Another 07 camaro pic

Possible repost but i havent seen it yet........


http://www.camaro.nu/news/cam2007/cam2007.jpg

Older than dirt.....just like me.....

If it's anything close to that, I will be so so so so so pissed :(

I like the look of that one, modern classicaly inspired, but not "classic"

That has to be the worst one yet. GAG

Photoshopped..........not even close.....

Way old...and even then....just a guess based on the Opel Insignia concept and what we thought to be styling themes at the time.

Photoshopped..........not even close.....
Thank the maker.

Photoshopped..........not even close.....

Let's hear it for that, LOL!

Old and :yuck:

Photoshopped..........not even close.....

Whew

Photoshopped..........not even close.....
My nomination for quote of the year! :D

My nomination for quote of the year! :D

Yeah no kidding, Can you say confirmation? :D :D :D :D

Crispey's is still the closest out there. He has a revised one (that is said to be even closer) but we've been holding off on publishing it.

Crispey's is still the closest out there. He has a revised one (that is said to be even closer) but we've been holding off on publishing it.

Of course Scott used the same quote on Crispey's latest published edition at the BG Summit last year... ;)

This pic looks like the new Eclipse. I would rather die then have that as a Camaro.

I'm going to second that idea of Red having the Quote of the Year.
Where can I see Crispey's car?

Hey Branden, any idea who the 91z guy on your forum is? He may win most interesting poster of the year

I'm going to second that idea of Red having the Quote of the Year.
Where can I see Crispey's car?

Hey Branden, any idea who the 91z guy on your forum is? He may win most interesting poster of the year
If it is 91z4me then thanks. I tried registering that here a few years ago but I was to much of a noob to figure it out.

BTW new part of the sig.

Photoshopped..........not even close.....

oooh oooh oohh my favorite post of all time

(and not about the photoshopped bit (i already knew that))



:D

Yeah no kidding, Can you say confirmation? :D :D :D :D

That's the first thing that I thought.

I keep fantazing about the day I come to the 5th gen forum and see confirmation and a pic.......

Every time I come here I hope to finally one day see the thread titled "Oh Sh*t, finally 5th Gen spy pics". :p

I wonder how badly peole like Scott want to just bust out a description. It must be frustrating to hear people so starved for information and be restricted in even confirming the project exists, let alone any details.

Josh, what gives? Is Chris under some NDA? Are you for that matter? I am sure you have solid reasons for not publishing the pic yet, but throw us a bone, at least tell us WHY you can't or won't publish Crispey's latest rendition.

BTW , saw the SRT-8 charger and the Firepower yesterday at the Mile High Nationals. All I can say is NIIIIIICCEE! And I don't even like the regular/Daytona Chargers. The SRT-8 though, just works.

As far as the Firepower, should they decide to make it, the car will give the luxo-sport tourer buyer a viable alternative to the 'Vette (which I still think is one of the greatest cars EVER! FWIW) It is a beautiful car, and should they decide to drop a 6 spd manual in it, I can definitely see it stealing some Corvette sales. At least for the people wanting more of a sport touring car than a pure sports car.

Crispey's is still the closest out there. He has a revised one (that is said to be even closer) but we've been holding off on publishing it.

Just show it. ;) I really hope that the front of the car is especially different from what we've seen so far. Never been impressed with it. It's also all a little too retro IMO.

So your holding onto an embargoed picture?...I find that hard to believe.
Cause I'd hate for this place to go from the annoying wink, to, "I got the picture and I know more than all of you," type of ordeal.

So your holding onto an embargoed picture?...I find that hard to believe.
Cause I'd hate for this place to go from the annoying wink, to, "I got the picture and I know more than all of you," type of ordeal.


No embargoed pictures...........

I wonder how badly peole like Scott want to just bust out a description. It must be frustrating to hear people so starved for information and be restricted in even confirming the project exists, let alone any details.

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YA THINK?!?!?!?!


how many times do I have to say "have faith?".......yet everyone wants to believe magazines --- who, by the way --- are NEVER in product planning meetings................

YA THINK?!?!?!?!


how many times do I have to say "have faith?".......yet everyone wants to believe magazines --- who, by the way --- are NEVER in product planning meetings................


Scott, I don't doubt you when you say "Have Faith", I just believe that talking to enthusiast's, and not being able to share in the details, has to suck royally.
I can just imagine the post you make when GM finally acknowledges the cars existence.
Can you say giant font "I told you so!" :D

So your holding onto an embargoed picture?...I find that hard to believe.
Cause I'd hate for this place to go from the annoying wink, to, "I got the picture and I know more than all of you," type of ordeal.

