Comically easy.

1. You have no proof the new Camaro will end up the same curb weight as the rumored Zeta sedans. Do you know the curb weight of ANY unreleased Zeta car? No? Didn't think so.

2. "A quarter ton?" Again, you have no clue about the weights, nor do you seem to have a realistic grasp of the large number of features and constraints that dictate the weights of roomy modern cars, some of which were listed herein by FBF.

 

One of the disciples said on this very site to "think G8 GT" when thinking about the Camaro's weight. Thinking G8 GT weight gives us a 3900 pound (plus?) V8 Camaro. Again, right from the horse's mouth.

If the rumors are indeed true, Ford is going to release a 3500 pound Mustang GT in roughly 2 years which also happens to have LS3-comparable power. Seems they may have found a way to balance creature comfort demands with power and safety....

 

1) Yes.

2) Oh, I have much more than a clue.

 

I could be way off base here, but maybe when they said, "think G8 GT", they assumed the person they were talking to would figure out that the dimensions of a G8 GT and the Camaro are not the same, and hence the change in weight could be generally comensurate with the change in size...

same general density and less volume = less mass?

06 Camaro Coupe Concept
? lbs
186.2"L x 79.6"W x 53"H = 454 CUFT

G8 GT 6.0 L76
3995 lbs
196.1"L x 74.8"W x 57.7"H = 489 CUFT

granted those aren't the actual volumes, but it can be used as a ratio to approximate the size difference.

you get:
454*3995/489=3709 lb camaro with a L76 size engine

I could live with 3700 considering an independent rear suspension. Is the 3500 lb Mustang going to have an independent rear suspension as well?

3885 lb G8 base V6 with spare tire
3995 lb G8 L76 with tire inflation kit

knock the camaro down to a V6 and maybe you're talking 3600 lb +/-, with a spare tire...?

 

Interesting take on this and I for one hope it's true. I thought I read someplace on this site that the Camaro V6 was rumored to be in the 3600 range. So maybe your math has some merit.
I could live with the V8 Camaro in the 3700 range. It's just something about seing 4000lbs and thinking OMG the Camaro is 2 tons and outweighs Chevy's full size Impala SS V8 (3711) that causes me to Apples to oranges I know but when was the last time in the history of both cars that the Camaro weighed more?
But when the car is available I'll give it much more than a kick on the tires and I'll probably buy one as only a very nice 4th Gen convert or a used LS3 powered Vette would sway me away.

 

Make me wonder "how" different. It "could" be a lighter platform in this version.

 

No, maybe a 3550-3600 pound Mustang or a 3650-3700 lbs Mustang might (the latter being a live axle M6 4v 5.0 car)

 

So... I'm right. You are lacking FACTUAL PROOF. Hearsay? From a "disciple here?" Not facts. Rumoring about the next Mustang? Again, not facts. Show me the public specs.

 

So this is what you're holding onto. No public official figure has been released, of course. But we all know the disciples got the goods on the car at Milford a few weeks ago. Where have you been?

I can't, yet. Then again, I could have told you the same thing when all the rumors and "keep the faith" talk was flying around a few years ago regarding the Camaro. You sure can pick your spots when it comes to demanding proof.

 

Okay, dudes. I think we know where everyone stands on this, no need to beat each other up over it like we have in a lot of other threads. I think this was a pretty interesting thread/poll so I hope we can get back to that. Just don't want it to go south. Let's keep it cool.

 

Can I give you some advice, Big?

At this point, if you want a credible defensive strategy on this, just say that it doesn't matter to you how much it weighs.

 

Cost. I don't give a crap how much it weighs, as long as it gets 'good' gas mileage. I give a big crap about how much it would cost though; hence why I don't own a Lambo (or even an F-body )

 

I'm going to follow Jason's advice and chill out. I do appreciate your hosting this poll Charlie, and also am grateful you framed it in a neutral fashion (ie, no bias in the original question).

As for the notion of a defensive strategy? I have none, and need none. Because like Koz, I care not about the Camaro's weight. Cost though, that's another story.

 

Hmmm. I see the dichotomy here.

 

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