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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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The Mustang GT weighs 3450-3550lbs.

The only Mustang to weigh more is the very limited production GT500, which is rumored to weigh around 3800lbs.

As the Camaro is expected to compete with the Mustang GT, that is the weight you should use for comparison.
Old Jan 23, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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The SRT8 300 on the first run pulled a 1.65 60' which was impressive on the stock goodyear f-1's, the magnum we ran drag radial's for the first run and the 4 season Goodyear RSA's on the second run with 22 psi
Well as for the Chrysler 300 and Charger arguements I did 't need to read any more than this to see they are completely full of BS! I don't think Goodyear F1's soaked in VHT could pull under a 1.90 60ft.
Old Jan 24, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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i've seen a few cars on the track doing that
Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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GM wont bring back the Camaro only to destroy its icon, Corvette. Making it 'safer' will be a selling point for many buyers. Many people are turned off from the Corvette for that reason. It will also compliment the Corvettes light weight, and of course, speed.

It's like someone said, DCX didn't plan on building a > 4000lb car.
Old Jan 27, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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I just got back from seeing the Challeneger at the washington auto show. That thing is nice! Its soo much better than the pictures. The tires were huge too. If I were a Chrysler fan, or even if I didnt want the Camaro so bad that car would be a no brainer!
Old Jan 28, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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A few things from the last few post. Someone said they new GT500 was at 3800 pounds but remember a vert weights more than a hard top to start with so a new camaro non vert that is may be around 3500 pounds I hope.
And about the F1 tires I know a 1.90 60ft is the best time for me on them as most people average around a 2.00 or worse and also depends on track prep.
I hope the car is not over 3500 pounds as my 2001 SS vert and it being a vert was under that.
Old Jan 29, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike2001SS
A few things from the last few post. Someone said they new GT500 was at 3800 pounds but remember a vert weights more than a hard top to start with so a new camaro non vert that is may be around 3500 pounds I hope.
And about the F1 tires I know a 1.90 60ft is the best time for me on them as most people average around a 2.00 or worse and also depends on track prep.
I hope the car is not over 3500 pounds as my 2001 SS vert and it being a vert was under that.
The 3,800 + lbs is for the GT500 coupe. The convertible is over two tons. The blown, intercooled, 4 valve, iron, 5.4, with it's associated driveline changes, add 300 lbs over the GT's powertrain.

And if we get a Camaro under 3,500 lbs...that would be great....I'm not holding my breathe though.
Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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The 3,800 + lbs is for the GT500 coupe. The convertible is over two tons. The blown, intercooled, 4 valve, iron, 5.4, with it's associated driveline changes, add 300 lbs over the GT's powertrain.

And if we get a Camaro under 3,500 lbs...that would be great....I'm not holding my breathe though.
I don't have any info one way or the other on Ford or Dodge weight I just knew a vert did weigh more. I think this car will weigh more because not only the new wheel base but not having a live axle and other things, but still don't seeing it getting as heavy as some seem to think. Yes I do think it will weigh more I hope not say 500 lbs more.
Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
The 3,800 + lbs is for the GT500 coupe. The convertible is over two tons. The blown, intercooled, 4 valve, iron, 5.4, with it's associated driveline changes, add 300 lbs over the GT's powertrain.

And if we get a Camaro under 3,500 lbs...that would be great....I'm not holding my breathe though.
I don't have any info one way or the other on Ford or Dodge weight I just knew a vert did weigh more. I think this car will weigh more because not only the new wheel base but not having a live axle and other things, but still don't seeing it getting as heavy as some seem to think. Yes I do think it will weigh more I hope not say 500 lbs more.
Old Jan 29, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike2001SS
I don't have any info one way or the other on Ford or Dodge weight I just knew a vert did weigh more. I think this car will weigh more because not only the new wheel base but not having a live axle and other things, but still don't seeing it getting as heavy as some seem to think. Yes I do think it will weigh more I hope not say 500 lbs more.
Well....I'm giving you the Mustang info, and the Challenger info is the title of the thread.

Also, Camaro's "new wheelbase" has nothing to do with any weight gain. The fact that the architecture used, will be the basis for large sedans, station wagons, and even small trucks does.

