Q for Scott: GM's release date for official camaro pics / vids / media?
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I would be that idiot. And yes, I have had a thousand down on the car for months. I contacted Chuck at Maroone chevy who has worked there over a decade and sold me my 94, my 95, my 02, my equinox, my dads Tahoe, his Vettes and his Camaro's. We have bought lots of cars from him. Gave him the money, as did my father on good faith. When they order their first lot and options are available, he said we will order everything up. I am behind a few people that work there, and some other customers that beat me to it. As it turns out, my father will be the only one getting one because I am waiting for the big motor to come out. Because I don't want my new car to feel like a slug next to my old car.
I may contact a local dealer who's taking $500 deposits myself.
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I would be that idiot. And yes, I have had a thousand down on the car for months. I contacted Chuck at Maroone chevy who has worked there over a decade and sold me my 94, my 95, my 02, my equinox, my dads Tahoe, his Vettes and his Camaro's. We have bought lots of cars from him. Gave him the money, as did my father on good faith. When they order their first lot and options are available, he said we will order everything up. I am behind a few people that work there, and some other customers that beat me to it. As it turns out, my father will be the only one getting one because I am waiting for the big motor to come out. Because I don't want my new car to feel like a slug next to my old car.
Money was given to "Chuck" in the hope that he will sell one of the 1st ones that come on the lot to you... assuming he's still there.
My son now works at a pretty sizable Chrysler dealership that also is tied with an equally large Dodge dealership over in Pheonix. They are priming up for an equally big introduction, the Dodge Challenger.
Some of the junior salespeople have 6 people on the list waiting for the car. Some of the more senior people, even more. At least a few of dozen sales people minimum at the dealership.
Everyone's name goes on the list in order. At the same time, there are those people gullible enough to throw money to get on this list to ensure they get one of the first models which isn't even necessary.
High intrest cars like the Challenger (the current Mustang experienced this when it first came out and no doubt the Camaro will as well) are going to be priced high by the dealership initially. This is where putting money to get on the list is pretty pointless: The cars will go for a certain, non-negotible amount, and whoever is willing to pay the price gets the car. Even employee & family discounts are going to be over sticker. Even if the car sits on the showroom, it serves to create showroom traffic.
I'm not sure what you mean about giving away money on "Good Faith". Do you expect a discount? Do you expect this money to be deducted from the dealer markup? Does giving away this money a year before any options or ordering information is available for dealers ensure you are are a list?
I suspect you put an actual "deposit" or "Pre-order" on the vehicles you mentioned as your previous experience. But these vehicles you mentioned were either already in production or were mainstream vehicles. I suspect order information was already available. Even so, I don't believe you ever ordered a vehicle a year and a half in advance before.
Don't get me wrong, if you want to walk into a showroom tomorrow and place an order on a 2011 C7 Corvette "On good faith", you won't find anyone not willing to take your cash and place you on a so-called "List" and use your money as a no-intrest loan for the next 4 years. But you still haven't bought a guarantee that you'll have the first C7 Corvette (or in this case, Camaro) sold by the dealership, let alone the 1st one in your area.
So, being that anyone with internet access can brag about having a deposit on a 5th gen Camaro regardless as to if they actually do, outside of being able to say you gave someone free money for the next year and a half to get an imaginary position on a dealership list (which is in reality kept by each individual sales person), the point is exactly what??
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High intrest cars like the Challenger (the current Mustang experienced this when it first came out and no doubt the Camaro will as well) are going to be priced high by the dealership initially. This is where putting money to get on the list is pretty pointless: The cars will go for a certain, non-negotible amount, and whoever is willing to pay the price gets the car. Even employee & family discounts are going to be over sticker. Even if the car sits on the showroom, it serves to create showroom traffic.
So, while I agree a lot will probably markup the Camaro, not all will. Since the dealership has assured me the deposit is fully refundable, you get to order the Camaro to your specs, and they limit price to MSRP, I believe leaving a measly $500 deposit to insure I don't have to wait any longer due to demand and markup is worth the few bucks they may get in interest on my $500. (Damn, talk about a run on sentence! LOL)
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In other words, you do NOT have one preordered.
Money was given to "Chuck" in the hope that he will sell one of the 1st ones that come on the lot to you... assuming he's still there.
My son now works at a pretty sizable Chrysler dealership that also is tied with an equally large Dodge dealership over in Pheonix. They are priming up for an equally big introduction, the Dodge Challenger.
Some of the junior salespeople have 6 people on the list waiting for the car. Some of the more senior people, even more. At least a few of dozen sales people minimum at the dealership.
Everyone's name goes on the list in order. At the same time, there are those people gullible enough to throw money to get on this list to ensure they get one of the first models which isn't even necessary.
