That's my line of thought, but so many seem to think it's going to be the LS3. Honestly, I don't care, whichever is cheaper.

 

Is the Camaro going to get 3 V8's? LS8, LS3, L76? If one engine has to go I'd rather it be the L76. And now there is talk of a Turbo V6 and hybrid for the Camaro. So thats a 4th V8 setup and a 400HP TT V6.

How much more can an LS3 cost to build anyone have create prices?

 

Yep. V8 Camaros have always been the pricey ones. Plus - Camaro has been off the market for 8 years. Eight years in which new car prices have naturally followed inflation. I priced a new Mustang GT Premium coupe at edmunds.com, pretty loaded with nav, Shaker stereo, chrome wheels, etc.. MSRP $38,500

 

$29,000 in 2002 is $35,666 in 2009 assuming the price goes up 3% every year. $25,000 2002 would be $30,746 in 2009 with that same 3%

So if those were the base prices for the Z28 and SS today we should expect $30,000 for the L76 and $35,000 for the LS3. Don't forget a 2010 Camaro would have more base options and things like bigger rims, brakes, etc...

 

The difference now, is that I don't believe GM will make the marketing decision to 'push' the V8 cars.

Previously, the V6 cars were loss leaders - now they'll be the main event.

What will the V8's highway mpg be rated at? 24 mpg? 25mpg?
What if by '10/'11 GM needs a corporate average of 29 or 30? Heck, I don't even think the V6's will get that.

So in this scenario, Camaro will not aid GM in it's CAFE efforts. I think it only makes sense for GM to try and limit Camaro's adverse effects on the corporate average. It would be foolhardy not to.

 

hmm i would hope around 30 highway mpg.. considerin the 6spd 4thgens were rated at 27 or 28 depending on the year.. it better not be 25.. cause that would be pathetic..

 

I haven't been seeing a whole lot of good news lately. 70's all over again with regulations killing the HP wars. I never expected the V8 to come in at 25, and have been planning for a 38-40k Camaro for the last year so this isn't much of a shock.

 

The revised EPA estimates on the car you speak of is 17/26. The new camaro will have more HP and you want more fuel economy?

I'm *hoping* the '10 Camaro will get 17/25-ish for the V-8.

Edit:

Hmmmmmmmmm, the new G8 is rated at 15/24...

The G8 V6 is 17/25

 

I think 30 on the highway would be nice, but it will take some work with the new EPA ratings. With a 6 speed manual, a 1995 LT1 is 15/24 under the new ratings and a 2002 LS1 is 17/26.

The G8 is rated 15/24 with V8 and 17/25 with V6. The Cadillac CTS with the DI 3.6 is rated at 16/25 for the manual.

 

And with the more limited production and increased premium on the V8, the Camaro is becoming more of a Challenger competitor than Mustang competitor. Perhaps it will be higher volume than Challenger, but this seems like a natural concession given the circumstances.

 

I'm no expert but if the aero work is done correctly and you have a nice automatic with proper 5th and 6th gear selections, I don't really understand how you couldn't get in the upper 20s on the highway.

 

If GM puts a high geared rear end in the car, then yeah, it's probably possible... but it's also a camaro. It's hard to find that balance where the car will have competitive 0-60 times, etc. and still have good fuel economy. I'm sure the camaro could easily be geared for 30mpg highway, but it will be a complete dog and uncompetitive (the same could probably even be said for the *boring* passenger cars, but no one wants to give up the performance numbers and look slow or "weak" when compared to competitors). On the other end of the spectrum, GM could say screw fuel mileage and drop a low rear in the car and have *lower* 0-60 and 1/4 miles times.

 

You're not alone with that. I assumed the same thing.

 

You mean as aero as the MUCH lighter Corvette, which gets 16/26?

 

Horsepower wars took a nosedive when insurence started slapping surcharges on the around 1970, and the bulk of the public (the large post-WWII babies) outgrew "youth-oriented" vehicles and wanted more luxury.

They moved out of GTOs, Chevelle SSs, and Road Runners into Grand Prixs, Monte Carlos, and Cordobas. All which saw a sales explosion even before Fed-Regs kicked in during the 70s.