CRX race

Yesterday while I was driving I found a car that was sanded down to the metel driving around, my first thought was "thats gonna suck if it rains" Then I notice he has no interior,no dash. So we get to a red light, and im getting ready, light turns green, I spin argh, he gets a couple lenghts because once I start spinning gotta let off, then we went to the interstate. I put it on the floor once so he would get the drift. So next time I do it we both **** down, (me shifting down first) and he comes flying by me going through gears like theres no tomarrow. At this point im thinking that it is a full race car with a clear coat over the metel. So we do this about 5 more times, and it just gets worse from there, I had no chance. The odd part is I heard no turbo or anything of that sort. So he was stomping us on motor, alwell. Was funny because once we was done I see he had been to the drag strip from the numbers in his window. Was crappy to lose but was cool to see.

You are not suppost to tell any person that **** like that happens. Kinda like crapping your pants. You dont tell no one. Personally i probally wouldnt leave mt room for a week after having a rice maker kick my arse. Race car or not. Those cars only push about 300-400 hp with out fi. And that is all high end hp. American cars kill them in low end and high end. My thought on this, theres no excuse to get killed by a egg-roll on four wheels and some engine mods.

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You got to take the good with the bad, who said this car was FI or not FI. Non the less 300 to 400 horse is 60 to 160 more than I have, not to mention he had serious weight reductions. Its ok though, if I put that much money into my motor, id have double his power :P

You said it wasn't fi. I've killed plenty of rice rickets with way more power than me. Cuz buy the time they vtec(lol) kicks in I'm at home sleeping. All their power is at the last of their rpms. And it doesn't last long. Even on nitrous I still kill them. Displacment will always win. Torque baby torque. I think it has something to do with the driver.

You said it wasn't fi. I've killed plenty of rice rickets with way more power than me. Cuz buy the time they vtec(lol) kicks in I'm at home sleeping. All their power is at the last of their rpms. And it doesn't last long. Even on nitrous I still kill them. Displacment will always win. Torque baby torque. I think it has something to do with the driver. I never said it wasn't FI unless you count "stomping us on motor". Non the less, how much driver error can an automatic have?

Believe me, I have seen people mess anything up. You said you didnt hear a turbo or anything. Either way man, its a fricken hot wheels car with a rice cooker.

So are you seriously saying that a stock 94z will beat out a heavily modified crx?

CRX's weigh nothing.. my gf has one.... I cant image how that thing would run stripped down with a big motor :)

Friend of mine has an H22 motor in his crx. Completly gutted, stock internals on the motor, just intake/header/exhaust. It ran 13.1 at 107 on 14" slicks.

Dont count the little cars out ;p

I will out run a rice cooker. LOL. Running backwards.

Wow, a classic F-body fan boy! Kinda sound like a Honda owner, but different... :D

Are you talking about me. The only honda I ever owned was a 2005cbr 1000rr. That will smoke anyone hear except for maybe tanner.

Friend of mine has an H22 motor in his crx. Completly gutted, stock internals on the motor, just intake/header/exhaust. It ran 13.1 at 107 on 14" slicks.

Dont count the little cars out ;p What do them things weigh when there gutted out?

You are not suppost to tell any person that **** like that happens. Kinda like crapping your pants. You dont tell no one. Personally i probally wouldnt leave mt room for a week after having a rice maker kick my arse. Race car or not. Those cars only push about 300-400 hp with out fi. And that is all high end hp. American cars kill them in low end and high end. My thought on this, theres no excuse to get killed by a egg-roll on four wheels and some engine mods.

LoL your not to smart are you. How many 4 cylinder hondas out there make 300-400 horse without fi?

And a 400 horse honda crx that weights under 2000 lbs will absolutely smoke a 4th gen f-body that makes anything less than 350 horse.

Actually I have seen a few. Most of witch I have killed. Im telling you them damn things only have power at high rpms and their power d=band is very small. Why are there poeple in here defending them anyways.

You are not suppost to tell any person that **** like that happens. Kinda like crapping your pants. You dont tell no one. Personally i probally wouldnt leave mt room for a week after having a rice maker kick my arse. Race car or not. Those cars only push about 300-400 hp with out fi. And that is all high end hp. American cars kill them in low end and high end. My thought on this, theres no excuse to get killed by a egg-roll on four wheels and some engine mods.
If it's rice and it's kicking your @ss, what does that mean for you?