High intrest cars like the Challenger (the current Mustang experienced this when it first came out and no doubt the Camaro will as well) are going to be priced high by the dealership initially. This is where putting money to get on the list is pretty pointless: The cars will go for a certain, non-negotible amount, and whoever is willing to pay the price gets the car. Even employee & family discounts are going to be over sticker. Even if the car sits on the showroom, it serves to create showroom traffic.
I'm not sure what you mean about giving away money on "Good Faith". Do you expect a discount? Do you expect this money to be deducted from the dealer markup? Does giving away this money a year before any options or ordering information is available for dealers ensure you are are a list?
I suspect you put an actual "deposit" or "Pre-order" on the vehicles you mentioned as your previous experience. But these vehicles you mentioned were either already in production or were mainstream vehicles. I suspect order information was already available. Even so, I don't believe you ever ordered a vehicle a year and a half in advance before.
Don't get me wrong, if you want to walk into a showroom tomorrow and place an order on a 2011 C7 Corvette "On good faith", you won't find anyone not willing to take your cash and place you on a so-called "List" and use your money as a no-intrest loan for the next 4 years. But you still haven't bought a guarantee that you'll have the first C7 Corvette (or in this case, Camaro) sold by the dealership, let alone the 1st one in your area.
So, being that anyone with internet access can brag about having a deposit on a 5th gen Camaro regardless as to if they actually do, outside of being able to say you gave someone free money for the next year and a half to get an imaginary position on a dealership list (which is in reality kept by each individual sales person), the point is exactly what??
Money was given to "Chuck" in the hope that he will sell one of the 1st ones that come on the lot to you... assuming he's still there.
My son now works at a pretty sizable Chrysler dealership that also is tied with an equally large Dodge dealership over in Pheonix. They are priming up for an equally big introduction, the Dodge Challenger.
Some of the junior salespeople have 6 people on the list waiting for the car. Some of the more senior people, even more. At least a few of dozen sales people minimum at the dealership.
Everyone's name goes on the list in order. At the same time, there are those people gullible enough to throw money to get on this list to ensure they get one of the first models which isn't even necessary.
High intrest cars like the Challenger (the current Mustang experienced this when it first came out and no doubt the Camaro will as well) are going to be priced high by the dealership initially. This is where putting money to get on the list is pretty pointless: The cars will go for a certain, non-negotible amount, and whoever is willing to pay the price gets the car. Even employee & family discounts are going to be over sticker. Even if the car sits on the showroom, it serves to create showroom traffic.
I'm not sure what you mean about giving away money on "Good Faith". Do you expect a discount? Do you expect this money to be deducted from the dealer markup? Does giving away this money a year before any options or ordering information is available for dealers ensure you are are a list?
I suspect you put an actual "deposit" or "Pre-order" on the vehicles you mentioned as your previous experience. But these vehicles you mentioned were either already in production or were mainstream vehicles. I suspect order information was already available. Even so, I don't believe you ever ordered a vehicle a year and a half in advance before.
Don't get me wrong, if you want to walk into a showroom tomorrow and place an order on a 2011 C7 Corvette "On good faith", you won't find anyone not willing to take your cash and place you on a so-called "List" and use your money as a no-intrest loan for the next 4 years. But you still haven't bought a guarantee that you'll have the first C7 Corvette (or in this case, Camaro) sold by the dealership, let alone the 1st one in your area.
So, being that anyone with internet access can brag about having a deposit on a 5th gen Camaro regardless as to if they actually do, outside of being able to say you gave someone free money for the next year and a half to get an imaginary position on a dealership list (which is in reality kept by each individual sales person), the point is exactly what??
no ****. How exactly do you order a car that has no options available, no colors, no motor and absolutely no specs on the car. Thank you captain obvious. All you can do is put money down and reserve your spot in line, simple. And my car would be for sticker. The benefit of having my fathers good friend who lives 4 houses down and is a long timer at a dealership is simply to reserve my spot. He's a friend, someone who knows that I will walk in, knowing more about the car than any salesman, and pay cash as we have with all our cars. no bull**** no hassles just sold. he told me as soon as I first spoke to him that they would be getting well over sticker in the first run and he was doing me a favor. How exactly is it bragging when you put money down since anyone can do it. Anyone can do the same. Just having some Newb chump like Mr Wolf call me out as an idiot is ****ing disrespect. He doesn't know **** about me. And when it comes to F-Bodies and Ls1's, I'll bet my first born I know more than him. I have been driving Camaro's since I was 16 and I plan on getting the new one, my spot WAS reserved.
Edited to eliminate my harshness. Somewhat.
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