Wish list for Camaro interior

There are a few essentials that I would like for the new Camaro interior. I would like to hear some more suggestions from others too.

1) A 200mph speedometer.

2) A special cubby (mounting area) for a radar detector that can't be seen from the outside of the car.

3) A place for a laser jammer or Bearcat in the dash.

4) Blank spots to put accessory switches on the dashboard (to facilitate the above). Accessory switches could be sold by dealers for aftersale installation. Trucks have them, why not the Camaro?

5) A leather covered, nicely padded centre armrest.

Navigation w/ dual auto climate control is on the top of my list...But I think that is something it will definatly have..;)

cupholders either in front or beside the shifter not behind it!, parking brake on the passenger side and a bunch of usefull cubby holes.









































and not retro.:p

There are a few essentials that I would like for the new Camaro interior. I would like to hear some more suggestions from others too.

1) A 200mph speedometer.
Um... Why? Its not going to go 200mph. :rolleyes:

Um... Why? Its not going to go 200mph. :rolleyes:
I will once he puts a few grand into it. I will prolly do the same thing. Mine needs to do have a 200 mph speedo

I dunno about the mounts for the radar/jammer, but I think the speedo at 200 would be cool (although it is not at the top of my list). The top of my list is definitely a navigation system and dual climate control....

2) A special cubby (mounting area) for a radar detector that can't be seen from the outside of the car.

3) A place for a laser jammer or Bearcat in the dash.

4) Blank spots to put accessory switches on the dashboard (to facilitate the above). Accessory switches could be sold by dealers for aftersale installation. Trucks have them, why not the Camaro?


i doubt these are happening, especially the first two, that is probably against some regulation, since it would almost be like a factory radar detector, and would be "promoting" speeding. i havent seen #4 before on trucks, but it might be kindof cool.

me i would personally like to have
WINDOW MOTORS THAT ACTUALLY FREAKING WORK!!!

1. A steering wheel no bigger than 14"!!!!
2. An optional Recaro seats


Originally Posted by jg95z28
Um... Why? Its not going to go 200mph

I will once he puts a few grand into it. I will prolly do the same thing. Mine needs to do have a 200 mph speedo

STEEL, do you honestly know how much HP (and aero work) it takes to reach that kind of velocity? It won't amount to "a couple of grand".

Besides, imagine how small the numbers would be on the gauge.

1. A steering wheel no bigger than 14"!!!!
2. An optional Recaro seats






STEEL, do you honestly know how much HP (and aero work) it takes to reach that kind of velocity? It won't amount to "a couple of grand".

Besides, imagine how small the numbers would be on the gauge.
No, I honestly have no idea. I dont know if the one i buy will ever go that fast, but i have dreams. Plus, it impresses stupid people when they see stuff like a 200 mph speedomiter.

GTO gauges are quite functional at 200mph max. What it takes to get there is more gearing and tires than power.

GTO gauges are quite functional at 200mph max. What it takes to get there is more gearing and tires than power.
***RANT MODE ON***

You obviously dont know **** about cars.

It would take an entire remake of the car,
suspension,
aerodynamics (like a completeley new body)
probably a new motor if not a completley rebuilt one,
a new transmission, or completeley new gears (not just a rear gear swap),
Tires have nothing to do with obtaining thats speed, merely you just need a tire that wont blow up going that fast.

I mean how many STREET cars do you know that can go over 200. I can think of 3 or 4 off the top of my head, and they are all shaped like a bullet and all have over 600 hp.

Not to mention, anyone that takes a street car on a public road up to that speed needs to be shot in the god damn head. It is completley irresponsible, stupid, and possibly dangerous to alot of people. How would you feel if you took your little street car up to 180-200 and killed an entire family. It is impossible to control a car at that speed with other traffic on the road.

So no, i do not think it needs a 200 mph speedo, and NOBODY short of a professional trained driver on a track needs to be going anywhere near that speed. If you do, your a ****ing moron, plain and simple.

***RANT MODE OFF***

I will once he puts a few grand into it. I will prolly do the same thing. Mine needs to do have a 200 mph speedo
ok fast and furious, why dont you and dom go take out the supra.

NO, your's does not need to have a 200 mph speedo.

And learn to speak, here i highlighted it for you.

Plus, it impresses stupid people when they see stuff like a 200 mph speedomiter.
Just have to bust your balls a bit.:D

I still want the console gauges, its just neat.
Everything else has already been said. Wait, an interior that I can't destroy when I get mad and start pounding my fist on things. Poor center console.

- An HSV steering wheel... nice, thick rimmed, and squared off slightly at the bottom.
- Heritage design instruments that are easy to read, especially at night.
- Interior plastics must be of good quality... much like the VE Commodore.
- MP3 stereo compatibility (I hear CDs will become obsolete soon).
- Slow fade interior lighting.
- Nice, firm, supportive seats with good, thigh, hip and lumbar support.

That's all I can think of for now.

- An HSV steering wheel... nice, thick rimmed, and squared off slightly at the bottom.
- Heritage design instruments that are easy to read, especially at night.
- Interior plastics must be of good quality... much like the VE Commodore.
- MP3 stereo compatibility (I hear CDs will become obsolete soon).
- Slow fade interior lighting.
- Nice, firm, supportive seats with good, thigh, hip and lumbar support.

That's all I can think of for now.

Totally agree with this list. I also agree with the accessory switches listed above - and the CONSOLE GAUGES!!! I thought that was the best feature of the concept, and would be SO distinctive!!

I disagree with the cupholders in front of the shifter, though. My Wrangler has them there and whenever you shift into third - BAM - your drink's crushed and all over the place. Cup holders off to the side are the best. The cupholders on my wife's 350z aren't great either - they're at the end of the center console and are hard to reach. They do have one cupholder and deploys out of dashboard on the passenger side - which isn't bad, except that it's pretty flimsy. But hidden cupholders would be cool!!

A disk brake system front and back, that is so good, it doesn't need frequent redesigns. :)

A disk brake system front and back, that is so good, it doesn't need frequent redesigns. :)


thats not quite interior, but ok...:think:

GTO gauges are quite functional at 200mph max. What it takes to get there is more gearing and tires than power.

Huh? Better tires and more gear will get it to 200 mph?

GTO gauges are quite functional at 200mph max. What it takes to get there is more gearing and tires than power.

It probably needs a very tall cliff to hit 200 mph. Gearing and tires are completely optional at that point. The speedo probably won't work well either.

It probably needs a very tall cliff to hit 200 mph. Gearing and tires are completely optional at that point. The speedo probably won't work well either.
If you drive it off the cliff, the speedo will hit 200 before you do. :)

I don't see how "The car won't hit 200" is a valid argument. Might as well change the Corvette and GTO speedometers then. As an aside, I think it is pretty dumb when people check the biggest number on the speedometer to see how fast the car will go, but that is a topic for another day.

I would like:
-Some storage in the door big enough to hold a cd case (like in the 4th gen) and a good place to put your cell phone (like you get in the 4th gen unless you have TCS or a convertible).
-4 cupholders
-Express down and up on the windows
-HUD available
-Cig lighter and at least one other power outlet (or two power outlets, I don't smoke)
-Electrochromic rearview mirror
-At least two good colors for the interior. Black and Gray are not acceptable as the only colors.

