that is not true i have a deposit at my dealer and im getting the v8 camaro for msrp

 

I'm not basing this on opinion. What do you think the Challenger Waiting list people thought of when they placed the deposits and signed up? Especially when the vehicle was suppose to MSRP at 40,000 and is now $55,000.

The Truth is, dealerships are there to make money and not throw it out the door.

Another Truth is that you don't know what is the going MSRP is for the V8. There are no set prices as of yet. If it's $42,000 will you still be purchasing it?

$55,000 for a Challenger? Hmm..... Common on.... only super freakers would pay for that.

Here is the G6 with the Hammerhead. It's quite attractive in person....

 

i have paper work from my dealer that says i am gaurenteed msrp so i am not paying a cent over it and my dealer said that my deposit is refundable or can be used on another car so if the msrp is close to the vette i will just buy a vette but the camaro will not cost close to the vette

 

I here you.... but just pointing out the facts of what's going on. I'm not here to burst your bubble. No one wants to be disappointed, including me. Let's play our cards right though!!!!

I'm sure you don't want to buy a Vette at a their current pricing either.. that's why we go for Camaros. That freakin cost is the factor of the wants and want of. If that was not the matter, we would be driving $10,000 Hyundais and be happy with it.

By the way, after driving the G8 last night, I was at the Chevy dealer as well. There lot was packed full of vehicles without a single customer... I didn't see a single on-lot salesman either!!!! They are hurt right now! Just once again proving they will try to make profit at every which way to make up for the revenue inefficiency.

 

Explain the Malibu, Silverado, etc...They're not 'hurt' Maybe you wandered by during a lull?

That's great about the G8, though. We all heard it's an awesome car - and that's wonderful to hear that echoed!

 

Maybe they were closed

 

I did checkout the Malibu yesterday and noticing how well it was packaged for $22,000 K.

Listen, I'm just giving you guys my finding summary and to not burst anyone's bubbles.

The Malibu and Silverado is not doing well here in California. Even if it was low tides when I came across the dealerships, they didn't have any Sales staff any where to be seen and it was a large dealership. I walked through a very large AutoSquare. Pontiac, Hummer, Volvo, Nissan, Chevy, Dodge, Acura, Mazda, Suzuki, Toyota, Saturn.

Mazda and Acura had the most Sales on hand... then Dodge. Pontiac was not very strong either.

Like what one of the guys on the pontiacg8.com said, we all heard good things about the G8 but it's good coming from a Consumer.

If GM replicateds the Camaro V8 pound for pound against the G8, we will have one fine Vehicle.

 

hahhahahaha.. that's some funny Statement It was only 6 pm man! hahahahahah!!!!!!!!

I think we will be spanked by the pricing!!!

If that's the case, get yourself a used 4th gen Fbody and throw an LS3 in it!

 

i no for a fact that dealers will rip off people n charge rediculous amounts over msrp
if you dont want to get ripped off and u have a deposit down you get it signed paper work saying you have msrp

as for the vettes you can get one thats on the lot cheap my aunt bought a vette that sticker was 50,000 n she got it for 38,000 bc we have been dealing with the dealer for 22 years and it was just sitting on the lot

 

I think your logic is flawed. It has been my experience that when dealer's are hurting that it is a buyer's market, they will deeply discount the price just to move units. No different than any retail business, if sales are good, prices stay up, if sales are bad prices go down.
Clyde

 

Pound for pound?!?!?! Damn! I don't think I want a 4000 lb Camaro!

anyways...it's cool that you're not setting yourself up for dissapointment as far as Camaro prices go...but seriously - I think you're bracing yourself for TOO much dissapointment.

The G8 is a Pontiac, which by nature, is generally a little more expensive than a Chevy counterpart. The Camaro is NOT gonna be limited production or whatnot...(not saying you said that, though). If a brand-spanking-new 1 of 888 G8 was NOT marked up...then I don't see an issue with the Camaro. :shrugh:

 

^And the Camaro will not be imported from Australia, that adds to the price tag too. I still think a base V-8 Camaro should be around 28-29K.

 

Dragoneye and Wildpaws,

I'm not referring to your typical vehicle, I'm referring to the Challengers and the Camaros. Granted the G8 is a very well packaged vehicle, it is not as hot as the Camaro and the Challenger.

On a vehicle that doesn't sell, dealership will lower the price to move, but on a hot one, they will markup to profit. Can we say a HOT vehicle is reference by a "Waiting List?"

I never in my wildlest dream think the Challenger would have a waiting list coming in at $40k plus.

Matt,
P.S. A 4000 lbs. Camaro you would even feel if it's 361 Horses driven. Weight is well displaced by acceleration power!

 

The Camaro is going to shadow the pricing of the Mustang very closely. Scott has pointed this out and stressed this for a long time. The Camaro may be a little higher but it will be a value packed with things like IRS and more HP than the Mustang offers.

The G8 also points out that GM is going to be aggressive on pricing. No one expected the G8 to come in as cheap as it has.

The Challanger from the start was expected to be an expensive car. If your suprised you have not been keeping up. It was clear from the start it was going to be expensive, very heavy and not as high a volume as the Camaro or Mustang. they will offer cheaper models but they will still be priced with the GT and SS Camaro. Why get a V6 Challanger when the entry level V8 Mustang or Camaro at about the same price?

Dealers will mark up the prices but they will last only for the first 6 months like the Mustang did as supply catches up with demand. At that point GM will help make the picing more competitive between dealers and they can't keep it high as others will under cut their price.

Keep in mind Chevy is GM's value leader in all models. Even the new ZR-1 at $100,000 is a car that only car that cost $500,000 and up can compete with it. The Camaro will also be a value leader as this was a major factor the car was designed around. Things like B pillars and the lesser use of lighter metals all keep cost down to make this car a value and competitive with the Mustang.

Chevy also wants to keep the Volume up to help drive profits as Chevy also works to make profits on high volume car sales vs Cadillac who make more per unit but sells less cars.

 

The first gear in the A6 has some ridiculous ratio... 4.8:1 or something.

MatthewRox, please go back and edit the first post, removing ALL 35 EXCLAMATION POINTS, so that I can go back and read it without tearing my eyes out.