The fact that the Camaro concept is wider than the humongous Challenger should tell you something.
Old Jan 29, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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isn't the 5th gen camaro gonna be pretty similar to the current gto in architecture? the gto isn't light at all. GTO weighs 3790 and the charger srt-8 weighs 4280. the charger beat the gto pretty easily 4.9/13.3 vs 5.3/13.7. id be willing to bet that a 5th gen camaro would probably loose to a 6.1 hemi equipped challenger.

gm has never been too good about making vehicles light so i figure we can expect the camaro to weigh about the same or perhaps maybe just a little less than the current gto. no way itll weigh as little as a mustang.
Old Jan 30, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by roosterjuicer
isn't the 5th gen camaro gonna be pretty similar to the current gto in architecture? the gto isn't light at all. GTO weighs 3790 and the charger srt-8 weighs 4280. the charger beat the gto pretty easily 4.9/13.3 vs 5.3/13.7. id be willing to bet that a 5th gen camaro would probably loose to a 6.1 hemi equipped challenger.

gm has never been too good about making vehicles light so i figure we can expect the camaro to weigh about the same or perhaps maybe just a little less than the current gto. no way itll weigh as little as a mustang.
Lots of speculation here and I think you have the GTO and the Charger SRT-8 times mixed up. I could be wrong but most magazines have 400 hp 05 GTO's in the 13.3 range and the Charger SRT-8 in the 13.7 range. Not that it matters what the mags say. Give me a 6 speed stock 05/06 GTO and a stock Charger SRT-8 and I'll take it 10 out of 10 times.

Challenger concept vs. Camaro concept (thats all we have now) I think its a good race that would come down to driver.

As for the weight the Camaro is to have new platform not shared with the current GTO. Will there be lots in common, yes. But dont think that the two will weigh the same. Also the new Mustang isn't light either. Its heavier than the last SN-95's and those were heavier than the Foxbodys and the 4th Gen Camaro's. So when you say the Camaro won't be as light as the Mustang it certainly wouldn't be very hard to be so. You can bet that when the Camaro rolls it will probably weigh in at 3600 just like the GT Mustang, and lighter than the GTO. Where will the Challenger weigh in at is anyones idea. Because it shares an already heavy platform with the Magnum and 300C with a heavy Hemi I have a feeling it will the in the GTO range, heavier than the other two.
Old Jan 30, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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Its heavier than the last SN-95's and those were heavier than the Foxbodys and the 4th Gen Camaro's.
The 94-98 SN-95s were about as heavy as the 4th gens were. The 99-04 SN-95s were about 200lbs lighter than the 4th gen and the older SN-95s in GT trim, although the 99/01 Cobra weighed in about as much as an F-Body. The 03/04 Cobras were/are pretty heavy, although apparently the defintion of heavy is being changed. Looks like a car I used to think was heavy is going to be considered a middleweight now.


Where will the Challenger weigh in at is anyones idea.
If the concept is any indication, it will be around 4160lbs. The concept seems pretty close to production ready to me, so I would say that it is a pretty good indication of what to expect.
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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RussStang,

I did some looking on the net about vehicle weights Mustang vs. Camaro and it all shakes out about the same. My 02 Z weighed in at 3400 and the SS was like 3460. Both with a little gas. The net had them at 3450 and 3525 respectively, about the same for the real world. I was curious about the 99-04 SN95's that you mentioned were 200 lbs lighter than the other SN95's and 4th Gen F-cars. I had not heard about that and wanted to see if I could find it. I didn't. Yet if anything the weight of the Mustang and Camaro seemed to rise almost yearly from 93 (Camaro) and 94 (Mustang) Then the new 05 Mustang is sitting over 3600.

Either way cars are getting heavier and I agree what used to be heavy is now middleweight. Can you imagine the fuel economy savings if most cars could drop 200 lbs and get back to the early 90's weights.

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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:21 AM
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http://www.modernracer.com/mustanggt.html

http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicl.../russ9920.html

http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/99fordmustanggt.html

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...ht=curb+weight
Bottom of this link has a bunch of guys that have weighed their own cars, and gotten the numbers I speak of.

I used to own a 2001 GT, so I know a pretty healthy amount of info on them. The 99-04 GTs really were much superior to the 96-98 GTs. Not that a 99-04 GT is a monster or anything, but they made 35/45 more HP depending on the year, and weighed in several hundred pounds less then their weaker counterparts.


Until there is some radically change in the availability of a wider ranger of lighter building materials, cars are going to keep getting heavier and heavier. I really hate this trend, but there seems to be no way around it.



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