99 gt stang vs. 00 z28

hey guys i got a 00 z28, a4 with a full exhaust, and lt pacesetter headers along with y-pipe. a buddy of mines has a 5 speed 99 gt stang and his mods are full exhaust, headers, pullys, intake, and gears. he wants to race at the track. wat do u think the outcome will be?

Unless you REALLY screw up, you'll win.

^Ya for sure, you will kill him.

Unless you REALLY screw up, you'll win.

^ yup...

Doesn't "full exhaust" always mean headers, y pipe and catback? ;)

If steveY's behind the wheels your meat..
Realistically you'll kill him

omg.46 gt versus and ls1 no competition.lol

iT might be close if he can drive buddy of mines got 04gt with similar mods running high 12's in 3800lb gt!

he said hes going high 13's so i think i can beat him. i was gonna wait till i got my ls6 intake and a cam but then im positive i would kill him bad.

Antz you meen to say add dradials and you will surely smoke him. or maybe get some intake power. :confused:

iT might be close if he can drive buddy of mines got 04gt with similar mods running high 12's in 3800lb gt!

:lol: There is a big difference between a 99 GT and an 04 GT :)

:lol: There is a big difference between a 99 GT and an 04 GT :)



And that would be???????? :confused:

^Oh nothing, except for 40+hp and 20lbs+- of torque :)

I raced a 04 mustang gt in my car when i had Flowmaster exhaust and madz28 tune,(can't remember if i had my intake yet or not) and we went from a 40ish roll and up to about 90 and i put about a little more than a car length on him. I don't think you'll have any problems.

^Oh nothing, except for 40+hp and 20lbs+- of torque :)

I'm pretty sure the power and performance stayed the same for the duration of that generation.

It did it was rated at 260 from 99 to 04 I think.Actually less than a much older lt1 camaro such as mine.Ive actually took on e on the highway with not much of a problem.

Shoot; I messed up the 04 w/ the 05. My bad. I dunno if the 99 and 04 are the same thing :o

It did it was rated at 260 from 99 to 04 I think.Actually less than a much older lt1 camaro such as mine.Ive actually took on e on the highway with not much of a problem.

Ya, I forgot htat *05* was the magical year of the 'Stang, I was thinking it was *04*. But the 04 wont even be a problem for a *stock* 95 LT1, lol

Someone told me the newer ones have a different cam,pistons,and other things,but I thought they were the same form 99 to 04

all GT's from 1999 to 2004 are identical 260hp performance wise.... in 98, they were rated at 225/295. in '05, as most of you know it is 300hp. hope this answers some questions. but back to the post, i think you will have no problem with the GT. especially if you have longtubes. get a new lid as it will not hurt:) but i have a '02 GT and it isin't funny how slow it is compared to my LS1 when it was bone stock. good luck and perfect your launch!

Ya, I forgot htat *05* was the magical year of the 'Stang, I was thinking it was *04*. But the 04 wont even be a problem for a *stock* 95 LT1, lol


You guys are crazy....Lt1 vs 2v's are a driver's race stock vs. stock.....Modded stangs will run with the right bolt-ons.. I went from a 50 mph kick yesterday against my buddy 02 ram air (4.10's, lid, and loudmouth) and he never passed me till I ran out of gear in 4th which is about 115........He was surprised said I was only mustang he didn't spank....There out there so watch out guys....I'm chevy guy too so don't flame me.........

The 05's have 3-valve heads on them with variable cam-timing........

You guys are crazy....Lt1 vs 2v's are a driver's race stock vs. stock.....Modded stangs will run with the right bolt-ons.. I went from a 50 mph kick yesterday against my buddy 02 ram air (4.10's, lid, and loudmouth) and he never passed me till I ran out of gear in 4th which is about 115........He was surprised said I was only mustang he didn't spank....There out there so watch out guys....I'm chevy guy too so don't flame me.........

