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Old 02-07-2008, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Silverado C-10
Proof/evidence of any sorts?
Five years ago, the average MSRP of cars in USA was $28k, according to this:

http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...ave/index.html

Car prices have gone up - just matching inflation. Never mind the improvements also going in, like better safety and features.

As for the average prices of new Mustangs... I'd say Hyperv6 was even being a little conservative. I did a quick search on Ford's web site, for new Mustangs on dealer lots... inventory at local dealers seems to range from $27k - $37k MSRP. After taking out haggle-discounts, maybe he was pretty much right on.

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Old 02-07-2008, 12:00 PM
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Is NO LESS than 300 hp, too much for some people?
Definitely.



my guess is we'll see HP levels around

250/320/430

thats a nice round offering to widen the appeal as much as possible.

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Originally Posted by ChrisL
Definitely.



my guess is we'll see HP levels around

250/320/430

thats a nice round offering to widen the appeal as much as possible.
Gosh, I sure hope not.
A. Not sure the "top dog" will be available in a convertible.
B. Don't want to spend what they will be asking for it to get at least 400 hp.

I want a V8 convertible with at least 400hp (like the concept promised) at around $35-38k.
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:09 PM
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The problem is that dealers are affraid to order such stripped cars as they tend to "rot on the lot".
I agree, it won't be a popular option, but it should be available. If I walk into a dealerhsip and that's what I want, I will wait for them to ship it from Florida if that is where one is. As long as it is available, that's what I will want.
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisL
Definitely.



my guess is we'll see HP levels around

250/320/430

thats a nice round offering to widen the appeal as much as possible.
430
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by christianjax
Gosh, I sure hope not.
A. Not sure the "top dog" will be available in a convertible.
B. Don't want to spend what they will be asking for it to get at least 400 hp.

I want a V8 convertible with at least 400hp (like the concept promised) at around $35-38k.
I cant speak towards pricing. As you well know, verts command a much higher MSRP over coupes, but I see no reason to believe there wont be a 400+HP V8 vert in the sales brochures when verts go into production.

and the "top dog" to me will be the GT500 killer.... and 430HP isn't going to fill that need.
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:21 PM
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...and the "top dog" to me will be the GT500 killer.... and 430HP isn't going to fill that need.
We've never agreed more.
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I just went to Ford.com and priced out a Mustang with the options that I want, convertible, V8, Nav, Shaker 500 Watt stereo, 3.55 axle, 5 speed manual, 18 inch wheels (biggest available) and even racing stripes. and it came to $35,605, Please GM, build me the Camaro with those options and 400 HP at around $36,000 and you can consider one SOLD.
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:27 PM
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i think they'll be in the ballpark for sure.... Fbodfather has been saying all along it will be competetively priced vs Mustangs.... and yeah... probably offering gobs more HP to boot... but we all know HP doesn't sell cars.
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Originally Posted by 5thGen
I agree, it won't be a popular option, but it should be available. If I walk into a dealerhsip and that's what I want, I will wait for them to ship it from Florida if that is where one is. As long as it is available, that's what I will want.
Agreed! I'm actually somewhat planning on having to order the car I want (think about the number of Camaros GM will sell (less than/near 100K?), divided by number of dealers, the fact that *most* people don't like manuals, and I don't want a loaded car = I'll probably never see what I want on a *local* lot)
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Originally Posted by Silverado C-10
Agreed! I'm actually somewhat planning on having to order the car I want (think about the number of Camaros GM will sell (less than/near 100K?), divided by number of dealers, the fact that *most* people don't like manuals, and I don't want a loaded car = I'll probably never see what I want on a *local* lot)
yeah, no kidding.

As long as I'm not getting charged the same price as ones with all that junk, it's cool if I have to wait a bit.

Also, if I need to order it, then the only option I'll check off is V8, I just hope they'll let me order one like that if it's not offered.
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GMHTP ran a new bone stock 2002 Z28 on a cold November day at Englishtown or Atco and got a 12.98 out of it. Cant remember the mph, but it was BIG news at the time.
2010 Camaro will probably cost more than an 09 Mustang. GM isnt giving us OnStar and IRS for free. Price per pound might be less...flame suit on.
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I thought it was an SS that went 12.98 on a warm day and the Z28 went 12.89 on a cool day?
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Originally Posted by HAZ-Matt
I thought it was an SS that went 12.98 on a warm day and the Z28 went 12.89 on a cool day?
What's the diff? They would both post the exact same times in the exact same conditions.
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What's the diff? They would both post the exact same times in the exact same conditions.
why is it the SS Camaro and Z28 post exact same times, and the WS6 was faster than a basic Trans Am? Was the hood design more effecient? Was it the exhaust? Was it something else? (gears perhaps?)
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