1) A 200mph speedometer.

Actually, you're probably not off the wall with that request. If you notice the way alot of GM's new speedometers are designed, they are no longer calibrated strictly for miles per hour and have MPH in large font with KmPH in the small tiny font underneath..... the new speedometers now have just a scale of numbers, and depending on the vehicle the numbers will vary. The Corvette Z06, for example, has a scale of 0-300. 300 KmPH = 186 MPH. The GTO has a speedometer with a scale of 0-240, where 240 KmPH = 149.1 MPH. To read the gauge in English or Metrics just push a button on the dash and the speedometer needle is recalibrated to the measurment selected.

So, in essence, you will probably get that wish. I'd bet the speedometer scale will be 0-240. Then you can impress your date and tell her your car can do 240 miles per hour!:D

As for what I personally would like for the interior, all I ask is that the design is tastefull and sharp, and the quality is top notch. That means high quality, soft to the touch plastics, no pannel gaps, and solid structure. In other words, a modern interior. No rattles, not even after 100,000 miles (hey, the Japs have been making rattle free interiors for years. Time for America to step up to the plate)

Re: 200mph speedo.


Let's face it, we all know that rear spoilers, RAM air intakes, and fake plastic air vents don't do anything. But it's the perception that counts. I was spurred on by the fact that many Japanese family cars can do 140 mph these days, and some do 155+. So people look at a Camaro with a 140mph speedo and think its only as fast as a Camry, or a Hyundai Sonata. I know, I know, it's BS, but just try and convince them it is. They acutually believe the speedo and not the facts.

Just put the damn 200mph speedo on it. It'll add thousands at resale time. And yeah, Joe Average is an idiot.

I disagree with the cupholders in front of the shifter, though. My Wrangler has them there and whenever you shift into third - BAM - your drink's crushed and all over the place. thats dodge for you:D GM will do a better job than that and make sure you wont hit while powershifting.:cool:

thats dodge for you:D GM will do a better job than that and make sure you wont hit while powershifting.:cool:
Hopefully the radio isn't too close like it is right now in the 4th-gen!! :eek: (yeah, I've hit the radio controls on a hard 2-3 shift a couple times! :D Maybe not gripping the shifter tight enough?! :shrug: ;)).

Large well placed cupholders,at least 2 power outlets, an awesome stereo. Seats need to be comfortable enough to sit in for hours, Large well placed guages. It can look retro outside but as modern/ top quality as any car on the inside.

Dual climate control and navigation would be great options.

....me i would personally like to have
WINDOW MOTORS THAT ACTUALLY FREAKING WORK!!!


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I've had 3 4th gens.

ALL of them had power window failures. I figured GM would have fixed them by the time the 2002 came out (after 9 frigging years you'd think they'd figure it out!). Wrong! Then Chevrolet had the nerve to make those piece-o-**** power windows standard (more money for the parts division?).

Right now BOTH motors on my 2002 are on the blink......BOTH! To be honest, this actually is causing me to rethink my opinion of GM.

Logic would dictate that if GM can't make a frigging power window motor, then how can they make a decent car?! Does wonders for the perception of quality! :mad:

Since GM isn't merging with Ford, perhaps GM should at least buy power window motors from them. My '89 T-bird has the originals. Still work great. As did my other '89 when I sold it. Let alone the '93, so it isn't a fluke.

Unfortunately, neither are premature power window motor failures in 4th gens.... or the fact GM never corrected the problem. :mad:

Actually, you're probably not off the wall with that request. If you notice the way alot of GM's new speedometers are designed, they are no longer calibrated strictly for miles per hour and have MPH in large font with KmPH in the small tiny font underneath..... the new speedometers now have just a scale of numbers, and depending on the vehicle the numbers will vary. The Corvette Z06, for example, has a scale of 0-300. 300 KmPH = 186 MPH. The GTO has a speedometer with a scale of 0-240, where 240 KmPH = 149.1 MPH. To read the gauge in English or Metrics just push a button on the dash and the speedometer needle is recalibrated to the measurment selected.

So, in essence, you will probably get that wish. I'd bet the speedometer scale will be 0-240. Then you can impress your date and tell her your car can do 240 miles per hour!

As for what I personally would like for the interior, all I ask is that the design is tastefull and sharp, and the quality is top notch. That means high quality, soft to the touch plastics, no pannel gaps, and solid structure. In other words, a modern interior. No rattles, not even after 100,000 miles (hey, the Japs have been making rattle free interiors for years. Time for America to step up to the plate)

I am going to do that.... i will be on the freeway with a girl at night and be all "Want to know what 200 mph looks like?"


Re: 200mph speedo.


Let's face it, we all know that rear spoilers, RAM air intakes, and fake plastic air vents don't do anything. But it's the perception that counts. I was spurred on by the fact that many Japanese family cars can do 140 mph these days, and some do 155+. So people look at a Camaro with a 140mph speedo and think its only as fast as a Camry, or a Hyundai Sonata. I know, I know, it's BS, but just try and convince them it is. They acutually believe the speedo and not the facts.

Just put the damn 200mph speedo on it. It'll add thousands at resale time. And yeah, Joe Average is an idiot.
Well, i belive that is 155 kph which is less that 100 mph. I could be wrong, but i just dont think that the famly mini van in japan can do that.

I've had 3 4th gens.

ALL of them had power window failures. I figured GM would have fixed them by the time the 2002 came out (after 9 frigging years you'd think they'd figure it out!). Wrong! Then Chevrolet had the nerve to make those piece-o-**** power windows standard (more money for the parts division?).

Right now BOTH motors on my 2002 are on the blink......BOTH! To be honest, this actually is causing me to rethink my opinion of GM.

Logic would dictate that if GM can't make a frigging power window motor, then how can they make a decent car?! Does wonders for the perception of quality! :mad:

Since GM isn't merging with Ford, perhaps GM should at least buy power window motors from them. My '89 T-bird has the originals. Still work great. As did my other '89 when I sold it. Let alone the '93, so it isn't a fluke.

Unfortunately, neither are premature power window motor failures in 4th gens.... or the fact GM never corrected the problem. :mad:

Do you think it's the motor itself, or just the weight of the window that the motor is supposed to move?

I changed the window motor on my sister in law's Chrysler minivan :barf: and it looked similar to the two 3rd Gen, three 4th Gen and one C4 Corvette motors I've changed. Maybe a motor big enough to reliably and durable enough to handle a window of that weight just can't realistically fit in the tight confines of the door? :shrug:

If you drive it off the cliff, the speedo will hit 200 before you do. :)

Well only if the wheels are moving. I don't think the new Camaro will have a pitot tube for air or ground speed.

Steering wheel audio controls.

A car radio option that has at least 6 speakers and good power. Something like the monsoon systems that pontiac has would be real nice.

Well only if the wheels are moving. I don't think the new Camaro will have a pitot tube for air or ground speed.
If you are driving off a cliff, I assumed you would leave your foot down on the gas.

speed is usualy messured by the speed of your front wheels...

No exposed screws, blatent gaps (like around door handles), and molding flash lines.

Oh, and when I push on the interior door panels, and pull on the interior door grab handles, there shouldn't be any flexing and squeaking!

Center console that doesn't gouge around the seatbelt buckles.