:bs: If that is all you have (4.30's) that 02 TA, with 4.10's would have pulled you so hard from a 50 MPH kick it would be unbelievable. 02 Ta's are LS1's not LT1's BTW.

^Yup, very true. That LS1 would have absolutely ROASTED you w/ the mods he has.
But in all reality, none of the mustangs from 94 and up (or whatever year the fox-body ended) was ever a challenge for an LT1, let alone an LS1.

^Yup, very true. That LS1 would have absolutely ROASTED you w/ the mods he has.
But in all reality, none of the mustangs from 94 and up (or whatever year the fox-body ended) was ever a challenge for an LT1, let alone an LS1.

None of the mustangs from 94 and up? That covers a wide spectrum of different ponies. Saleens, Roush, Machs, Cobras, and modded (heavily) GT's are considered worthy opponents, even threats. Everytime I go to the track I see a Foxbody or a GT running 11's 12's. The aftermarket is a GT owners friend. Honestly, how many of you guys would have a stock anything much less a stock Stang. I think thats why ford have always keep the numbers lower than others such as GM or Dodge. The aftermarket companies are paying Ford for using their autos to make money. It makes sense if you think about it. The Cobra/Lightning/GT (the fast one) are proof that they have the equipment and engines to be faster but choose to sell more cars.

ok guys me and my buddy raced last night from a light to the next light which was about a 1/4 mile. the light turned green n we both step on the gas. he took the first launch but next thing u know that car is like 3 cars behind me. he was pissed that he couldn't beat me with his mods and now he's deciding to sell his GT and get a ws6. i guess he got the launch cuz his is a 5 speed n mines a auto. but my next goal is to get some gears, ls6 intake, and a cam.
if u got the right mods done to your car, u can compete with any car out there.

None of the mustangs from 94 and up? That covers a wide spectrum of different ponies. Saleens, Roush, Machs, Cobras, and modded (heavily) GT's are considered worthy opponents, even threats. Everytime I go to the track I see a Foxbody or a GT running 11's 12's. The aftermarket is a GT owners friend. Honestly, how many of you guys would have a stock anything much less a stock Stang. I think thats why ford have always keep the numbers lower than others such as GM or Dodge. The aftermarket companies are paying Ford for using their autos to make money. It makes sense if you think about it. The Cobra/Lightning/GT (the fast one) are proof that they have the equipment and engines to be faster but choose to sell more cars.

My bad, should have made that more clear; 94' and up GT's and base-models.
Saleens, Roushes, Cobras etc, are NOT an ordinary Mustang lol. Hell.. I would take any of those three I just mentioned :cool:

:bs: If that is all you have (4.30's) that 02 TA, with 4.10's would have pulled you so hard from a 50 MPH kick it would be unbelievable. 02 Ta's are LS1's not LT1's BTW.


I know it's a Ls1's dumbass, and he didn't pull it's a true story, who cares if you believe it or not.. Ls1's are beatable thank you, next...........

Here are my mods
4.30's
Flows
O/R H pipe
C@L upper intake plenum
Accufab 75mm throttle body
K&N cold air
Sct tuned
BBk longtubes
I run 12.80's all day long uncorrected.........

My bad, should have made that more clear; 94' and up GT's and base-models.
Saleens, Roushes, Cobras etc, are NOT an ordinary Mustang lol. Hell.. I would take any of those three I just mentioned :cool:


Who are you to talk all this **** with your 3rd gen 305 tune port injected motor give me a break..... :lol: :rolleyes:

whether your car is a lt1, ls1, saleen, cobra, roush, mach 1 or watever, it is still beatable if u know how to drive and got your car modded right.

Its not even a race. The answer is so obvious.

stock for stock an LT1 against a 99+GT is drivers race no doubt. LT1 against a '05 GT well it is obvious the GT will win. we are talking about a '99 GT Vs. an LS1., both moded. i give the edge to the LS1 period! the LS1 has longtubes and minor boltons and the stang has minor boltons thus the LS1 will win provided it is running right.!