Reread what I said. I said Crispey has a rendering that we believe is much closer than the PHR version.

Photoshopped..........not even close.....

thank god! that said, that is the worst photoshop i've ever seen! someone tell that guy who to use the damn program right before he goes trying to make concepts!!

Mr S you sure you should even be saying this? Dont lose your job buddy

No embargoed pictures...........
So when will there be pictures that are embargoed? :D

YA THINK?!?!?!?!


how many times do I have to say "have faith?".......yet everyone wants to believe magazines --- who, by the way --- are NEVER in product planning meetings................

After reading and seeing what magazines come up with, all I can say is "THANK GAWD!". :D

I never doubted it. :) The camaro lives again... hopefully i'll have enough $$$ to sell my current daily driver and have a LS2 5th Gen Camaro Z28... 380 hp... 380 tq... with 18 inch wheels all around... (damn i would have to upgrade my Z06 with bigger wheels... lol)

You know what would be bad???? offer it in Electron Blue ... (i can dream.. can't i????)

Do we know if they have constructed 1 complete car yet?

Hopefully we'll have a "Rides" special come mid-Jan '06 detailing all this. :thumb:

how many times do I have to say "have faith?".......yet everyone wants to believe magazines --- who, by the way --- are NEVER in product planning meetings................

Still, it suck we, GM's ENTHUSIASTS have to twist in the wind like this till it's time

Let's hope it's worth the wait like it's hinted to be

Hey Josh, you still have this question hanging out there.

Josh, what gives? Is Chris under some NDA? Are you for that matter? I am sure you have solid reasons for not publishing the pic yet, but throw us a bone, at least tell us WHY you can't or won't publish Crispey's latest rendition.

This turned out to be a cool thread afterall.

Has anyone even realized that's a photoshopped picture of the Opel that was shown probally 2 autoshow seasons ago??

Also, that this exact photoshop was put up here (as well as over on Branden's site, GMInsidernews)?

This was also one of the picturtes that got me fed up with photochops, where I remember sarcastically stating why doesn't someone photoshop a TrailBlazer into a Camaro since people seem to be doing it with everything from Solstices to CTS and now Opels. :lol:

BTW: If there's still anyone who read Fbod's posts and still doesn't believe, then go stand out on the freeway....... you won't get hit. ;)

Has anyone even realized that's a photoshopped picture of the Opel that was shown probally 2 autoshow seasons ago??

Also, that this exact photoshop was put up here (as well as over on Branden's site, GMInsidernews)?

This was also one of the picturtes that got me fed up with photochops, where I remember sarcastically stating why doesn't someone photoshop a TrailBlazer into a Camaro since people seem to be doing it with everything from Solstices to CTS and now Opels. :lol:

BTW: If there's still anyone who read Fbod's posts and still doesn't believe, then go stand out on the freeway....... you won't get hit. ;)
There is that D*mn winky again!!! ;) :p

You know, in a weird kind of way, all of the concept pics that I've seen of Camaro's front ends all look like the truck's front end. The only pic I've seen so far that I liked was the retro one done a long time ago.

I dunno, if another Camaro is coming out, and if it looks like ANY of these concepts I've seen, I will not buy a Camaro.

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg


I have never been too crazy about that one. Looks like a 4th gen with some diffrent panels.

YA THINK?!?!?!?!


how many times do I have to say "have faith?".......yet everyone wants to believe magazines --- who, by the way --- are NEVER in product planning meetings................
I feel your pain Scott! But not Everyone though, as I never believe the rags, and never lost my faith! I try to read between the lines, thanks for the confirmation. :D I hope it doesn't put your ass in the fire!

I'd buy it!

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg

:shock:





....Towel please!

:shock:





....Towel please!

:D :D :D Retro cues, modern rendition. I like that too.

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg

WOW!!!!!

Seriously, best yet. And I've seen most if not all Camaro Concepts out there.

It says CAMARO in so many ways. That said, I have faith in GM's design studio. They haven't disappointed me with a Camaro design yet.

:shock:





....Towel please!
Ooh...Now that I can dig! :bow: I see a little touch of the CTS in there, but I have to agree, that might be one of the best yet! Lets see if we can get any comments from Red on this one! If not it could be another hint! :D Woops I meant to post the link. I suck with computers! :o

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg


I feel like I just had sex..twice! :eek: :bow:

Look, it has a smiley face like the C6 too! :bow: Or should I say a Menacing Grin! :D

Interesting....

