Camaro Concept:z28 Vs.ss
12-11-2006, 03:57 AM
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Yeah, but that has to say somethin. There are plenty of other components that would make a car a performer, but I would have wonder if there is anything more important than the engine? There are always things like suspension and transmission etc., but the engine has to be the biggest part of the equation...especially back in the 1960s, the pride of the muscle car era. You could say that what seperates a base Corvette from a Z06 is more than just an engine, in which I agree totally, but you have to admit that what gives the Z06 most of its edge is that monster 7 liter engine. Besides that, didnt the SS cost more as well? I know, I know, your gonna tell me that cost doesnt make a car top dog either...but it does certainly say something, and you cant ignore that Chevy chose the SS to be higher priced for a reason.
12-11-2006, 10:53 AM
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I saw a '70 LS6 SS 454 Chevelle the other day, and the first thing I thought was, "Damn too bad for him. I wouldn't want a SS because it's just an appearance package. GM slaps the SS badge on everything these days anyway, so it's played out. I'd rather have a '70 Malibu."
12-11-2006, 11:02 AM
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I saw a '70 LS6 SS 454 Chevelle the other day, and the first thing I thought was, "Damn too bad for him. I wouldn't want a SS because it's just an appearance package. GM slaps the SS badge on everything these days anyway, so it's played out. I'd rather have a '70 Malibu."
I'm sure that you didn't see it driving to the local 7/11 for a gallon of 2% milk.
12-11-2006, 11:09 AM
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Performance comes in all shapes and sizes, and "SS" has always combined performance with comfort and luxury. For instance you could order A/C with a Camaro SS in 1967-69; however you couldn't order it with a Z/28. Want an automatic transmission? No problem, SS has that option... however Z/28 does not. (Prior to 1970.)
Which is "top dog" is really not that important. This is why I said earlier in this thread:
When you think of it, they're both "top dogs" in their own way; just on different planes. Some prefer one over the other. There's nothing wrong with that IMO.
12-11-2006, 12:52 PM
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An excellent point. That argument has been discussed before and has merrit. However, please keep in mind, the very first production "SS" was a 6-cylinder. Besides with "today's Chevrolet", the top model in price is sometimes the SS and sometimes the LT2.
Performance comes in all shapes and sizes, and "SS" has always combined performance with comfort and luxury. For instance you could order A/C with a Camaro SS in 1967-69; however you couldn't order it with a Z/28. Want an automatic transmission? No problem, SS has that option... however Z/28 does not. (Prior to 1970.)
Which is "top dog" is really not that important. This is why I said earlier in this thread:
When you think of it, they're both "top dogs" in their own way; just on different planes. Some prefer one over the other. There's nothing wrong with that IMO.
Performance comes in all shapes and sizes, and "SS" has always combined performance with comfort and luxury. For instance you could order A/C with a Camaro SS in 1967-69; however you couldn't order it with a Z/28. Want an automatic transmission? No problem, SS has that option... however Z/28 does not. (Prior to 1970.)
Which is "top dog" is really not that important. This is why I said earlier in this thread:
When you think of it, they're both "top dogs" in their own way; just on different planes. Some prefer one over the other. There's nothing wrong with that IMO.
12-11-2006, 01:55 PM
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12-11-2006, 04:34 PM
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You mean the first year's production will be base Camaros exclusively? That doesn't seem quite right to me.
12-11-2006, 04:46 PM
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If you just owned a 1996 Z28/SS, your partisan wars would be irrelevent. The only 4th gen that had both monikers. 1997 and onward, it was only called SS.
For 1996, the SS was 305 HP/335 Tq. (310 with performance exhaust), whereas the Z28 was rated at 285 HP/325 Tq . In 1997, the SS was the only offering with an LT4 option (335 HP/350 Tq)
And to recall..
when the SS was ordered from the dealer, it opened a suite of additional options NOT AVAILABLE TO THE Z28:
Option Code: WU8
1) Suspension upgrade (Level I or Level II) which included Eibach springs (lower by at least 1 1/2"), Bilstein shocks, 1LE sway bars, stiffer durometer bushings on the tranny and control arms.
2) Performance exhaust (3" post-y-pipe) w' SLP 2OTL (100% stainless steel)
3) Torsen Differential, (Auburn for later years) with AAM cover (recirculates diff oil through a cooling area)
4) Hurst shifter w' leather wrap **** (6-speed)
5) BF Goodrich Comp T/A 275-40ZR-17 tires, w' ZR-1 wheels
6) Optional BFG R1 racing tires on their own wheels
7) Synthetic Oil Option (Castrol)
8) Oil Cooler
and the other obvious cosmetic items:
Functional hoodscoop, different rear spoiler (pronounced uplift), SS badging, ZR1 wheels.
For 1996, the SS was 305 HP/335 Tq. (310 with performance exhaust), whereas the Z28 was rated at 285 HP/325 Tq . In 1997, the SS was the only offering with an LT4 option (335 HP/350 Tq)
And to recall..
when the SS was ordered from the dealer, it opened a suite of additional options NOT AVAILABLE TO THE Z28:
Option Code: WU8
1) Suspension upgrade (Level I or Level II) which included Eibach springs (lower by at least 1 1/2"), Bilstein shocks, 1LE sway bars, stiffer durometer bushings on the tranny and control arms.
2) Performance exhaust (3" post-y-pipe) w' SLP 2OTL (100% stainless steel)
3) Torsen Differential, (Auburn for later years) with AAM cover (recirculates diff oil through a cooling area)
4) Hurst shifter w' leather wrap **** (6-speed)
5) BF Goodrich Comp T/A 275-40ZR-17 tires, w' ZR-1 wheels
6) Optional BFG R1 racing tires on their own wheels
7) Synthetic Oil Option (Castrol)
8) Oil Cooler
and the other obvious cosmetic items:
Functional hoodscoop, different rear spoiler (pronounced uplift), SS badging, ZR1 wheels.
Last edited by Ultra_Dog; 12-11-2006 at 05:30 PM.
12-11-2006, 05:40 PM
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