Ya... who were these yahoos anyway...

 

Yep, that's what I mean, once they established 1st gen's as serious competition, they put all kinds of goodies in the right places.

My dad ordered his '68 SS 396/325hp, Hurst shifted, Muncie 4spd, in Vette Bronze with a black bumble stripe.
I don't have pics on file, but it was like this one:



Six inches of air under the tires when he dropped the clutch, and more daylight just cracking under the tires on the 1/2 shift, after adding a cam, headers and traction.

He added gages to keep tabs on th oil, temp and volts. I think GM seeing how popular all the gages were with the street crowd, sweetened the pot, adding them to the IP's.

I'd love to find and buy his car back, but I haven't got a clue as to how to find it...I don't have anything left with a VIN on it.

 

in reference to those gauge clusters posted earlier, every single one of them, if not analog has a digital readout for the rest of the vitals, and they are all clear, easy to see and styled accordingly. pretty much every interior made owns the concepts and this pre production interior layout, center stack makes me want to vommit, dash is so large and "fat" in that area, the car is themed with angular styling but the interior is all bout curve flows and radius's and round things, doesnt even match. and the gauges by the knee failed in 69, but somehow they are back. and if you look at every car made to date, every one has a super clear instrument panel with nice crisp needles and defined numbers/markings. and to all those people who say were over reacting and its not that important the car looks good etc. well it is important, GM has never grasped the fact that the person buying the car lives in the interior, and its the most intimate part and you see it the most. so IMO like all this, the interior is the MOST important factor of the car by far. i know its not done, you dont have to tell me that, but unless it takes on some major changes. the alarming amount of even the hardcore enthusiasts (us) that dont like one major thing or another, that scares me. most regular people wont either, its one thing to say you like the interior because its out there and innovative etc etc. but its another to live with it in a practical environment, most people will change their tune if they have to stare at those square cubes segregated in the dash all day. i for one am basing my buying on the interior, some/most wont i guess. but for me i like the look of the car, and i know the power will be there, but if the interior doesnt match my standards for even the most basic of cars out there, then "I" wont buy one. dont flame this is my opinion, you all are entitled to your own. but i predict if there isnt alot of changes from what we've had a taste of, i fear there wont be many buyers of this car other then the hard core that dont care whats there, they will conform to like it.

another point i should make is, while the auto industry has evolved, so has the consumer, these days they expect more from their auto. the days are gone of the 60's, 70's 80's even 90's where substandard build and layout were more widely accepted and endured. hell i LOVE the camaro, and i accept what they WERE, but the days are done for me to own a brand new car and live in the past expectancies of design and ergonomics of past camaros. im sure alot of people feel that way weather they like the design or not. time to get with the times and have a kick **** interior. even the mustang sucks, but all the new cars from other then north america seem to have it. they can be retro too, but they dont live on that fact as the primary design purpose. they get that, why cant we? i would have been happy with a holden style interior with camaro cues. its 2009 when this things out, not 1969....heres a flipped to get an idea.

 

That's nuts. More important than road performance... quality... safety... and pricing? Baloney.
From what I've seen and read here (for example the DIC and rumored HUD), I believe the Camaro will exceed people's expectations in interior design. A person cannot really discern much about the acceptability of an interior, until one tries to actually operate it. It appears the Camaro interior has radically evolved during its hiatus, to be modern and very functional, but still retain critically important design cues.

 

It is his opinion - just because it may not be yours or mine doesn't make it "baloney". It just makes it different.

My most important criterion are performance, cost, and exterior looks. But that's just me.

I agree that a person cannot really discern much about the acceptibility of an interior until one tries to actually operate it. But I'm pretty sure that works both ways, and judging by the posts you've made, I'd say you've accepted it - ad nauseum - without actually operating it. No big deal to me....but knocking people for NOT accepting it based on the same amount of info as you have is rather hypocritical.

IMHO.

Bob

 

Fine... here for the politically correct crowd, is the more precise version.

"That's preposterous, and far out of line with the vast majority of potential buyers for this car. So interior styling is more important than road performance... quality... safety... and pricing? Such an opinion, while just as legitimate as anyone elses, is so far out of the norm for most buyers of value performance coupes, it's clear that such a position is balonious to the bulk of the buying public; and due to that, it is very difficult to believe this is truly your position on the matter."

Better now?

As for accepting it - I've said repeatedly here I will reserve final judgment until I can drive one. (Maybe some others here should make the same pledge?) There will no doubt be things I don't like about it. But it sure appears that overall, the new Camaro's combination of likely features, quality, performance and yes style, will suit me fine

 

you make it sound like road performance... quality... safety... and pricing in your words, have anything to do with a good quality interior with good design? you will be quite surprised at how many look at the quality of where the driver lives. failed design 69 guages and console torque meters tells me i cant take it seriously.