplants
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Old 01-19-2008, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Are those 700 horse behemouths fast....or do they struggle to get into the elevens? And if they go any faster than that, how many runs before they grenade drivelines.

Just like fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life....neither is huge weight plus huge power. The whole thing just bores me.....
next time you see a 03-04 KB charged cobra on the road, you better have drag radials, a full bolt on LS1, and a 200 shot to stay with it....
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Originally Posted by blue 79 Z/28
yea and 4.6L cobras and 5.4L gt500's are making 700+ rwhp on stock short blocks in street trim. there are only 2 people that buy a supercharged muscle car. people who leave them stock and people looking to mod the crap out of them.(willing to bet the mod part is larger) the purpose of spending the extra 10 grand on it is to make way more hp if you wish. its all in the details and unfortunately gm doesnt know what details are. caddy is about being quiet. but they better not make a time bomb bottom end if they plan on boosting a camaro, ford guys will just laugh at us when we all blow up from trying to compete with them.

I would bet large amounts of money against your bet. There will be far more owners who leave their CTS-Vs alone then mod them.
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
Great movie!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that reference!!
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