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04-18-2008, 12:23 PM
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5.3 V8 DI 400HP as the BASE V8
Got to thinking about Scott saying that we're in for some big surprises.
The biggest surprise I believe, will be what the BASE V8 will be.
From the get-go, I believed that the Camaro, was going to be the showcase vehicle, for the next generation of V8 engines.
The design goal will probaby be a BASE V8 with 100HP more, than the BASE V6.
With a 2.0L 260HP I4 , & a 3.6L 304HP V6 already done.
The time for the DI V8 is here now.
With everyone knowing that it won't be the LS2 , & thinking that it will be the LS3, I think that we'll be in for a nice surprise...
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04-18-2008, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2001Firehawk
Got to thinking about Scott saying that we're in for some big surprises.
The biggest surprise I believe, will be what the BASE V8 will be.
From the get-go, I believed that the Camaro, was going to be the showcase vehicle, for the next generation of V8 engines.
The design goal will probaby be a BASE V8 with 100HP more, than the BASE V6.
With a 2.0L 260HP I4 , & a 3.6L 304HP V6 already done.
The time for the DI V8 is here now.
With everyone knowing that it won't be the LS2 , & thinking that it will be the LS3, I think that we'll be in for a nice surprise...
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Nope.
The LNF 2.0L turbo DI engine was mentioned in passing by Bob Lutz as a possibility if CAFE causes a problem for the Camaro. It's not even remotely close to "already done".
The LS3 will be the "base" V8. The Gen V DI motors aren't quite yet ready to be released.
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04-18-2008, 12:33 PM
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I don't know much about the 5.3 motor...what would its advantages be? Is it DOD capable? DI would provide better mileage - do you expect mileage figures to be better than with LS3?
Just curious and want to learn more
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04-18-2008, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SManZ
I don't know much about the 5.3 motor...what would its advantages be? Is it DOD capable? DI would provide better mileage - do you expect mileage figures to be better than with LS3?
Just curious and want to learn more 
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Unless GM is developing a new RWD 5.3L V8, the only 5.3L V8s in the lineup right now are the Vortec truck engines. They put out between 315-320 HP and 340 lb.ft. of torque.
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04-18-2008, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by skorpion317
Unless GM is developing a new RWD 5.3L V8, the only 5.3L V8s in the lineup right now are the Vortec truck engines. They put out between 315-320 HP and 340 lb.ft. of torque.
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He could be talking about the LS4, which I have in the Impala, but as far as I know, it's a FWD only engine. Besides, the DI 3.6 makes more power (though mine sounds better  ), so why would you want an LS4? A 400hp 5.3 would be fun, but I suspect that's not what it's going to be.
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04-18-2008, 01:25 PM
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Gen Vs will either debut in a Cadillac truck or the Corvette.
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04-18-2008, 01:28 PM
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That would be cool.. probably won't happen out of the gate. But I'd have no problem driving a 400hp 5.3l Camaro if it got a few more mpg's...
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04-18-2008, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by skorpion317
Nope.
The LNF 2.0L turbo DI engine was mentioned in passing by Bob Lutz as a possibility if CAFE causes a problem for the Camaro. It's not even remotely close to "already done".
The LS3 will be the "base" V8. The Gen V DI motors aren't quite yet ready to be released.
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When he said, "already done", I think he was referring to the motor being already done on other GM cars.
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04-18-2008, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CLEAN
He could be talking about the LS4, which I have in the Impala, but as far as I know, it's a FWD only engine. Besides, the DI 3.6 makes more power (though mine sounds better  ), so why would you want an LS4? A 400hp 5.3 would be fun, but I suspect that's not what it's going to be. 
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The LS4 is a FWD only engine. If it were put into a RWD application, the throttle body would be facing the firewall.
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04-18-2008, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by skorpion317
The LS4 is a FWD only engine. If it were put into a RWD application, the throttle body would be facing the firewall.
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I know, that's why I said as far as I know, it was a FWD engine only.
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04-18-2008, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CLEAN
I know, that's why I said as far as I know, it was a FWD engine only.
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It would be possible to put the LS4 into a RWD application if a new intake manifold were made.
However, I don't think there's any point to putting the LS4 into the Camaro.
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04-18-2008, 05:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skorpion317
Nope.
The LNF 2.0L turbo DI engine was mentioned in passing by Bob Lutz as a possibility if CAFE causes a problem for the Camaro. It's not even remotely close to "already done".
The LS3 will be the "base" V8. The Gen V DI motors aren't quite yet ready to be released.
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you have zero credible sources.
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04-18-2008, 06:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skorpion317
It would be possible to put the LS4 into a RWD application if a new intake manifold were made.
However, I don't think there's any point to putting the LS4 into the Camaro.
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The LS4 has the horsepower, but does it have the torque to move a Camaro?
You're looking at ~1000 pounds difference.
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04-18-2008, 06:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skorpion317
The LS4 is a FWD only engine. If it were put into a RWD application, the throttle body would be facing the firewall.
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Which would be ideal for a functional cowl induction hood
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04-18-2008, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mjolnir
The LS4 has the horsepower, but does it have the torque to move a Camaro?
You're looking at ~1000 pounds difference.
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323lb/ft for the LS4, 276lb/ft for the 3.6 DI V6.
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