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg

:shock:

Dear Lord...can you take a soul as payment on a future car?

If that's close, I need to know the answer to that question.

I'm glad to see such a response to Crispy's concept....

I've always felt that that particular design never got the "air time" it deserved around here.

So many people drool over all the retro 69ish concepts (all 2,167,944 of them :think: ) that I think a lot of those people forget how AWESOME a non blatantly retro design can be.

:thumb:

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg

Wow, now that's what I'm talking about (evolution of the previous generation), NOT some complete retro 69 crap! I don't want GM to copy-cat the Rustang either. :o Honestly though, that is starting to get closer to the "fresh, new design" the next Camaro will need to be. Still a little borderline on sharing similarities with the 4th gen, but that thing looks SHARP and definitely more-modernized than the previous generation it will be following. :) But then again, I loved the 4th gens so of course I'd love this since this is what I've been asking for all along, LOL.

RP, can you comment at all if this is more along the lines of what we'll be getting? Or is this way off base??

Disclaimer: I don't hate '69 Camaro's at all. In fact, I LOVE them and want a '69 Z28 or SS someday to put in my garage...But I also want the "original" thing and not some retro-ized modern design. ;)

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg


All due respect to Crispey...I never liked that too much. It looks like it would have made a nice 1995 Camaro.

All due respect to Crispey...I never liked that too much. It looks like it would have made a nice 1995 Camaro.


Yeah, its funny how these guys HATE retro but retro 4th gen is ok.

Yeah, its funny how these guys HATE retro but retro 4th gen is ok.



I don't see what is "Retro-4th Gen" (thought that would be another way of saying "evolutionary" anyway) about that drawing at all, except maybe the greenhouse.

If anything, I think it has a lot of "3rd gen" feel to it, without being a blatant copy of it.

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg

:eek: Damn, I'd Buy that!!!! :bow:

This is the design theme the 5th Gen needs to work towards.

I dont see where some of y'all are getting a 4th gen out of that, it looks totally evolutionary to me.

I definitely see 3rd gen in there, especially the front clip. The rear end looks like an evolution of the 4th gen, and the hood scoop just looks bad ass. Oh well, it is fun to speculate, but I sure hope Detroit in January turns out to be far hotter than the weather would suggest.

Yeah, I thought that one was pretty cool. I think out of the group of 5th gens that was posted on C&G for the contest, this one was the best.

Crazy ,cuz I see 1st gen in there too. To me this is kinda what we need...past cues...evolved! Everyone see's something different in it. I don't know if this is close or not, and its just a drawing, but IMO, A very good one! I see 1st gen, without over the top retro, exactly what I always said could be done. The back could use some work, but its not bad. The front shot looks tough!

Crazy ,cuz I see 1st gen in there too. To me this is kinda what we need...past cues...evolved! Everyone see's something different in it. I don't know if this is close or not, and its just a drawing, but IMO, A very good one! I see 1st gen, without over the top retro, exactly what I always said could be done.


I suppose I could take the fender swoops/character lines as 1st Gen inspired... maybe the positioning of the upper grille too....

If that is as far as it goes, then I'm fine with it.

That is sort of the way that Corvette takes it's "retro cues", if you want to call them that. There's a general "feel" of the past, without actually copying it(or even really trying to)

I agree with y’all, there is a good mix of heritage in this concept but over all its modern and it say’s “CAMARO” to me.

I truly believe if GM built a Camaro like this and gave it the right performance hardware it would be a hit.

Hey Darth, did you ever see the concept(red Camaro model) that I did? If so, what did you think? I can't remember if you replied or not and I wanted to get the opinion of someone who is like me, in that they are against a retro Camaro.

I suppose I could take the fender swoops/character lines as 1st Gen inspired... maybe the positioning of the upper grille too....

If that is as far as it goes, then I'm fine with it.

That is sort of the way that Corvette takes it's "retro cues", if you want to call them that. There's a general "feel" of the past, without actually copying it(or even really trying to)
Exactly. Retro is just a word. To me the C6 IS retro....done right not overdone. When I start to look closely at the C6, I see more of Corvette's past than probably every other Corvette Generation. I love the C6 its awesome, when you see it, there is no mistaking what it is, it conveys to me, everything that Corvette IS, and why I love Corvettes. That to me is what the 5th gen needs to be for Camaro. All you have to say is RETRO, and the ppl go nuts around here. :rolleyes: We ALL have our own ideas of what RETRO IS. I want a car, that reminds me what Camaro was/IS. So when I say retro, this is what I mean. Not a retro copy! Maybe if I type it enough it'll take the sting out of the word Retro....I doubt it though. Still we must wait and see, but waiting is the hardest part! :cry:

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg


Yup. I would definately buy that or the PHR versions.

