One GOOD reason to live in Oshawa
02-25-2009, 09:19 PM
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They are called "Captured Fleet" vehicles.
02-26-2009, 07:05 AM
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The power is there, in droves. Don't want to leave it stock? The mod potential of the LS3 is even better than that of the LS1.
By all accounts, the car rides and handles far better than a 4th gen.
So what the heck are you "concerned" about?
02-26-2009, 08:27 AM
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I don't understand this line of thinking. It's heavier, so it takes more power to go a particular speed. That's physics.
The power is there, in droves. Don't want to leave it stock? The mod potential of the LS3 is even better than that of the LS1.
By all accounts, the car rides and handles far better than a 4th gen.
So what the heck are you "concerned" about?
The power is there, in droves. Don't want to leave it stock? The mod potential of the LS3 is even better than that of the LS1.
By all accounts, the car rides and handles far better than a 4th gen.
So what the heck are you "concerned" about?
Last edited by christianjax; 02-26-2009 at 09:48 AM.
02-26-2009, 09:17 AM
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Hey Pete!
Glad to hear that you feel the car has some potential for enjoyment on the track!
Your review is great - and pretty accurate! Thanks!
Best regardSS,
Elie
Glad to hear that you feel the car has some potential for enjoyment on the track!
Your review is great - and pretty accurate! Thanks!
Best regardSS,
Elie
02-26-2009, 09:46 AM
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02-26-2009, 12:07 PM
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Don't worry dude, you'll get your chance . Tuesday night was very last minute, and a very rushed visit!
This car (and ones like it) came directly from the plant in Oshawa, and goes back the very next day for the next guy to take out. Right now, it's mostly managers, etc., who are taking the cars out for testing. However, as more and more of them are being built, there should be more available for testing. I don't know how far "down the line" they allow workers to take the cars from the plant? 
Our neighbour typically has a different Impala or Silverado every day of the week (it's basically part of a quality assurance program, to make sure that the vehicles coming off the line are being put together well). Now that the Camaro is in the mix, it will become part of the regular "fleet" of cars driven by managers for testing.
Hey Elie! Yeah, it's been a long time coming getting a change to try out the car. Pretty hard to gauge accurately just how well it handles from a quick drive on city streets, but the fact that I couldn't FEEL any body roll, and feeling how strong the brakes are, I'm sure it's going to work well 
.
..... hmmm, maybe if I fed our neighbour a few beer and slipped him a couple hundred bucks, he'd let me take a car up to Mosport for some track testing!!!
. Tuesday night was very last minute, and a very rushed visit! Our neighbour typically has a different Impala or Silverado every day of the week (it's basically part of a quality assurance program, to make sure that the vehicles coming off the line are being put together well). Now that the Camaro is in the mix, it will become part of the regular "fleet" of cars driven by managers for testing....... hmmm, maybe if I fed our neighbour a few beer and slipped him a couple hundred bucks, he'd let me take a car up to Mosport for some track testing!!!
02-26-2009, 12:13 PM
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One negative ..... I forgot to mention this about the car in my review:
Big blind spot on the driver's side
. Big. And I thought that the 4th-gens had a pretty wicked blind spot as it was 
. But again, that's part of getting used to a car. I'm sure it's something you would learn to deal with, and just pay VERY close attention to who's around you at all times. But trying to change lanes to my left, when I looked, I saw NOTHING! I swung myself around backwards, I swear, and all I could see was the C-pillar .
That's my biggest complaint. A little too late to change THAT now, so I guess it's something people will have to get used to.
Edit: if you're driving with the windows down, you may want to stick your head out the window Ace Ventura style to check your blind spot.
Big blind spot on the driver's side
. Big. And I thought that the 4th-gens had a pretty wicked blind spot as it was . But again, that's part of getting used to a car. I'm sure it's something you would learn to deal with, and just pay VERY close attention to who's around you at all times. But trying to change lanes to my left, when I looked, I saw NOTHING! I swung myself around backwards, I swear, and all I could see was the C-pillar .That's my biggest complaint. A little too late to change THAT now, so I guess it's something people will have to get used to.
Edit: if you're driving with the windows down, you may want to stick your head out the window Ace Ventura style to check your blind spot
.
Last edited by Capn Pete; 02-26-2009 at 12:15 PM.
02-26-2009, 01:11 PM
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[threadjack]
Public Service Announcement:
Too many people adjust their mirrors in such a way that all 3 show basically the same thing. Here's a much better way.
Adjust the center mirror centered on the rear window.
Check what you see at the edges.
Set the outside mirrors to just slightly overlap the edges of what you see in the center mirror.
You shouldn't need to shoulder check anymore. Your peripheral vision will pick up anything beside you when you check the outside mirrors.
It seems strange at first, because you don't see the side of the car at all, but as you get used to it you'll have a much better feel for what's going on around you.
[/threadjack]
Public Service Announcement:
Too many people adjust their mirrors in such a way that all 3 show basically the same thing. Here's a much better way.
Adjust the center mirror centered on the rear window.
Check what you see at the edges.
Set the outside mirrors to just slightly overlap the edges of what you see in the center mirror.
You shouldn't need to shoulder check anymore. Your peripheral vision will pick up anything beside you when you check the outside mirrors.
It seems strange at first, because you don't see the side of the car at all, but as you get used to it you'll have a much better feel for what's going on around you.
[/threadjack]
02-26-2009, 01:55 PM
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.The "shoulder check" showed me nothing more than what was right outside my window! Obviously, mirror adjustment will be CRUCIAL in these cars.
Like I said, this is something that will take some seat time to get used to (well, at least for me ... and maybe I'm just 'special'
).
02-26-2009, 02:43 PM
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[threadjack]
Public Service Announcement:
Too many people adjust their mirrors in such a way that all 3 show basically the same thing. Here's a much better way.
Adjust the center mirror centered on the rear window.
Check what you see at the edges.
Set the outside mirrors to just slightly overlap the edges of what you see in the center mirror.
You shouldn't need to shoulder check anymore. Your peripheral vision will pick up anything beside you when you check the outside mirrors.
It seems strange at first, because you don't see the side of the car at all, but as you get used to it you'll have a much better feel for what's going on around you.
[/threadjack]
Public Service Announcement:
Too many people adjust their mirrors in such a way that all 3 show basically the same thing. Here's a much better way.
Adjust the center mirror centered on the rear window.
Check what you see at the edges.
Set the outside mirrors to just slightly overlap the edges of what you see in the center mirror.
You shouldn't need to shoulder check anymore. Your peripheral vision will pick up anything beside you when you check the outside mirrors.
It seems strange at first, because you don't see the side of the car at all, but as you get used to it you'll have a much better feel for what's going on around you.
[/threadjack]
Rant done.