What???????Ls1s dont lose. :D

I know it's a Ls1's dumbass, and he didn't pull it's a true story, who cares if you believe it or not.. Ls1's are beatable thank you, next...........

Here are my mods
4.30's
Flows
O/R H pipe
C@L upper intake plenum
Accufab 75mm throttle body
K&N cold air
Sct tuned
BBk longtubes
I run 12.80's all day long uncorrected.........


Ooooh, someone calls BS and NOW the truth comes out. Ya.. your car is far from stock :rolleyes: So.. let me get this straight: a DAMN NEAR STOCK WS6 and your far-from-stock mustang race. You BARELY pulled on him, and he even eventually passed you, yet LS1's are so slow? How in the hell do you figure :confused:

Who are you to talk all this **** with your 3rd gen 305 tune port injected motor give me a break.........

What Mr. Chevy guy that thinks a stock LG4 came w/ tpi :rolleyes: You mad that this 20 year old car will more than likely hang w/ your 4 year old car????

Ooooh, someone calls BS and NOW the truth comes out. Ya.. your car is far from stock :rolleyes: So.. let me get this straight: a DAMN NEAR STOCK WS6 and your far-from-stock mustang race. You BARELY pulled on him, and he even eventually passed you, yet LS1's are so slow? How in the hell do you figure :confused:



What Mr. Chevy guy that thinks a stock LG4 came w/ tpi :rolleyes: You mad that this 20 year old car will more than likely hang w/ your 4 year old car????

What the **** ever a damn ta has more rwh stock than I do with all my mods so whats your point...He passed me cause I ran out of gear in 4th and let off, what good would it do to shift into 5th.....Your car won't hold a candle to mine what's it run high 15's.....Your probably a keyboard warrior anyway, so you don't know.......

^:lol:
My point is, that a stock WS6 (except for those 3 minor mods you mentioned) took you and your heavily modded gt, and then YOU claimed you won.
Whats my 300 horse 305 run? Deffintly faster than your pos (which isn't saying much, as your pos stock was running near 15's stock as well)

gentlemen, common stop complaining about whos car is better and whatnot. fact of the matter is it takes quite the amount of boltons for a '99+ GT to beat an LS1 plain and simple. some GT owners beat LS1's im sure, but a properly driven LS1 against a GT of any year is no contest even the '05 is very close to an LS1 but yet the LS1 should win and i repeat "should" win. and to the above^ i understand that you both think your cars are better, but both of your cars wont "Hold a candle" to most of the cars on this site.... so whats the point? chill out

^Thank you 9transam4, and and at that,
I am done w/ the argument.
But, you are very right; neither of our cars would be much of a challenge to most peoples cars on this website. But hey; I'm 17, why would I need more than 300hp :p

You guys are crazy....Lt1 vs 2v's are a driver's race stock vs. stock.....Modded stangs will run with the right bolt-ons.. I went from a 50 mph kick yesterday against my buddy 02 ram air (4.10's, lid, and loudmouth) and he never passed me till I ran out of gear in 4th which is about 115........He was surprised said I was only mustang he didn't spank....There out there so watch out guys....I'm chevy guy too so don't flame me.........
IM not gonna flame ya but I will tell ya if you was to take your car with its mods and had ran mine..bone stock..It would not have been a race. With just a lid/catback I beat a Blown99GT with no problem and ran a very close race with a few stock SC'd cobra's. You car should never have been anywhere near an LS1@115 with such a small amount of mods. Im thinking your friend aint much of a driver. Not to mention I beat numerous Bolt on GT's " 99up" With a stock LT1 six speed that had a gizillion miles and I never had a problem. 02 Ram airs are easy 12 second cars and are meaner on the highway then anywhere. So I dont see hopw you could have hung to 115. :confused:

Also, with your 430 gears your all quarter. You would have ran out of gear long before 115...yet another reason the LS1 should have waxed you.
I think this race was the driver that won..Not the machine. There is simply no way.

