Camaro Pricing General Idea

MatthewRox · 03-06-2008, 11:39 PM

Alright men, I did research today and here are my findings!!!!

I dropped my TA off to see if GM shop will replace cat conv. today. I walked home stopping in at the Pontiac dealer to see if the G8 had arrived.

They were freight to San Fran from Australia this month and 2 of the G8 GT 888 badge edition came in yesterday! I was the first to test drive it luckily! Holy ****.... it is damn nice for 30k.

It accelerated like a bullet!!!! Is it quicker than a LS1 TA? Yes it is man no matter what anyone saids!!! I have a 2001 WS6 with a near new 11,000 miles that I'm comparing to.

All the way! It will not disappoint. Rear will comfortably seat 3 adults with plenty of leg room!!!!! Along with keyless start ignition!!!! Traction control is super on this vehicle!!!!! I guarantee you will brake on a dime if you wanted to stop. The cockpit sits very comfortably and unlike the controls being on the door like the 4th Gen Fbodies, it is center set!!!

Hell, I wanted to trade my 2000 TA in for a 2010 Camaro, but may do it for this vehicle given that Chevy may do a killing on price when it comes out.

I also stopped by Dodge to ask about the Challenger which is coming out at this time as well. There is a long waiting list according to them... and guess what? They are tagging on $15,000 to the MSRP. They are idiots, especially when the vehicle is set to sell at $40k.

You want acceleration stock jet power and luxury, the G8 is it!

For those who want to complain that dealers will do MSRP out the door for the Camaro V8, you better think long and hard on this. You may get the V6 for MSRP but you won't get the V8 at sticker.

All in all men, Pontiac is not raping customers on their 361 horsepower sedan whatsoever. That's somewhat comforting to know! So if you can't go for that Camaro then, shoot for the G8 and you will be smiling to the bank!!!!!!!

Mattttttttttttttttttttt

Ray86IROC · 03-07-2008, 02:16 AM

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It accelerated like a bullet!!!! Is it quicker than a LS1 TA? Yes it is man no matter what anyone saids!!! I have a 2001 WS6 with a near new 11,000 miles that I'm comparing to.

You sure you're not just feeling the greater torque and fairly aggressive gearing combo? I don't see how it could really possibly be quicker than a well running LS1 Fbody. Even if the G8 is underrated and was producing a best-case 400hp, it weighs over 4000 lbs...

Who knows, the faster the better I guess.

flowmotion · 03-07-2008, 04:27 AM

Great news! What does the 888 badging look like?

Silverado C-10 · 03-07-2008, 08:37 AM

That Camaro is "long awaited." The G8 is a "pleasant surprise."

POWERFREAK · 03-07-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray86IROC

You sure you're not just feeling the greater torque and fairly aggressive gearing combo? I don't see how it could really possibly be quicker than a well running LS1 Fbody. Even if the G8 is underrated and was producing a best-case 400hp, it weighs over 4000 lbs....

Doesn't the G8 only have 2.91 rear gears? hardly aggressive...unless the trans is more aggressive.

That's for the report Matt...that's good news, glad you liked it.

MatthewRox · 03-07-2008, 11:32 AM

Yes I did feel the weight stability. The vehicle was an Automatic that had Elec Shift. I didn't try that Elect Shift. The G8 will come out with a manual transmission soon as I know. You probably can get more out of it then.

It's just my word, but you have to give this vehicle a roll when it hits your showroom and you will see and feel what I felt from the drive. The increase horse made up for the weight difference I believe.

The exaust was very contained.... with a better peformance setup, I believe you will even gain more torque from this beast of a drive. I like it best for the Active Fuel Management system.

Matt

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Originally Posted by Ray86IROC

You sure you're not just feeling the greater torque and fairly aggressive gearing combo? I don't see how it could really possibly be quicker than a well running LS1 Fbody. Even if the G8 is underrated and was producing a best-case 400hp, it weighs over 4000 lbs...

Who knows, the faster the better I guess.

MatthewRox · 03-07-2008, 11:34 AM

Powerfreak, try the drive when it hits your dealership and you will feel the Torque power of this vehicle and see what I mean.

If Chevy tacks on anything close to 10,000 on the Camaro, I will definitely go with the G8

Matt

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Originally Posted by POWERFREAK

Doesn't the G8 only have 2.91 rear gears? hardly agressive...unless the trans is more aggressive.

That's for the report Matt...that's good news, glad you liked it.

MatthewRox · 03-07-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by flowmotion

Great news! What does the 888 badging look like?

That vehicle represents performance and Luxury.. thus, they kept the Badging really clean. It's in Italicize Gun Metal lettering with 888, right side passenger dash.

The vehicle is also equipped with 8 Airbags that I didn't mention.

Test drive man when it's at your dealership. One last note, I don't believe the the new Camaro interior will look as appealing as the G8s.