Non exposed seat rails if possible.. Or at the very least, no bolt/mounting surfaces that can rust/look nasty.

Actually, all this should be standard for all cars across the lineup.


Colors for the interior.. I like how how the GTO and at least the newer holden have accent colors and such on the dash, door and seat inserts..

It may be nice for adjustable pedals, infinite adjustable tilt and telescopic wheel.

speed is usualy messured by the speed of your front wheels...

A sensor in the transmission.

--a smaller dash (than 4th gens. gets dirty fast and when you're driving into the sun, the reflected light blinds you)

--nice, soft, durable center console, preferably leather

--customizable lighting for guages (like the mustang)

--some sort of extendable headrest, or a taller seat

--something displaying temp. and direction

--radio in the same location and distance as 4th gens. i love most of my interior and the radio is just in perfect reach for me.

--ledgible guage displays

--overall, something that doesn't resemble the Starship Enterprise

I hope they do to the camaro what they did to the tahoes and suburbans. I love my dad's new suburban. The interior is tasteful, soft, and quality. The change from the last gen models, to this new 2007 is excellent.

Screen Navigation, Not OnStar turn-by-turn voice:mad: :rolleyes:

dual zone climate would be a Godsend, as my gf is always cold and I am always hot.

It would be nice if they can have something like a removable type of hard drive that you plug up to your comp's usb and download your songs onto this harddrive you inturn put into the car, like a disc-changer. Then you can control the music with the touch-screen Nav/radio. Might require a CD for you to load the program to allow dl. An owner's manual with a CD inside.
Would be better than a i-Pod hook up since it is hard to navigate that little thing when u are in motion.

My wish list:

Seats
- good bolstering
- adjustable lumbar support
- adjustable headrest
- available leather
- available heated & cooled
- power driver seat with 2-driver position memory
- available power passenger seat
- split/fold rear seat w/ a large, square opening to the trunk

Driver-facing controls
- tilt/telescoping column (power, or at least infinitely adjustable)
- power-adjustable pedals
- thick-rimmed, round, leather-wrapped steering wheel (see rant #1 below)
- wheel-mounted cruise and radio controls

Materials
- leather on the things I touch: armrests, steering wheel, shifter, and seats
- if there are going to be hard-touch plastics, at least put them in places we don't typically look or touch (see rant #2 below)

Console
- at least two power outlets. Three or four would be better.
- no ashtray and no cig lighter! :D
- no cupholders blocking the shifter or the e-brake lever
- no flimsy swing-out cupholders like the front passenger one on 4th gens
- cupholder walls should be more than 1" high (I'm envisioning the rear cupholders in the 4th gens)

Stereo
- available iPod integration (w/ connector in glovebox).
- dash-mounted aux input
- not insanely complicated to upgrade (see rant #3 below)

Instrumentation
- Full set of gauges: speedo, tach, oil pressure, voltage, fuel, and temp are required.
- If there is a supercharged version, boost for sure and maybe IAT too.
- HUD. :yes:
- Driver Information Center w/ instant and average fuel economy, compass, inside and outside temp, etc.
- navigation (with a map on an LCD screen)

HVAC
- dual-zone digital automatic climate control
- vents and optional third zone for rear seat passengers

Other
- express up & down on both windows
- electrochromic rearview mirror
- a good dead pedal (4th gens have it, but I'm mentioning this because it's CRITICAL)
- no converter hump in the front passenger floor pan

Rant 1: What is up with the appeal of flat-bottomed steering wheels? I want mine perfectly round. :confused: If it has a flat bottom, it interferes with years of motor memory.

Rant 2: On my '02, the nicest, softest leather was located on the door, above the arm rest, and behind the pull handle. A place I rarely touch. The console and armrests themselves are hard and comparatively unpleasant. It should have been the opposite!

Rant 3: Are four ohm speakers and DIN-spec openings really that hard to do?

A sensor in the transmission.
Yep.

My wish list:

Seats
- good bolstering
- adjustable lumbar support
- adjustable headrest
- available leather
- available heated & cooled
- power driver seat with 2-driver position memory
- available power passenger seat
- split/fold rear seat w/ a large, square opening to the trunk

Driver-facing controls
- tilt/telescoping column (power, or at least infinitely adjustable)


Rant 1: What is up with the appeal of flat-bottomed steering wheels? I want mine perfectly round. :confused: If it has a flat bottom, it interferes with years of motor memory.


Dude, are you with me if they offered Recaro (either "Sport" or "Style") as an option? You're reading my mind on what I want on my seats.

I agree 1000% w/ infintely adj. tilt and telescoping column.

As far as flat bottomed wheel, it's so that you can keep your hands at 9 and 3 o'clock while turning, and not having the bottom of the wheel or your hand hits your thigh. Otherwise you have to tilt the wheel like a school bus (well, I'm exagarating, but it's not the optimal position). Unless, you have a very small steering wheel. But, that's kinda dangerous and puts your hands further away from the shifter.

This is why I've always liked a steering wheel at 14" (the 4th gen is ~ 15"). The one the current Jetta GLI is my favorite. And its seats (though the ones on RS4 would be my ideal seats).

Basically, I want to sit PERFECTLY comfortable while I'm driving. Driving in a correct position is much more important to me than having a great engined and suspended car that's kinda comfortable to drive (like my current '02).

Having a great seat, right sized steering wheel, and tilt and telescoping wheel would make it much easier to find that perfect, pleasant driving position.

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Wow, for people who want the camaro's weight trimmed to the minimum, you guys sure ask a lot....

I'll second the person who wishes for infinitely adjustable tilt/telescopic steering column, and let me rant about this for a second.......


Every - EVERY - European and Japanese manufacturer has an infinitely adjustable steering column for both rake AND telescope STANDARD on EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE CARS THEY BUILD!!!!!!

GM, it is absolutely pathetic that you still make cars with that notchy, irritating 6 position "comfortilt wheel" from 40 years ago. And without telescopic adjustment (those 1980's Cadillacs don't count because all they did was move the wheel in and out - the column stayed in the same place).

If the Camaro doesn't have a fully adjustable steering column for both tilt and telescope, it may just be enough of a deal breaker for me not to buy the car (can you tell I currently drive a car with that feature?)

If all your requests are granted, there's no way the camaro would weigh less than 3500. And the price would definitely be a LOT more expensive than the Mustang. Then you guys would start complaining that the car is too heavy and expensive, haha.

The mustang gt 500 has 10 speakers in it... a awsome dashlayout, ect.

For me, Performance first, Music second, comfort last. Yes. Last. Yes, I know what it is like to drive long distance on an un-comfortable seat.

I dont care if I have to crank the windows, I dont care if I have to spin a handel to start it, If it is fast, and the sterio is kicking, then its all good.

[QUOTE=frusciante fan;4164048]--a smaller dash (than 4th gens. gets dirty fast and when you're driving into the sun, the reflected light blinds you)

--customizable lighting for guages (like the mustang)/QUOTE]

Use a cleaner that's 'matte' on the dash. I never had a problem with sun reflecting off it in the time I had my '02.


And I'd love to see customizable lighting on the guages.

If all your requests are granted, there's no way the camaro would weigh less than 3500. And the price would definitely be a LOT more expensive than the Mustang. Then you guys would start complaining that the car is too heavy and expensive, haha.

