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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:40 AM
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anyone really read the milage ratings on the stickers? V6 cars MIGHT get 1 mpg more than the V8 counterpart in a particular model. I really don't see this as a valid point to a real car enthusiest. The big difference between the Camaro V8 and V6 will be insurance to cover each, and the fact that you have to pay for PREMIUM gas for the V8 as opposed to the "cheap" stuff for the V6. That being said, I will gladly buy the V8 ONLY. I'm used to V8's and won't settle for less unless they offer a wicked fast V6 Turbo that would actually be faster than the V8. (ala Grand National). But I don't see that happening.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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My 95 Z/28 is now my "second" car. (My 02 Tahoe is my "daily driver".) I have only ever filled it with premium unleaded. I filled it this Saturday and it cost me $3.739/gal. By this summer I expect premium to be north of $4/gal. I will still continue to fill it.

FWIW, I currently own 4 vehicles. All four are Chevy V8s.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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For those of you buying V8's....

Nah, this is a non-issue. One: Because GM's V8's get amazing mileage. Two: they get that mileage with insane power numbers (relative to mileage), and Three: I want a V8.

Really is as simple as that for me, gas or no gas; which brings me to my next point. I won't be buying a V8 Camaro unless said V8 can run on E85. (base V8).......bound to happen, it's just a matter of 'when'. If it's from launch...Wonderful!!! If I have to wait a few years, so be it.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragoneye
For those of you buying V8's....

Nah, this is a non-issue. One: Because GM's V8's get amazing mileage. Two: they get that mileage with insane power numbers (relative to mileage), and Three: I want a V8.

Really is as simple as that for me, gas or no gas; which brings me to my next point. I won't be buying a V8 Camaro unless said V8 can run on E85. (base V8).......bound to happen, it's just a matter of 'when'. If it's from launch...Wonderful!!! If I have to wait a few years, so be it.

Even if it doesnt come that way from GM you can easily convert it to E85 later.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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E85 is the fuel for the next generation V8s. i am tired of putting my money in the pockets of middle eastern countries. i hope that the government will give aid to the american farmers to grow the corn that we need for the future. e85 will save the v8 performance.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tricked-Out-Toy
Even if it doesnt come that way from GM you can easily convert it to E85 later.
You're right of course...but seeing as how I'm gonna buy it a few years AFTER launch...E85 should be implimented by then

Originally Posted by texas94z
E85 is the fuel for the next generation V8s. i am tired of putting my money in the pockets of middle eastern countries. i hope that the government will give aid to the american farmers to grow the corn that we need for the future. e85 will save the v8 performance.
Don't wanna turn this into an ethanol thread, so this will be the last I speak of it - but Corn ain't gonna do it. Period. Cellulosic, and Coskata's method WILL.
And you're darn right about the V8 fuel of the future thing.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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E85 is great, but we can't grow enough to get out of the problem. I wish they would have acted faster though.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by texas94z
E85 is the fuel for the next generation V8s. i am tired of putting my money in the pockets of middle eastern countries. i hope that the government will give aid to the american farmers to grow the corn that we need for the future. e85 will save the v8 performance.
We don't have enough land to grow enough corn (or switchgrass) to replace foreign oil.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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yes, i'll be buying mine in V8 trim no matter what. the price of gas is currently 1.11$/Liter in Montreal

3.78 Liters = 1 Gallon
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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I will definitely get a V-8! But, I'm not a fan of high gas prices..
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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v8 hybrid ftmfw!
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by christianjax
anyone really read the milage ratings on the stickers? V6 cars MIGHT get 1 mpg more than the V8 counterpart in a particular model. I really don't see this as a valid point to a real car enthusiest. The big difference between the Camaro V8 and V6 will be insurance to cover each, and the fact that you have to pay for PREMIUM gas for the V8 as opposed to the "cheap" stuff for the V6. That being said, I will gladly buy the V8 ONLY. I'm used to V8's and won't settle for less unless they offer a wicked fast V6 Turbo that would actually be faster than the V8. (ala Grand National). But I don't see that happening.
That is just not right. I have owned both and the V6 automatic tops the mileage of the V8 manual, and is substantially greater in combined driving then the V8 automatic. Additionally, insurance for the V8 is only a couple of dollars (and when I say that I really mean like 2 or 3 dollars per 6 months) more than the V6 was. The insurance for the V8 cars was really only substantially different if you were under 25.

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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by cmg06s
yeah I don't have any complaints, I can eat $6 every week thats life, things get more expensive, not cheaper, and beyond that what would you like me to do about it? not buy gas? theres nothing anyone can do about it, this conversation is stupid, if someone is basing thier decision to buy or not to buy on gas price, they shouldn't be on a camaro "enthusiasts" board
I think it's only natural and logical for any person that wants to, to weigh their options on what they should do, based on their income. The eletist attitude that others should just quit thinking about buying a camaro is not going to help the sales of the camaro. But then I do realize some people only think of themselves and what they want, and not the future of the camaro.

I also think that discussing our concerns on mpg reflects the thoughts from many people, and that in turn may affect how our camaros are built in the future. Our opinions do matter, IMHO.

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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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I think many of you have hit on a very important point: GM's V8s get amazing fuel economy for their power. Some people still have it in their minds that V8 = a 12 mpg 1971 Cadillac Fleetwood with the 500 ci 8.2 liter and a 4 bbl carburator.

Modern engine design is nothing short of amzing. I held two camshafts in my hands once - in one hand was the partially missing because it had cracked cast iron camshaft from a late 1970's Chrysler 318. In my other hand was a complete aluminum high performance camshaft for a GM 350 small block. The aluminum cam felt as light as a feather compared to the old iron cam.

My point? ALL the parts of modern engines are lighter. Lighter, tighter tollerances, vast improvments in air and fuel delivery. A modern day V8 is certainly far more efficient than old ones. Add that to transmissions with more gears and cars with better aerodynamics and there should be no reason V8 engines scare anyone fuel wise today.
Old Mar 9, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fastball
I think many of you have hit on a very important point: GM's V8s get amazing fuel economy for their power. Some people still have it in their minds that V8 = a 12 mpg 1971 Cadillac Fleetwood with the 500 ci 8.2 liter and a 4 bbl carburator.

Modern engine design is nothing short of amzing. I held two camshafts in my hands once - in one hand was the partially missing because it had cracked cast iron camshaft from a late 1970's Chrysler 318. In my other hand was a complete aluminum high performance camshaft for a GM 350 small block. The aluminum cam felt as light as a feather compared to the old iron cam.

My point? ALL the parts of modern engines are lighter. Lighter, tighter tollerances, vast improvments in air and fuel delivery. A modern day V8 is certainly far more efficient than old ones. Add that to transmissions with more gears and cars with better aerodynamics and there should be no reason V8 engines scare anyone fuel wise today.
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