Just because it's an import doesn't make it rice. A fast car is a fast car, deal with it... :confused:

I will admit that there are fast rice rickets, but I have never had the discust of actually seeing one in person. When i first got my Z28 i had something like 350 rwhp. I raced a civic with 250 hp with a 200 shot and spanked him. Ive killed preludes, accords, crx's, and rx7's. All with very high hp #'s and the only car that gave me a run for my money was the 350z. He won 1 of 3 races and i barley, i mean barley got the last one. Other than that I have never had a rice maker come with in a cars length of me. So, I guess trying to convince me that American muscle can get beat by a car with less power than my motorcycle is going to be very hard.

I have a hard time believing that you, in a 350 hp Camaro, beat a 250 hp plus 200 shot Civic.

Even if you did, so what? There's plenty of Civics, 3000GTs, and a whole hoast of imports murdering domestics. Sure, only the VR4 3000GT really has a chance stock for stock, but so what? They're modified cars, ours are modded cars. If you have a supercharger you'd say it was pure American power. If they had a turbo, you'd claim what, the little ricer desperate to make more power from his 4cyl? There guys are generally making more HP per cylander than most of us, so how can we bash them for that?

Come on, if a person put an LS7 in a new Chevy Aveo, would you go touting it as pure American power? These guys are just putting the most powerful engines in the cars that make them go the fastest. Sound familiar? If not, look at the American cars of the late 60s.

This is why compareing non stock cars is pointless, once they go unstock its who ever has more money will win, well a combintion of more money and driver ability. In the end guys, a v8 top fuel dragster will beat all 4 bangers :)

I will admit that there are fast rice rickets, but I have never had the discust of actually seeing one in person. When i first got my Z28 i had something like 350 rwhp. I raced a civic with 250 hp with a 200 shot and spanked him. Ive killed preludes, accords, crx's, and rx7's. All with very high hp #'s and the only car that gave me a run for my money was the 350z. He won 1 of 3 races and i barley, i mean barley got the last one. Other than that I have never had a rice maker come with in a cars length of me. So, I guess trying to convince me that American muscle can get beat by a car with less power than my motorcycle is going to be very hard.

What kind of car do you even have?(year, mods ect...). Oh and find me a four cylinder that makes 250 horse and can handle a 200 shot. The most those cars ever have is around 50-75 shot.

Oh and not defending ricers(ie...people that lie about there cars and think there fast enough to beat every car out there...kinda like you). I have no problem with a fast honda...hell he's doing the same thing as me, just with a different car.

And you were refering to 300-400 horse hondas...now you trying to convince me that your motorcycle had more that 300-400 horse is going to be very hard.

First off, no i was saying my bike has more stock hp than a stock civic etc. I have a 96 z28(look at my screen name). Guy i bought car from had heads ported and lt4 cam. I believe its a 355 also. Kinda had a hard time figuring out what was exactly done to it cuz he did shortly after i got the car. As far as me not liking ricers, it b/c they lie alot more than domestic guys. Also, that civic that had 250 ho plus 200 shot does excist. ****en car is bad ass. But i took him so end of story. As far as me making my car more than it is, not possible. The guys is dead that got the work done to it, so i have no idea what is done to it. He said it had close to 400 rwhp. Which I believe b/c it hauls ass. Never benn to the track with it, but i hang with some pretty high number cars.

As far as the whole mob/stock thing, you guys are right. Him and I are doing the same thing. Im just an American muscle boy that loves raw power. And the closest i get to *** power is when its between my legs and Im cutting corners or exceeding 160 mph. Call me closed minded or crazy, but American power is where its at.

My first fast car was a CRX with a JDM H22A motor from the Prelude. all motor i was push 423 wheel horsepower and 403 wheel torque. Gutted inside and basically all racetrim. I never got a chance top run it at the track as i blew it up not much after i dynoed it.

My first fast car was a CRX with a JDM H22A motor from the Prelude. all motor i was push 423 wheel horsepower and 403 wheel torque. Gutted inside and basically all racetrim. I never got a chance top run it at the track as i blew it up not much after i dynoed it.


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the most you are looking at is 220 to the front wheels, dont get how you added 200 to that.

Yeah, that seems alittle outrageous.

What do them things weigh when there gutted out?

With the 2.2l, around 2050 pounds.

With the 2.2l, around 2050 pounds.

Holy crap that is light :eek:

Hell I'd be happy if I could get my pig down to 3000 :(

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the most you are looking at is 220 to the front wheels, dont get how you added 200 to that.

I agree. The horsepower is believable if it's got some money sunk into it, but not the torque. A small engine like that that can actually kick out 400+ ft-lbs is going to be making some nasty hp at 8000 rpm.

i was just stating what my dynosheet said. sorry if you dont believe me but i dont like to bull ****.