The new Camaro, being built on an all new chasis from the ground up (unlike the Mustang which is built on the Lincoln LS chasis designed circa 1998) is going to have the advantage of high tech design, engineering, and production. If GM knows what they are doing, they can design this car to be competitively weighted, full of features, and still be attractively priced. Think about the Japs. There's Honda Accords on the road with more features than a Cadillac and they still don't reach $30k. GM has got to package the Camaro to be the best of everything GM has to offer today. It will be the second GM car (after the all new Malibu) released in the States on a platform never produced before. An entirely new, modern, and hi-tech design. If GM can't package a great car at a competitive price full of features at high quality and still keep the price affordable, I'd question whether the company itself will ever be competitive again.

thats not quite interior, but ok...:think:

Yeah, I was out of it that day, and totally missed the interior part! Doh!:o So let's try again. I don't think much can be done looks wise. I think I'll have to deal with the guages in the dash. One things been bugging me. We were posting about the /Slash/, a while back. Now I see he's doing vw ads! :mad: And I noticed there are quite few guitar players on the board, what if they put a jack, in the new Camaro for us guitar players! We could plug in, play some jams for the ladies, and serenade em' right outta their mustangs and into a Camaro, just a crazy thought I had.:p

I like the fading interior lighting. I wouldn't even mind a constant, low level light in the cabin. A friend's new Aura has it and it's a nice, very premium feeling, feature.

I'd also love to see body colored inserts or highlights, or at least something to give the car some character on the inside.

And I want a START BUTTON!!!! I don't even mean the totally electronic stuff from the 'vette - nah - just a keyhole that you turn, but then press the start button to fire it up. That too would be an extremely premium feeling feature.

A HUD absolutely tops the list.

The other thing I want to mention is that small, premium feeling features will make this car a legend and do more for GM in the long run. A friend of mine has bought Saturns for 15 years and was ready to bail out on the brand forever after a bad experience at a dealer a couple of weeks ago. BUT, during that visit she drove an Aura and loved it - so she was no looking forward to buying something else - drove an Accord the same night and didn't like it at all. After some prodding, she went to another Saturn dealer and got her Aura - and LOVES it. But aside from all the mechanicals that really impressed her (ride, feel, power, handling), what totally sold her are the little features - the fading lighting, the fact that the backs of the seats have pockets for maps and such, but they don't take away from the legroom that's back there, the hole in the center console for a cell phone power cord, the fact that the cabin is lit up at night enough to find your cell phone but not enough to be a distraction...........all those little features blew her away because she hadn't noticed them during the test drive and found them as she drove her car. Just picture it - for a week she was discovering new and cool things about her car - for a week the car became more and more impressive without the dealer or company having to do a thing. That's what GM needs for the Camaro. Enthusiasts are the easy sell - we'll follow performance. But the on-the-fence folks, the ones that aren't sure - they'll hear about the little features and it will be enough to sway them, if those features are done right.

After looking at the pictures from the thread from the TX State Fair, I just hope that GM either ditches the interior from the concept all together or makes some serious modifications. The more I look at the interior, the less I like it. I would like to see more modern styling all together instead of trying to mix the retro look with modern ques.

And I am in complete agreement with the above post... HUD is an absolute must with a touch screen navi system in close second for me.

After looking at the pictures from the thread from the TX State Fair, I just hope that GM either ditches the interior from the concept all together or makes some serious modifications. The more I look at the interior, the less I like it. I would like to see more modern styling all together instead of trying to mix the retro look with modern ques.

Agreed.... if the concept interior makes it to production I actually will be happy- the 5th Gens will sit on lots forever and will be very cheap to buy.

My interior wish list includes:

Adjustable headrests
side curtain airbags
knee bolster airbags

Manual headlamp controls with an "auto" feature if you so desire. Independent controls for headlamps and fogs, of course.

Theater dimming dome lamps and lamps for the footwells like on 80's Camaros.

A steering wheel without a king sized pillow airbag cover (think Trailblazer sized)

Backlit mirror, lock, and window switches on the doors, please. No "spotlight" effect from a 194 bulb.

Full readout/driver info center on the dash.

HEATED SEATS.


Please, GM, think more GTO and less Cobalt ;)

Key in the dash. One of the things I loved about 68's, and hated about 69's. Interior lighting is really nice in the Pontiac G6, does give the car a premium feeling to it, when driving at night. The A/C vents in the G6 are also pretty neat and very much remind me of the ball vents on 67/68's too. The color change dash lighting could also get some potential Mustang buyers to give Camaro a second look. A start buttom for the top models (Z/28,SS,etc.) would be cool too. HUD is nice. Body colored int. accents ( like GTO, maybe a little more) would be nice.

I'd like to see:

1. At least GTO quality fit and finish.

2. At least GTO quality seats.

3. Automatic Climate Control. IS THIS THAT HARD? WHY DID THE GTO'S NOT GET THIS? It is unreasonable to spend over 25,000 on a car and not get this at least as an option. Optional Dual-Zone would be even nicer. C'mon GM, it's standard on the WRX! Get with the game.

4. Keep the retro set up. Please. That's one of the things I love about the concept. The 4 gauges down by the shifter and the two big "you only need these two to drive" gauges on the dash.

5. Optional Heated Seats. I probably wouldn't opt for them, but how about looping the dual-zone and heated seats into a premium package of sorts.

Leave navigation as an option. I've had cars both with and without. I personally prefer without unless it is the last option selected. Nav, and HUD, and things like push button start seem to be big on this thread. But at the same time, would you take HUD if because of the cost they had to recycle the Ion or Cobalt steering wheel in yet another car? I'm trying to stay reasonable with my requests.

I've never seen a point to dual zone climate control (at least not in any normal sized passenger car), i sure as hell would't want the weight penalty of the extra controls, ducts and mixing dorrs, etc. I don't care if it's only 10lbs, that's 10lbs that serves no useful purpose IMO.

I also don't realy understand the fascination with auto climate control. I've never been in a car where the auto climate control did a good job of actually regulating comfort, you still had to adjust the temperature desired up or down to truly be comfortable, just as easy to adjust a generic red/blue slider as a digital 'temperature' that has no actual bearing on what temperature the car is

I've never seen a point to dual zone climate control (at least not in any normal sized passenger car), i sure as hell would't want the weight penalty of the extra controls, ducts and mixing dorrs, etc. I don't care if it's only 10lbs, that's 10lbs that serves no useful purpose IMO.

I also don't realy understand the fascination with auto climate control. I've never been in a car where the auto climate control did a good job of actually regulating comfort, you still had to adjust the temperature desired up or down to truly be comfortable, just as easy to adjust a generic red/blue slider as a digital 'temperature' that has no actual bearing on what temperature the car is
Our 2000 Bonneville has dual zone digital climate control. Aside from the fact that there is only one fan, and that therefore the fan speed setting applies to both zones, I have no complaints. Set the knob at 72 and within a couple minutes, I'm comfortable, no matter what. I'd be willing to bet that it's pretty darn close to 72 degrees in the car at that point.

I've never seen a point to dual zone climate control (at least not in any normal sized passenger car), i sure as hell would't want the weight penalty of the extra controls, ducts and mixing dorrs, etc. I don't care if it's only 10lbs, that's 10lbs that serves no useful purpose IMO.