Hey Darth, did you ever see the concept(red Camaro model) that I did? If so, what did you think? I can't remember if you replied or not and I wanted to get the opinion of someone who is like me, in that they are against a retro Camaro.

I probably have it saved in my "GMX-284" folder on my hard drive! :D

If you have a link to it, it would remind which one it was... :)

I probably have it saved in my "GMX-284" folder on my hard drive! :D

If you have a link to it, it would remind which one it was... :)

Yeah, here it is.

I still want to go to another location for some more/better pics.


Pic 1 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7090 good2 small.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7178 good small.jpg)
Pic 3 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7188 good small.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7206 good small.jpg)
Pic 5 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7219 good small.jpg)

Yeah, here it is.

I still want to go to another location for some more/better pics.


Pic 1 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7090 good2 small.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7178 good small.jpg)
Pic 3 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7188 good small.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7206 good small.jpg)
Pic 5 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7219 good small.jpg)


Not bad! :cool:


Being totally honest, I prefer the sharper lines of Crispy's picture.... but I do not dislike yours.

I think yours has some strong 4th gen flavor to it... but mixed in with some 1st Gen Viper..... you really get a feel for the Viper flavoring on the top-down pictures.

That would be the helix studio one right? I love that one also.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/BigAlZ/CamaroReborn.jpg

I always thought that the design MT did looked better as a Camaro....:)

I guess not, this is the one I like.
http://www.helixstudio.com/ssmd/camaro/camaro_ss.jpeg

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpgThe outside could be cool, but I really hope the inside looks nothing like that...

:no:

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg

I'd be on that car like white on rice. :bow:

Not bad! :cool:


Being totally honest, I prefer the sharper lines of Crispy's picture.... but I do not dislike yours.

I think yours has some strong 4th gen flavor to it... but mixed in with some 1st Gen Viper..... you really get a feel for the Viper flavoring on the top-down pictures.

That's cool.

I wanted to do something that had both curves and creases and a Camaro that would compliment the Corvette. It has been a few months now that I have completed this design and there are certainly things I would like to change but that isn't really possible.

All due respect to Crispey...I never liked that too much. It looks like it would have made a nice 1995 Camaro.

I'm with him. I don't get all excited over it at all.

That's cool.

I wanted to do something that had both curves and creases and a Camaro that would compliment the Corvette. It has been a few months now that I have completed this design and there are certainly things I would like to change but that isn't really possible.


Do you have anything that shows the front end a little better?

It's too bad GM cancelled all the Zeta platform's. We don't want anymore Truck's or SUV's they suck(unless 400+HP). But still I wouldn't be seen in a camaro if they looked like that. Sorry but GM is turning into Sh**.

It's too bad GM cancelled all the Zeta platform's. We don't want anymore Truck's or SUV's they suck(unless 400+HP). But still I wouldn't be seen in a camaro if they looked like that. Sorry but GM is turning into Sh**.
Didn't read any replies I take it.

[/URL] Do you have anything that shows the front end a little better?

...............I do, but I was kinda avoiding that because I am not too satisfied with some of the design, especially the grill (the model didn't translate the design as I had hoped). So here it is. These pics aren't that great so I apolagize.

Front 1 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7157 small.jpg)
Front 3 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7199 small.jpg)
Front 4 (http://www.porteightyhosting.com/uploads/DSCN7210 small.jpg)

I guess not, this is the one I like.
http://www.helixstudio.com/ssmd/camaro/camaro_ss.jpeg


I like that one also. It its not retro, I would prefer it look like this.

This one is still probably my favorite.... from Crispy over at C&G...


http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/uploads/post-5-1101796690.jpg
****ing....sick.


:bow:

Sick is right, as in nasty.

See the one above your post. The red one, that looks like a real car on planet earth, not a fantasy mobile with 50 inch wheels and rides .01 inches off the ground.

The red one is pretty close to what I think we will end up seeing, perhaps with a bit smaller wheels.

Sick is right, as in nasty.

See the one above your post. The red one, that looks like a real car on planet earth, not a fantasy mobile with 50 inch wheels and rides .01 inches off the ground.

The red one is pretty close to what I think we will end up seeing, perhaps with a bit smaller wheels.