Matt

Got it.. here is the badging someone took.... not too sharp though:

POWERFREAK · 03-07-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewRox

Powerfreak, try the drive when it hits your dealership and you will feel the Torque power of this vehicle and see what I mean.
Matt

I'm happy that it's faster than a WS6 and wasn't question you. I was commenting on a previous post regarding the G8's "more aggressive" gearing. I'm looking forward to taking one for a spin.

Any word on it there will be a G8 w/ LS3?

MatthewRox · 03-07-2008, 12:23 PM

I understood you. Whatever the case, technology does improve and change, thus engine efficiency doe get better than that of 10 or 8 years ago. In saying so, I believe there are grounds for the LS2 or 3s to be much more better than that of the LS1s.

The salesman were taken out to the proving grounds months ago. There were told not to turn off Traction Control. The salesman stated to me no matter how hard they drove it..... Traction control held up to the hardest driving conditions through and through.

I question the engine to get a better understanding and he stated it had an LS2 in it. HMMMMMMMM I thought. That's odd for I don't know if he knew what he was speaking about.

I believe in a year or so, these sedan will go LS3 to correspond with the manufacturing of the Camaros and Vette engines.

Matt

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Originally Posted by POWERFREAK

I'm happy that it's faster than a WS6 and wasn't question you. I was commenting on a previous post regarding the G8's "more aggressive" gearing. I'm looking forward to taking one for a spin.

Any word on it there will be a G8 w/ LS3?

99SilverSS · 03-07-2008, 01:05 PM

Ok the LS1 F-body never feels as fast as it is. I was sure my '97 Z with a few mods would take down a stock LS1 car as it felt much faster.... 3 months later I was driving a '99 SS. Unless you test drove a LS3 G8 GXP then I'd doubt the L76 G8 would take your '01 T/A, even if the SOTP meter says so. That’s good for you!

Pricing will be what it is. The Challenger is a more limited production vehicle than the Camaro. The 2010 Camaro will be more like the 2005 Mustang in terms of mark ups and supply/demand. I’m sure there will be many dealers charging mark-ups on the first Camaro’s they get. I’m sure the “I must have it first” crew will take it where the sun don’t shine and prop it up on eBay after they have had their 5k miles of fun and are on the next hot item. But for us the prices will fall as the supply catches up. GM plans to sell as many Camaro’s as people will buy so if you go in and order your 2010 V8 Camaro and it arrives several months after they are introduced or just wait a bit there is no doubt the price will be in line with the MSRP.

MatthewRox · 03-07-2008, 01:55 PM

You are in Southern California and probably know what the deal is here.
I state the situation so other's will know where they stand when the Camaros come out.

"Heresay" sucks for it's not reality of the circumstances. G8s are limited and do have enthusiast, but don't have markups.

For second let us Heresay and play it out that GM ends up not wanting to Manfacture the vehicle after the 1st or second year..... what happens then?

Many of us who waited for the price drop for supply to catch up, does not happen, we would then be out. "The Have First" is not good but "The Have None" is not that great either.

The G8 is not a Pontiac guarantee production run either. They will be out if they don't sell.

FS3800 · 03-07-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewRox

Hell, I wanted to trade my 2000 TA in for a 2010 Camaro, but may do it for this vehicle given that Chevy may do a killing on price when it comes out.

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Originally Posted by MatthewRox

If Chevy tacks on anything close to 10,000 on the Camaro, I will definitely go with the G8

Matt

Chevy won't be marking up the camaro, the manufacturer never does.. a few dealers will almost certainly have mark ups on it, but there will be plenty of dealers who will sell it for MSRP.. when the time comes i wouldnt be too worried about finding a camaro without markups

anasazi · 03-07-2008, 02:23 PM

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why the hell is "AIRBAG" still a styling cue? WTF? this rates up there with "ABS" on the center caps of pontiac wheels.

gee thanks for reminding me you included a FEDERALLY MANDATED safety feature why not include "SEATBELTS" on the dash as well?

MatthewRox · 03-07-2008, 02:38 PM

Yah that kind of looks stupid... but I guess you can take it as a warning that there is something there which may pop you in the head. The G8 has 8 Airbags. You better watch out where it goes off!!!

I didn't notice if the positions are marked within the vehicle.

Remember, the Camaro Zeta platform was suppose to be built off of this G8. Since GM is cutting the G8 productin in Oshawa, where do you think the fate of the G8 or the Camaro will be? Questioning the fate of the G8 is good for that of the Camaro.

The G8s are coming from Australia....... Camaro test vehicles are coming from there as well. Does this tell you something? If I were to be GM, I would not even begin Oshawa plant and just have the Camaros shipped in from Sydney just like the G8s.

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Originally Posted by anasazi

why the hell is "AIRBAG" still a styling cue? WTF? this rates up there with "ABS" on the center caps of pontiac wheels.

gee thanks for reminding me you included a FEDERALLY MANDATED safety feature why not include "SEATBELTS" on the dash as well?