I also don't realy understand the fascination with auto climate control. I've never been in a car where the auto climate control did a good job of actually regulating comfort, you still had to adjust the temperature desired up or down to truly be comfortable, just as easy to adjust a generic red/blue slider as a digital 'temperature' that has no actual bearing on what temperature the car is

Girls. My G35 also has only one fan , but a girl can sit in my passenger seat with the heat blasting on her and I can sit on my side with the A/C running cold. It makes a difference when you know that the next complaint out of her mouth is being responded to with a.......wait, I don't know if I can really say that here.

i would just prefer a good sound system. i think 6 speakers would be a minimum, but should have maybe 8. plus a 8 or 10 inch sub in the trunk.

1) 6-speed automatic with paddle shifters. Needs to be the type Ferrari uses and not the electronically controlled type that doesn't always shift/shifts slow.

2) GPS navigation. I would like it DVD based so you don't have to pay a subscription for service.

3) cupholders in the backseat area so the cups don't have to be in my way.

4) nice thick leather instead of the type that they used on the '97-'02 Camaros.

The Camaro isn't supposed to be that fancy! I don't understand asking for an overpriced factory stereo system, I'd rather upgrade that myself for cheaper with the brands and type of components that I chose. I also am not interested in a navigation/stereo/climate controls/whatever else they cram into one unit. It makes it tougher to upgrade and takes out several components when it eventually breaks. I'd want attention to be focused on making the interior pieces fit well and aestetically pleasing, comfortable seating similar to 4th gen firebird seats, and a very confortable, functional center console. All it needs is functioning heat, not 2-zone this and that. Power window motors that are up to the task are critical, this problem has gone on way too long.

The Camaro isn't supposed to be that fancy! I don't understand asking for an overpriced factory stereo system, I'd rather upgrade that myself for cheaper with the brands and type of components that I chose. I also am not interested in a navigation/stereo/climate controls/whatever else they cram into one unit. It makes it tougher to upgrade and takes out several components when it eventually breaks. I'd want attention to be focused on making the interior pieces fit well and aestetically pleasing, comfortable seating similar to 4th gen firebird seats, and a very confortable, functional center console. All it needs is functioning heat, not 2-zone this and that. Power window motors that are up to the task are critical, this problem has gone on way too long.

Why couldn't they do all of what you want as well as offer the dual zone climate control - navi system - sound system - etc? Last I checked these were all options on the GM cars that offer them (except maybe the caddy) so no one would force yu to buy them anyway.

Do you think that offering these extras will prevent them from focusing their attention on the rest of the interior like you mentioned? I don't think they are mutually exclusive.

By the way.... everyone who keeps going on about how dual zone climate control is a worthless/pointless option is obviously not married, or will not have the wife in the Camaro at the same time... ;)

I'm starting to think they should do a Buick Grand National version of this car and make it a luxury sports car, since so many people are against optioning up the Camaro.

You have to understand that the people who are going to buy fully optioned Camaros will be like 35-45. Not the 25-35 group. At that age they will want creature comforts.

Locations for 2 sets of front speakers in the kick panels(mid range and tweeter), and location for one sub(10") and amp in the back that can easily be removed. I'll buy my own aftermarket speakers and head unit. If the speakers can't be put in the kick panels, then the doors is my 2nd choice.

Lightweight cloth seats, non powered

Power windows, power mirrors, remote keyless power locks

Lots of Gauges: 150 MPH analog but with a digital LED output also (for anything above 150), Tach, Oil Pressure, Collant temp, battery voltage, fuel level, transmission temp, fuel pressure. Also, would like the option to change guage colors with the press of a button and have the color red be one of the colors since red seems to be the easiest on the eyes at night.

Digital LED compass mounted overhead with outside air temperature displayed

Window and door lock switches located in the 4th gen locations, trunk release switch located in the 4th gen firebird location.

Center console with compartment. Glove box in dash.

All black interior, no dark gray crap.

Why couldn't they do all of what you want as well as offer the dual zone climate control - navi system - sound system - etc? Last I checked these were all options on the GM cars that offer them (except maybe the caddy) so no one would force yu to buy them anyway.

Do you think that offering these extras will prevent them from focusing their attention on the rest of the interior like you mentioned? I don't think they are mutually exclusive.

By the way.... everyone who keeps going on about how dual zone climate control is a worthless/pointless option is obviously not married, or will not have the wife in the Camaro at the same time... ;)

I'm mostly concerned with them driving up the costs of the vehicle. You bring up a good point of them being options, but wouldn't adding more options and variety to the build make the assembly costs go up for the model as a whole? I also honestly don't think most customers getting a Camaro would want all that stuff, but maybe I'm wrong. For comparison, what kind of option structure does the Mustang have?

I'm mostly concerned with them driving up the costs of the vehicle. You bring up a good point of them being options, but wouldn't adding more options and variety to the build make the assembly costs go up for the model as a whole? I also honestly don't think most customers getting a Camaro would want all that stuff, but maybe I'm wrong. For comparison, what kind of option structure does the Mustang have?

It depends on how much they can use from other models. If there is a geeat deal of engineering and design that has to go into it then yes it could drive up the price; however if they just modify things like the dual climate control; navigation; HUD; etc from current models, then I would have to assume that the added costs would be rather minimal since these products already exist. The only added cost would be to engineer the car around them, which I don't think would be very significant as long as they engineer it with them in mind from the beginning since they have to re-design the entire interior anyway. Plus, I would assume that the people ordering these options absorb the majority of the cost anyway. I mean, $1,500 for a navigation system.... that is well above the actual cost of the system.

I don't think a single one of us is going to buy a Buick or Pontiac version of the Camaro just because we want GPS navigation or some other high-end options.

I think we all want the CAMARO.

I don't think a single one of us is going to buy a Buick or Pontiac version of the Camaro just because we want GPS navigation or some other high-end options.

I think we all want the CAMARO.
On the contrary -- if Buick or Pontiac has a car that performs pretty much the same and has additional features I want, that's what I'll buy.

I didn't read through all the posts, but who here wants the auto window switches on the center console again!!!(besides me):)

I didn't read through all the posts, but who here wants the auto window switches on the center console again!!!(besides me):)
Not me. I've never liked them there in other cars.

Not me either. To me, its just nice to have all the door power functions(power mirrors, power windows, power locks) in one location - the door panel.

Not me either. To me, its just nice to have all the door power functions(power mirrors, power windows, power locks) in one location - the door panel.

Ditto. I don't like switches by the shifter and/or drink holder. Spill your drink and all of a sudden you have to replace a bunch of switches I bet! :eek:

Didnt read them all but I would like to see the dash stay CLEAN not cluttered, and definetly no BLANK panels. :rolleyes: These are good for a few, but what about the people who will never add anything to fill those panels, now they have a cheap "no options" looking dash! All i can think of is maybe keep the hump out of the passengers floor! :cool:

Yeah, no blank panels. I'm never adding gauges or any of that crap. If you guys need to add guages, remove the radio because your car should be music to your ears!

The mustang gt 500 has 10 speakers in it... a awsome dashlayout, ect.