This is the worst biased people I have ever seen...OH MY THE CAMARO CAN NEVER LOSE!!!!!Give me a break.....All of you guys saying "I've never had a problem" blah, blah, I say the same thing about you LT1 boys..........I see a lot of 13 second times in people sigs so where are all the easy 12 second cars at??? The attitude you guys have is why I bought an underdog mustang 2v, and now I'm spanking z's with it on and off the street.... :cry:

^ok, sure. Whatever you wanna believe.
You would not TOUCH a bone stock LT1, let alone an LS1 w/ a stock GT :rolleyes: Even w/ the mods you have I would be damned surprised to see you take a stock LT1/LS1

This is the worst biased people I have ever seen...OH MY THE CAMARO CAN NEVER LOSE!!!!!Give me a break.....All of you guys saying "I've never had a problem" blah, blah, I say the same thing about you LT1 boys..........I see a lot of 13 second times in people sigs so where are all the easy 12 second cars at??? The attitude you guys have is why I bought an underdog mustang 2v, and now I'm spanking z's with it on and off the street.... :cry:


"Ill be your Huckleberry"

Honestly though, I was driving a friends LS1 up at a local track up here (LACR in Palmdale) which is pretty high in elevation, and it ran a best of 13.8 on Kumho 712's before we got the boot for no helmet.. Now at this track the NHRA correction is .97 so this worked out to 13.38.. Not to shabby for an M6 stock LS1 with only a KN FIPK and cutout. The car was shedding 10ths like a mo fo before we got the boot too.. Im pretty sure that we could have gotten 13.6 out of it before the night was through if we did have a helmet.

As far as my LT1, well... My 383 was dying, things were going wrong left and right.. I went from 360rwhp to 305rwhp in the course of 10 months.. The fact of the matter is, the machine shop ****ed up and the bearings were getting chewed and the car suffered from MASSIVE amounts of blowby... Even with all these issues, and on street tires, I still managed to absoultly kill a 2000 GT on slicks.. And I do have it on video if anyone wants to see it, I just need to get the tape back from a friend so I can digitize it.

The fact of the matter is, this is a pissing contest that you guys are involved in. I like the stangs, I like the f-bodies.. Both are very nice cars in very different ways. The LS1 is beatable.. Ive beaten many, and been smoked by a few.. Ive also beaten a lot of 03+ cobras, and GT's and been beaten by a few.. They are different animals and a lot of it comes down to the driver or the sheer amount of mods..

Having said that though, I will have to say this, stock to stock, the LS1 should and will win against a 99-04 GT.. The power to weight ratio is FAR better in the LS1 than the stang, as far as stock to stock LT1, I would say that it is a drivers race, unless we are talking an auto stang to manual LT1, then I would give the advantage to the LT1.. Gearing here is far better than that of the stang.

Well.. Sorry for the length, but Im here at work, bored out of my mind, and I figured "what the hell, Ill get paid to post on the boards"

^ok, sure. Whatever you wanna believe.
You would not TOUCH a bone stock LT1, let alone an LS1 w/ a stock GT :rolleyes: Even w/ the mods you have I would be damned surprised to see you take a stock LT1/LS1


As far as lt1's go I've never heard of one running 12's stock....I run 12 second times, yes my car isn't stock, but saying a stock lt1 will beat me is down right ignorant.....Please post pics of your car, I would love to see it and I'll post pics of both of mine........

I have pics on my 110-film but I have to get them developed :(
Gimme a few days and I will see what I can do.

BTW.. hows that Malibu run?

11's on motor driven to the track........

here's a couple pics of my junk......(It's new home I know I don't have grass yet).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Roller406Bu/IMG_0030.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Roller406Bu/IMG_0028.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Roller406Bu/IMG_0025.jpg

Those are 2 very nice looking cars :)
BTW nice house