I agree. The horsepower is believable if it's got some money sunk into it, but not the torque. A small engine like that that can actually kick out 400+ ft-lbs is going to be making some nasty hp at 8000 rpm.

Hes right^^^^^^
I typoed the torque....303 torque, but my horsepower was 423. sorry if you dont believe me....i really dont like to bull ****.

Hes right^^^^^^
I typoed the torque....303 torque, but my horsepower was 423. sorry if you dont believe me....i really dont like to bull ****.

if it was turbo, I believe that for sure, but if it was N/A, then something is up. its hard enough getting 423rwhp out of a small block chevy, let alone an H22. again turbo, we're cool, N/A, still calling BS :)

I agree. The horsepower is believable if it's got some money sunk into it, but not the torque. A small engine like that that can actually kick out 400+ ft-lbs is going to be making some nasty hp at 8000 rpm.

yeah for sure bro...

HP=torque * rpm/ 5252

so that would mean he is really making 609 hp at 8Krpm, 685 at 9krpm, and for fun..533 at 7krpm.

something is not right!

yea dude.....400hp out of a civic.....all engine.....ahhh yea i dont think its happening

Hes right^^^^^^
I typoed the torque....303 torque, but my horsepower was 423. sorry if you dont believe me....i really dont like to bull ****.
Is this like one of those Brian Fisher cars that always claim astronomical numbers all motor?
Sorry Devildog but that is REALLY hard to believe unless you can come up with some good evidence to support your claim.

You guys should really read up on the enemy. There are all motor hondas in the 11's and a couple in the 10's. This is in full race trim but still.

250hp on a 2000-lb car that can hook -- I can see 11's from that.

Is this like one of those Brian Fisher cars that always claim astronomical numbers all motor?
Sorry Devildog but that is REALLY hard to believe unless you can come up with some good evidence to support your claim.


Brian Fisher bulids some nasty ass cars. I think some of you just have in your heads that a honda can never be fast. It doesn't take as much horsepower because they are so much lighter. The biggest problem is getting traction with them.

Brian Fisher bulids some nasty ass cars. I think some of you just have in your heads that a honda can never be fast. It doesn't take as much horsepower because they are so much lighter. The biggest problem is getting traction with them.

There is a Honda Civic that runs once and awhile at NYIRP TnT. He always runs between 12.3-12.8 @ around 125 MPH. That's insane to me to have a car trap 15 MPH more then me but basically be a drivers race :eek:

It's actually funny to watch him run. He's this big slug coming out of the gate. But then after 100 feet or so he takes off like a bat out of hell.

Yea they always have a lot of MPH for their ET. They are also really sick from a roll.

You guys should really read up on the enemy. There are all motor hondas in the 11's and a couple in the 10's. This is in full race trim but still.

i read up on the enemy all the time. those cars weigh under 2000 lb's and acream at 10,000 rpm. but they arent making 400 to the wheels which is our point.

i read up on the enemy all the time. those cars weigh under 2000 lb's and acream at 10,000 rpm. but they arent making 400 to the wheels which is our point.
Well, not NA.

There are 800fwhp turbo Civics out there.

I bet there is an all motor 4 cyl out there making 400 to the wheels. Probably an H22.

Brian Fisher bulids some nasty ass cars. I think some of you just have in your heads that a honda can never be fast. It doesn't take as much horsepower because they are so much lighter. The biggest problem is getting traction with them.
I agree whole heartedly that imports can be made fast. As I've said before there's no magic when it comes to hp/wt. I lost some chump change over one I thought I'd have no problem with. My gripe along w/ many others is a 4cyl. being able to produce over 300ftlbs of torque N/A. The 400whp thing is a little far fetched N/A as well.

I bet there is an all motor 4 cyl out there making 400 to the wheels. Probably an H22.

the f22c or the k20 will top out at 230 to the wheels at the top top top of the statistical spread. anymore than that, and you are getting into super hybrid motors that you cannot drive everyday and require race gas. 400 N/A, nope....not unless its a 100,000$ race motor. you wont find 400 to the wheels in some casual racers garage, its gotta be professionally built and sponsored, and could even be in an F1 car, but not on the street. prove me wrong, I would love it.

the f22c or the k20 will top out at 230 to the wheels at the top top top of the statistical spread. anymore than that, and you are getting into super hybrid motors that you cannot drive everyday and require race gas. 400 N/A, nope....not unless its a 100,000$ race motor. you wont find 400 to the wheels in some casual racers garage, its gotta be professionally built and sponsored, and could even be in an F1 car, but not on the street. prove me wrong, I would love it.