For me, Performance first, Music second, comfort last. Yes. Last. Yes, I know what it is like to drive long distance on an un-comfortable seat.

I dont care if I have to crank the windows, I dont care if I have to spin a handel to start it, If it is fast, and the sterio is kicking, then its all good.



preach it brother but im a big dude so i need to be somewhat comfortable :D

Music second? Who the hell actually listens to the stereo in their car here? I listen to the engine and the exhaust -- they're music to my ears. My Corolla is what deserves to have 10 speakers in it, that way I could distract myself from the way the engine groans and the exhaust sputters.

And since when did the Mustang have an awesome dash layout? It has a hard plastic layout that reminds me of the Need For Speed games at arcades.

I want an amazing interior that is leather wrapped and soft. And not only that, I want the damn car's interior to have the styling of a Chevy on the inside. Ford and Dodge both have some of the worst interior styling in the entire automotive business! Look at the current Ford Explorer if you don't understand why I say that! :eek:

Alot of people mentioned new things they would like to see, however almost noone mentioned ANYTHING towards improvements from the previouse 4th Gen's...

#1 - Window Motors that last the lifetime of the fricken car, it is ridiculous that the corvettes doors are relatively the same size as ours aswell as the windows yet their window motors are superior to ours...

#2 - Lighter Doors, The corvettes doors are the same size as the 4th Gen doors and even with all the accessories, they're FAR FAR lighter...

#3 - Squeaks and Rattles, Get rid of them... It's year 2009 for crying out loud and the 4th gen Interiors look as if they were made by Snap-Tite

#4 - Cup Holders are nice, until they completely block the shifter when in use. Make sure the shifter is still easily accessable with the cups in their holders...

#5 - A Dash that WON'T glare our windshields when driving into the sun, this is a safety hazard.

#6 - Backseats that can actually be used, I'm not saying make it a sedan but by looking at the size of the 5th Gen, those backseats should ATLEAST avoid cramping the occupant. Think it's impossible? Look at the Chrysler PT Cruiser, it has a relatively comfortable backseat for a 2 door coupe.

Me personally? 200 MPH Speedometer is useless because unless you're on a Speedway, you're not getting that fast, heck the dealership isn't even going to give us tires RATED to even touch speeds of that category. 165 is good enough. I don't need a speedometer to prove my power because it's all performed at the command of my right foot, and once the passenger is thrown into the rear seats, I'm pretty sure he'll get the point.

I want more function out of this car than form...

I will once he puts a few grand into it. I will prolly do the same thing. Mine needs to do have a 200 mph speedo

anyone that goes 200 on the street should be shot.

and yea, tell me your going to bring it to a track and go 200.. tell me where that track is ;) :rolleyes:

cory

anyone that goes 200 on the street should be shot.

and yea, tell me your going to bring it to a track and go 200.. tell me where that track is ;) :rolleyes:

cory

Exactly, a 200 MPH speedometer would be totally useless in this type of car... It's fast, yes but it's no Super Car and will never be and shouldn't really even be associated in any way with that category.

The only purpose it serves in the corvette is to give drivers that exotic feel, but even Stock C6's can't touch 200...

almost noone mentioned ANYTHING towards improvements from the previouse 4th Gen's...

#1 - Window Motors that last the lifetime of the fricken car, it is ridiculous that the corvettes doors are relatively the same size as ours aswell as the windows yet their window motors are superior to ours...
Did you read the thread? Thinks like that have been mentioned a few times already, and seconded by lots of others. Besides, the spirit of the thread wasn't about bitching about 4th gens -- many of us think it's safe to assume that GM will fix all of the things that we love to hate about our cars. The point of this thread was to talk about features/amenities/designs to be used in the new car.

#2 - Lighter Doors, The corvettes doors are the same size as the 4th Gen doors and even with all the accessories, they're FAR FAR lighter...
This is a fine idea... but you do know that Corvette has fiberglass doors, while 4th gen doors are steel, right?

#3 - Squeaks and Rattles, Get rid of them... It's year 2009 for crying out loud and the 4th gen Interiors look as if they were made by Snap-Tite
I don't know where you see a resemblance to Snap-Tite ( http://www.snap-tite.com/), but squeaks and rattles have also been mentioned already. :)

#4 - Cup Holders are nice, until they completely block the shifter when in use. Make sure the shifter is still easily accessable with the cups in their holders...
Totally agree. Again, you're not the first to say it.

#5 - A Dash that WON'T glare our windshields when driving into the sun, this is a safety hazard.
Agree.

#6 - Backseats that can actually be used, I'm not saying make it a sedan but by looking at the size of the 5th Gen, those backseats should ATLEAST avoid cramping the occupant. Think it's impossible? Look at the Chrysler PT Cruiser, it has a relatively comfortable backseat for a 2 door coupe.
Are you seriously comparing the back seat room of a two-door sports car with a retro micro-station-wagon? It's all about roof height. If you want a low-slung roofline, you're going to sacrifice rear seat room.

FYI, PT Cruisers have four doors:
http://images.consumerguide.com/autoreview/400x266/2005-Chrysler-PT-Cruiser-05101451990001.JPG

PT Cruiser convertibles have two doors... but I don't think you were talking about convertibles.

:)

Did you read the thread? Thinks like that have been mentioned a few times already, and seconded by lots of others. Besides, the spirit of the thread wasn't about bitching about 4th gens -- many of us think it's safe to assume that GM will fix all of the things that we love to hate about our cars. The point of this thread was to talk about features/amenities/designs to be used in the new car.


This is a fine idea... but you do know that Corvette has fiberglass doors, while 4th gen doors are steel, right?


I don't know where you see a resemblance to Snap-Tite ( http://www.snap-tite.com/), but squeaks and rattles have also been mentioned already. :)


Totally agree. Again, you're not the first to say it.


Agree.


Are you seriously comparing the back seat room of a two-door sports car with a retro micro-station-wagon? It's all about roof height. If you want a low-slung roofline, you're going to sacrifice rear seat room.

FYI, PT Cruisers have four doors:
http://images.consumerguide.com/autoreview/400x266/2005-Chrysler-PT-Cruiser-05101451990001.JPG

PT Cruiser convertibles have two doors... but I don't think you were talking about convertibles.

:)


Okay Okay you got me, but I was refering to the convertable cruiser, my sister owns a PT Cruiser GT Convertable, Purple...

As for the snap-tite resemblence, see the center vents right above the radio? That entire piece extends from the dash to the Cigar Lighter, it can be pulled out with relative ease and along with it comes tumbling out the radio... ...

actually, the 4th gen doors are fiberglass with a steel impact bar inside. Being a thirdgen owner, I thought they were steel too until I recently parted one out.

As for the snap-tite resemblence, see the center vents right above the radio? That entire piece extends from the dash to the Cigar Lighter, it can be pulled out with relative ease and along with it comes tumbling out the radio... ...

I don't see the resemblance.
http://homepage.mac.com/jakerobb/camaro/medium/10.jpghttp://www.snap-titequickdisconnects.com/images/Home_Color.jpg

I'm pretty sure the stock radio doesn't "come tumbling out" when you pull the bezel. Now, if you've done a half-assed installation of an aftermarket head unit, I could believe that it would come tumbling out...

