View Poll Results: The Z should be built this way.
500hp Lsa,lightweight,excellent brakes and suspension with the pricetag.
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25.68%
LS3 with cams,lightweight,excellent brakes and suspension.
29
39.19%
I don't care I want a LSA 500+ north hp/tq Cobra eater Camaro.
26
35.14%
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Ideal Z28
10-03-2008, 05:50 PM
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Ideal Z28
Well I know there isn't anything coming from GM till they have huge success with Camaro v6 and SS(which I have faith that it will be a successful product), but many are talking about LSA, lightweight,good brakes, and excellent corning curve z28. With that all being said the pricetag for Z will not be cheap. I personal don't mine the z28 coming with a ls3 with a cam producing 450+ hp, with 300+pounds shave off, and excellent handling. Price no more than $5000 over the SS.
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10-03-2008, 05:59 PM
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I would love to hear how you would shave 300+ pounds off of the car. Fbodfather himself has said ideas like composite body panels etc would not save weight. People don't buy cars without power windows, power seats etc so that won't do any good. There just is not a practical way to reduce the weight of this car at this point in it's production. I wish they could. I would love a 450-475hp 3300lb Camaro but it just aint gonna happen. We may get a 3900 LB 500+hp Z28 and if we do I will buy it without hessitation.
10-03-2008, 06:16 PM
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My choice isn't on the list. 
But, FWIW, The LS3 can make 480hp with the hot cam swap. Add a better flowing exhaust, CAI (or ram-air induction) and with a good tune the current SS/M6 could make 500hp without adding an ounce of weight.
Upgrade the brakes, wheels & tires and you might have something.
But, FWIW, The LS3 can make 480hp with the hot cam swap. Add a better flowing exhaust, CAI (or ram-air induction) and with a good tune the current SS/M6 could make 500hp without adding an ounce of weight.
Upgrade the brakes, wheels & tires and you might have something.
10-03-2008, 07:52 PM
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I would love to hear how you would shave 300+ pounds off of the car. Fbodfather himself has said ideas like composite body panels etc would not save weight. People don't buy cars without power windows, power seats etc so that won't do any good. There just is not a practical way to reduce the weight of this car at this point in it's production. I wish they could. I would love a 450-475hp 3300lb Camaro but it just aint gonna happen. We may get a 3900 LB 500+hp Z28 and if we do I will buy it without hessitation.
10-03-2008, 08:01 PM
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Don't get me wrong I would love to see a light weight Camaro but because the Camaro needs to be a high volume car based on a versitle platform and needs to be affordable we are going to have to just hope for more HP and a car that is well balanced.
10-03-2008, 09:43 PM
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That would be interesting....would you propose 2 or 4 cams?
As far as the whole "should the Z28 be N/A lightweight or have an LSA" (which actually makes 556hp in the CTS-V) debate, I'll just say:
Oh cr@p, here we go again
?As far as the whole "should the Z28 be N/A lightweight or have an LSA" (which actually makes 556hp in the CTS-V) debate, I'll just say:
Oh cr@p, here we go again
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10-03-2008, 11:21 PM
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Well the reason why chose a cammed ls3 over the lsa (correct me if I'm wrong) wouldn't it cost more to put a lsa in a camaro and worth alot of money to take care of it.
10-04-2008, 04:38 AM
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10-04-2008, 09:24 AM
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ANY volume RWD vehicle that has IRS and a high powered V8 engine from any car maker will never equal lightweight.
The LSA powered sigma CTSv weighs 4,250 pounds.
ANY 500 plus horsepower car that carries more than 2 passengers, RWD, & IRS will never be lightweight.
The current BMW M5 weighs over 4,034 pounds (slightly more than a Crown Victoria) yet is no bigger than the Chevrolet Malibu.
ANY 400 horsepower RWD car that carries more than 2 passengers, has a V8, and IRS will not be lightweight.
The nearly Chevrolet Cobalt sized Lexus ISf weighs just under 3800 pounds (Cobalt is 180" long, the IS is 183")
I guess no matter the actual facts or reality is, the anti-Zeta BS continues.
The LSA powered sigma CTSv weighs 4,250 pounds.
ANY 500 plus horsepower car that carries more than 2 passengers, RWD, & IRS will never be lightweight.
The current BMW M5 weighs over 4,034 pounds (slightly more than a Crown Victoria) yet is no bigger than the Chevrolet Malibu.
ANY 400 horsepower RWD car that carries more than 2 passengers, has a V8, and IRS will not be lightweight.
The nearly Chevrolet Cobalt sized Lexus ISf weighs just under 3800 pounds (Cobalt is 180" long, the IS is 183")
I guess no matter the actual facts or reality is, the anti-Zeta BS continues.
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10-04-2008, 09:31 AM
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