Chill out man, that is just a "drawing" we like, nothing more. ;) Of course it's not going to look "real" in the sense. :p

That red one is not bad, but I would hope that GM would make it more aggressive looking as that still seems a little bland (certainly not something that is going to take lots of sales away from Ford's RWD pony car). Needs to surpass the new Mustang not only in performance as it usually has, but also stand out more in creative styling IMO to really be a hit (speaking externally on its behalf).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/BigAlZ/CamaroReborn.jpg

I always thought that the design MT did looked better as a Camaro....:)
Holly Dodge Charger Batman! :eek: Guess they figured, if Chevy wasn't gonna use it....They might as well!

That red one is not bad, but I would hope that GM would make it more aggressive looking as that still seems a little bland (certainly not something that is going to take lots of sales away from Ford's RWD pony car). Needs to surpass the new Mustang not only in performance as it usually has, but also stand out more in creative styling IMO to really be a hit (speaking externally on its behalf).


The red one (model) was designed to be like an actual production model taking into account many constaits that real auto designers face. That being said, in an attempt to keep the car realistic (not a "concept car") I think it ended up looking a touch too familiar in the front. The pictures don't really do it justice as there are a lot of details and lines that can't be seen. A reason it may look a bit bland is because there are no cut lines, door handles, head/tail lights, badges, "Camaro" lettering in the back, and things of that nature. It actually looks better in person.

On a side note, looking at a "new" Mustang, they are pretty ordinary and not very aggresive, even the GT. The Cobra, however, looks more aggressive.

Sorry Neil, not talking about your red one. Talking about the drawing red one.

Crispy, That screams production:D, RP hasnt chimned in on this one yet?

The new Crispy design is good, but way too much 4th gen in that rear, one BIG thing I never liked about 4th gens. The fat, wide rear end gave the car a very overweight look. IMO, made it look much heavier then it should be. Front end is a little eh. Not impressed with it, and doesnt look like it would appeal to female buyers.

I love that Crispy drawing! Definately the best one I've seen so far IMO.


Colin

Well today, I went out car shopping. Went to go look at 'Vettes and met a VERY well connected individual who confirmed the existence of the Camaro and a '07 timetable (he was a little cagy as to wether this meant production or tooling). How well connected? Connected enough to have Dave Hill's personal phone number on speed dial. I am sure alot of people will cry BS, but I am being intentionally vague to protect the interests of the individual in question. Any doubt I had, however niggling, is now offically dispelled.

I did not ask any specifics; not sure that this person would have had any, but I figured it was better to be discrete and not pry, the confirmation was enough to make my day.

Oh, and the 'Vettes were simply unbelievable. The GT500 MAY end up being faster than a C6 Z51, but nothing short of the Ford GT supercar will ever touch one in all around panache!

hmmmm, you sound honest but ill still call BS, unless of course you offer up some of this "timetable" that another reputable person can confirm?

Quickz, I don't know it myself. If he did, he did not say, and honestly, I was uncomfortable asking. I wish I had more news to report, all I can say is he knows Dave on a first name basis, and brought up Scott by name. Again, not trying to be a winkie guy, just not my place to say any more (and maybe not have said this much) about his identity.

As RP and Mark Reuss have already said everything EXCEPT "Yes, you will see a Camaro in January" I would take this as just one more coroborating piece of evidence.

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL555/2286231/4479472/93435494.jpg

I think this one looks the best out of all the retro Camaro concepts I've seen.

Personally I'm not a fan of "retro" cars, but, it is working for Ford, and it's probably the route GM will take. So if I had to, I could live with the above design, though I'd prefer something completely new and original.

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL555/2286231/4479472/93435494.jpg

I think this one looks the best out of all the retro Camaro concepts I've seen.

Personally I'm not a fan of "retro" cars, but, it is working for Ford, and it's probably the route GM will take. So if I had to, I could live with the above design, though I'd prefer something completely new and original.

I don'y really like that design but the sketch is very nice.

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL555/2286231/4479472/93435494.jpg

I think this one looks the best out of all the retro Camaro concepts I've seen.

Personally I'm not a fan of "retro" cars, but, it is working for Ford, and it's probably the route GM will take. So if I had to, I could live with the above design, though I'd prefer something completely new and original.
To me it looks like a Dodge with a Camaro nose grafted on. :rolleyes:

i don't know 'bout everyone else, but theres something about sneaky neils. just try and put some production finish to it in your head and it's a pretty sweet looking car IMO. either way detroit is gonna be one hot place come january.