I don't see the resemblance.
http://homepage.mac.com/jakerobb/camaro/medium/10.jpghttp://www.snap-titequickdisconnects.com/images/Home_Color.jpg

I'm pretty sure the stock radio doesn't "come tumbling out" when you pull the bezel. Now, if you've done a half-assed installation of an aftermarket head unit, I could believe that it would come tumbling out...

nope, stock radio had 4 screws holding it in

I bet he is referring to SnapTite Revell-Monogram models. The type that are plastic and don't require glue.
http://i14.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/7f/b1/3415_1.JPG

The 4th Gen Dash does have a few pieces that snap together. Would you rather have 100 screws that hold the dash together like the 3rd gen dash does. Those screws and bolts tend to loosen over time.

You're going to have little squeaks and rattles either way, it can be fixed somewhat by putting a little padding or thin foam inbetween the pieces that are causing "noises".

A boost gauge....because it would be sweet to have a factory supercharged or turbocharded 6.0 L Camaro to retake the streets of America with.

I bet he is referring to SnapTite Revell-Monogram models. The type that are plastic and don't require glue.
http://i14.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/7f/b1/3415_1.JPG

Bingo, and nice find!... I might have to purchase one for Xmas... :p

I don't see the resemblance.

I'm pretty sure the stock radio doesn't "come tumbling out" when you pull the bezel. Now, if you've done a half-assed installation of an aftermarket head unit, I could believe that it would come tumbling out...

On my 97 it did when I went to have an aftermarket system installed, stock radio nearly jumped out the pocket to the point where the only thing retaining it was its plugs.

I've yet to remove it on my 01... I'll try it and see...

Alot of people mentioned new things they would like to see, however almost noone mentioned ANYTHING towards improvements from the previouse 4th Gen's...


#5 - A Dash that WON'T glare our windshields when driving into the sun, this is a safety hazard.

In it's defense...

This would totally be the fault of the owner of the car. Are you using a cleaner that has a MATTE finish?

I never once had the dash glare in the windshield.

In it's defense...

This would totally be the fault of the owner of the car. Are you using a cleaner that has a MATTE finish?

I never once had the dash glare in the windshield.

agreed

In it's defense...

This would totally be the fault of the owner of the car. Are you using a cleaner that has a MATTE finish?

I never once had the dash glare in the windshield.

MATTE?? :confused:

I have Armoralled it a few times in the past, none recent, now I just roll a lint brush and use rubbing alcohol to get the remaining particles and this happens maybe twice a month? I'm pretty sure that the alcohol would have disolved the Armoral by now though and I still get a pretty heavy dosage of sun glare...

MATTE?? :confused:

I have Armoralled it a few times in the past, none recent, now I just roll a lint brush and use rubbing alcohol to get the remaining particles and this happens maybe twice a month? I'm pretty sure that the alcohol would have disolved the Armoral by now though and I still get a pretty heavy dosage of sun glare...

Matte= Not Shiney and wet looking.

Armoral has Matte Finish products.

I honestly have no idea why that would be happening if you don't Armoral it.

Do you mean you get a slight reflection of the dash itself on the windshield sometimes? (If so that's not a glare since glare would mean a blinding reflection of light.) I know I had that happen on occasion. But nothing so bad as to complain about it.

Would be the Red one in the bottom left hand corner on this page with the RS http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468516&page=2 i hope they offer the same color interior as the exterior.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned these yet:

1. Definately Heads Up display as in the 'vettes and the 04 grand prix's(at least my friend's did)

2. *Option to have 3 or 5 pt. harness instead of seat belt

I'm surprised no one has mentioned these yet:

1. Definately Heads Up display

I requested HUD in post #39. I didn't check, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't the first.

Be cool to have audio controls on the steering wheel

Be cool to have audio controls on the steering wheel
Pretty safe to assume that features we had on the 4th gens will be there on the 5th gen. :)

Except for T-tops (I know, not interior). :(

I was going through and pricing options and building a Corbvette on the Chevy website. What I want for the new Camaro is the ability to build it how I want it and not necessarily have to get an entire package of options just to get the one option I want. I absolutely hate this about GMs current system.

For example, if I were to buy a Corvette I would really just want the 1LT package, but I also want a HUD, but the HUD is only available with the 3LT package that is $5000 more. GM needs to have more of an a-la-carte option offering.

Having a car built option by option is very expensive. Try building a Toyota Corolla and you'll see that. :eek: $109 for a freakin' cargo net. $99 for a cheap-ass $5 pinstripe down the side.

Having a car built option by option is very expensive. Try building a Toyota Corolla and you'll see that. :eek: $109 for a freakin' cargo net. $99 for a cheap-ass $5 pinstripe down the side.

I think that is a little different becasue, at least for the cargo net, it is a "dealer installed option" and they really rape ypu on that stuff as a way to make back some of themoney they lose negotiating the price of the car.

Little story - When I bought my wife's Civic recently we went to a dealer that had the lowest price bar-none of any dealer... it turned out to be about $500 UNDER invoice. Well, when we began arranging the details of purchasing it the price all of the sudden was $1,500 more than what he quoted me. When asked why he replied that they install certain accessories right as the car gets off the truck... I asked if he could sell me a Civic right off the truck without the accessories, and he said no. So i went to another dealership.

As for the Camaro, I am not saying they should have ALL options offered a-la-carte. I understand the logistics behind that would be difficult, but some of the more expensive options should come on their own such as the navigation system and HUD. I don't see why that would be so difficult.

I can agree with that then. The idea of all options being separate is insane, but certain ones being separate isn't.

I'd like paddle-shifters to be an individual option. And... there is no way in hell I'm getting stuck with heated seats in some package deal.

I'd like paddle-shifters to be an individual option. And... there is no way in hell I'm getting stuck with heated seats in some package deal.

Exactly. For $5000 more than the 1LT package witht he Vette you get:

- Audio system: Bose premium seven-speaker system w/ 6-disc Changer
- Head-Up Display
- Memory Package: includes two-position presets for drivers such as six-way power driver seat, telescoping steering wheel and outside mirror positions
- Auto-dimming rearview mirror
- Mirrors, outside: power, heated, include driver-side auto-dimming feature, body-color
- Heated Seats
- Steering column: power telescoping, includes manual Tilt-Wheel
- Steering wheel: includes mounted audio controls
- Universal Home Remote transmitter

IMO charge $500-1000 for the HUD and I am happy.

I want heated seats. :)

I want heated seats. :)

After being spoiled by those in my Grand Prix, I wouldn't mind having them.:D

no airbags

What are our chances of getting Navigation? Did you know that Mustang just started offering DVD Navigation??

I'd say Navigation is highly likely. It better be, because I won't buy a new Camaro without it. I'll just buy a used GTO if that's the case. :p

What are our chances of getting Navigation? Did you know that Mustang just started offering DVD Navigation??

I would agree that is it a very likely option. It seems these days DVD Navigation has become a standard option on most cars... I would figure that 2 more years down the road they will be a little more affordable too.

After having a navigation system i will never go back. Before I got one I was one of those people that didn't see the need for it and thought it was a waste of money. Then my wife wanted one and I reluctantly agreed.... now I will never go without one, whether it be factory or aftermarket.