You honestly think that a K20 full maxed out NA will only make 230 at the wheels????

I may be slightly wrong because my friend tells me that a full out race K20 makes 370 at the wheels. And the original comment had nothing to do with race gas or daily driving.

He always runs between 12.3-12.8 @ around 125 MPH.

That's pathetic and extremely unimpressive.

Actruly thats a sign of very low torque.

Actruly thats a sign of very low torque.
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You talking about the 12.8 @ 199mph import.

If so that's more of a sign of a BIG turbo on a little engine suffering from serious turbo lag. Kinda like a "fat guy in a little coat..."

Are you talking about me. The only honda I ever owned was a 2005cbr 1000rr. That will smoke anyone hear except for maybe tanner.

yummie... 1+Liter bikes... mmmm mmmm good... 36psi and 116 race gas and nothin but tail lights for them...

"Torque" has little to do with mph vs ET. Rather, traction and driver skill (assuming a manual tranny) make all the difference in the world when it comes to putting together a good mph vs ET package.

I like to see that race with you and my 2006 yamaha M1. Only thing you'd see is your money going in my hand.

I like to see that race with you and my 2006 yamaha M1. Only thing you'd see is your money going in my hand.


lol... i'm guessing you have an R1... i raced one this summer that had a full exhaust, and a handfull of v&h crap on it... yea he beat me when i was @ 25psi with a toasted O2 on my car (ran a bit lean, with few counts of knock)... he pulled me by about 1-2mph on the highway (to about 120mph)... it was funny as he kept looking back, like he was expecting to just flat out dust me... when he/we finally let off he shook his head in disbelief, then gave me a nod and the thumbs up... i've also raced 4 600's on the highway and put a 4-5mph hurtin on em all... my car is no joke, and i hope to run in the 135mph in the spring if the tranz will hold up...

internet racin'.... :thumb:

didn't mean to jack this thread, sorry

"Torque" has little to do with mph vs ET. Rather, traction and driver skill (assuming a manual tranny) make all the difference in the world when it comes to putting together a good mph vs ET package.
I did not know that.

yummie... 1+Liter bikes... mmmm mmmm good... 36psi and 116 race gas and nothin but tail lights for them...

I'd take that on. My 'old' ZX-9 may not be rated as high as the newer liter bikes, but a muzzy 998 kit evens the field a little. My best time to date is a pathetic 9.82 with a poor 1.36 60' time. Where ya at and when do ya want to run??

No its not a are one. Its a M1. Race bike bro. Pushes over 200 back wheek horse power. When i first finished building it, I took it to the track and ran a 9.5 and missed a gear. Guessing i would have been in the high 8's if I didnt miss and let off the throttle. Its not set up for drag though. So from a roll, I'd pretty much murder you on one wheel. The only challenge would be me having to hold down the front. I can easly get the beast up to 200 mph.

Jeeze - somebody says beats a bike or two and here they come. 9ronone actually joined the board just to make that reply!

I think we all know by now that somebody always has a faster something than yours. Why beat it into the ground?

Im not trying to be a ass, but my first love is for two wheels. I have much more respect for a bike than I do a car. Though it is very very impressive when a car can hang with a bike. Although if the rider new how to ride I find it very hard to be done.

Well gee, not too many cars can "easily get the beast up to 200 mph" on 4 wheels. With ease. On public roads. Probably every day on the way to work...errr....school.

Bob

I have never gone over 170-180 mph on the street. And when i did go that fast I made sure it was safe to. I when 200 mph on a race track in 5th gear. Scared the crap out of me. Mainly b/c i still had one more gear and about a half wrist of throttle left. I raced twin turbo supra from a dig to 120, and murdered it. Then from a roll at 20, and killed him on on tire. And then from 100 to his max speed (which he said was 180) and killed him to 180. Al times we raced I damn near had a semi trucks length on him. Not to metion I had to baby it b/c the track slicks weren't sticking very well on the asfault. And that damn bike scares the crap out of me. Seems to never stop pulling.

Uncle.

You have an M1 huh?

Whatever you need to tell yourself to make yourself feel better.

It actually and old M1 engine. Cost me a car and a pretty penny to get it. I was one of Yamaha test bike engines that was in a wreck. Had to do alot of fab work to have it match up to the knew design frame.

Yeah your correct it all is stock. I could go down one tooth in the front, and go up two in the back, tweek the suspension, and do even better.

LOL. The internet is such a wonderful place.