If it is only offered in the top of the line package on the Camaro, like it is on the Corvette, then i will probably forego the option and just get an aftermarket one installed, assuming the radio is more modular and not designed like it is on the concept...

What happens when they change a road and the navi doesn't update?

What happens when they change a road and the navi doesn't update?
updates are on DVD

PLEASE have the common sense to provide a padded rest in a comfortable position to put our elbows!!!!! So few cars these days provide this. Even my wife's Volvo S-60 does'nt have it despite the interior looking so beautiful. After a half hour on the freeway you're looking for coats etc. to put under your elbows for comfort.

If steering wheel mounted radio controls are available (hopefully) make them easy to use....like the ones in my 2004 GMC truck. The ones in my 2007 CTS make no sense and don't give you the option of scrolling through radio stations that are not saved in memory. That totally sucks when out of town because you're right back to using the scan button on the radio itself again, so the steering wheel buttons are of no use (other than the goofy volume control button).

These are some of the things (standard or optional) I'd like to see:
- HID headlights
- HUD
- heated/cooled seats in both cloth & leather
- steering wheel stereo controls
- express down & UP power windows for ALL windows
- one touch button for lowering windows & top
- automatic, dual zone climate control
- cloth top with glass rear window w/defroster
- interior courtesy lamps (incl. trunk & hood lights)
- navigation system
- infotainment system with MP3 jack, iPod jack, USB port, internal hard drive, 2 DVD slots (1 CD/DVD for music, 1 DVD for nav), ability to rip tracks to the HD, ability to play MP3 CDs & DVDs, Bluetooth capability, sat radio
- driver information system
- power windows, locks, seats, mirrors (of course)
- power pedals
- auto start (like in Colorados)electrically heated lower winshield
- dual, lit vanity mirrors w/extenders and secondary shades for sides
- soft padded dash, door panels, armrests
- carpeted lower door panels
- hideaway wipers

That's all I can think of for now.

The interior is *very* important to me
I didn't read anyone else's opinions, but here are mine.
I a great interior like the GTO. Namely the seats, steering wheel are my favorite things.
Optional Navi system
Good seat motors
GOOD WINDOW MOTORS
HUD! (not part of some 5k package either, please.)
Well thoughtout and well placed interior.
Please let it have real gauges not dummy gauges.
Also, give it more than just a couple gauges, the GTO doesn't have a Oil pressure gauge.
The option to display the speed digitally on the DIC is nice
A boost gauge that goes *much* higher then stock :D
Also for Godsakes NOT TO MUCH RETRO on the interior. Modern interior, with retro cues here and there.
bluetooth would be nice
A nice sound system would be nice. Somthing similar to the Cobalt SS system perhaps? A small sub in the trunk or somthing

You just reminded me of something. I don't want to feel short-changed when the new Camaro comes out. I remember being very jealous when the GTO came out and had embroidered seats, GTO fuel rail covers, and I believe GTO on painted calipers too. I want that to be optional on the new Camaro. It sucks feeling like the Corvette's inferior little brother who has to go to the aftermarket to get what accessories he wants.

I don't know if anyone's familiar with the Mustangs 'My Color' system for the gauges, you can basically change the color to a few main colors but you can also use the RGB scale. I think now they have ambient lighting all over the car that matches what you have set up. It would be cool if we could get something like this in the Camaro, but also have the ability to change the color of the HUD as well (if we get the HUD).

I would also like to see 'Camaro' stitched on the seats.

I don't know if anyone's familiar with the Mustangs 'My Color' system for the gauges, you can basically change the color to a few main colors but you can also use the RGB scale. I think now they have ambient lighting all over the car that matches what you have set up. It would be cool if we could get something like this in the Camaro, but also have the ability to change the color of the HUD as well (if we get the HUD).

I would also like to see 'Camaro' stitched on the seats.

It's been mentioned. (The color system.) And I really hope something similar ends up in the Camaro. I love being able to customize little touches like that.

I would like to see a non-retro interior and possible navigation would be nice to see. Hmm...and umm...nice looking gauge LIGHTING, I dont like the lighting on my cars stock gauges, but dont really feel like changing them.

There are a few essentials that I would like for the new Camaro interior. I would like to hear some more suggestions from others too.

1) A 200mph speedometer.

2) A special cubby (mounting area) for a radar detector that can't be seen from the outside of the car.

3) A place for a laser jammer or Bearcat in the dash.

4) Blank spots to put accessory switches on the dashboard (to facilitate the above). Accessory switches could be sold by dealers for aftersale installation. Trucks have them, why not the Camaro?

5) A leather covered, nicely padded centre armrest.sounds like your affraid of being pulled over??!!
the only thing i really want is the dvd Navigation, leather wrapped steering wheel like the concept,maybe leather dash, nice bucket seats with attached headrest(i dont like the adjustable ones), and maybe those lights that highlight the door panels. i think they are a nice touch.

nice bucket seats with attached headrest(i dont like the adjustable ones),

I second that notion. I HATE adjustable headrests. They look bad, and they're just plain annoying.

yeah,the seats in the camaro are just what i like, and they make it look good.

I'm not overly greedy, just a few simple features above the normal stuff:

Full one touch auto up and down for the windows, standard on all models/trims.

If the doors are going to be frameless around the windows, make the windows "slip" as you open and close the doors so they seal better into the weather stripping (when you pull on the door handle, the window quickly goes down about 1/2" and then when you shut the door the windows slip back up into the weather stripping).

Above all, the interior color of the first prototype (solid black leather with orange piping) should be at least optional.

That's about it. Other than that, I'm not really wishing for massaging seats or shoe buffers or other ultra luxury gizmos. This is a Camaro. Not a Maybach. Perhaps we should keep that in mind when asking GM to make 97 way 5 position memory seats standard.

Oh, I almost forgot: a real dead pedal, big enough for my size 10 1/2 boot. Not a molded piece of carpeting or an extra little hump in the floor, but a real, solid metal full size dead pedal, spaced and angled properly for spirited driving and shifting.

as silly as it sounds a light for the back seat. the new mustangs don't and you can't see crap in the back at night.

I would like the ability to change the color of my gauge's lights. I would also love music controls on the wheel. seats the some how changed angle with the car around a turn like a boat side to side on the water so that you don't fly out of your seet around a turn. The steering wheel from the concept. I would like to have a subwoofer in the center some where (I am dreaming ofcourse). options for massage seats for those long drives, and night vision (kidding ofcourse).

I'd like the basic neccessities made with parts that work good and will last.
Seat edges that last 10years.
Fast reliable window motors.
Tilt column that doesn't require retightening every year.
Decent interior lighting, especially for door handles, any push buttons etc.
A verticle extension on the sun visors for shorter passengers(wifes).
Multicolor HUD
NAV
A good driver info center, milage clalc's, trip etc...
Manual redundant trunk release.
Remote start w/auto warm up HVAC setting.
Good fitting quality floor mats.
An electric/coil quick front defroster.

just a few......wishes......

I don't have that high requirments for the interior, would be nice with an audio input on the stereo, which I'm pretty sure will be there in one form or other. Other then that I REALLY want them to stay close to the retro styling, a HUD for decent money would be nice. But above all though. I. Want. That. Shifter. That. Is. On. The. Concept. Or something very similar. If it's not similar that'll be one of the few things I'm modding on the car.