number77 08-13-2004, 12:10 AM so i was messing around trying to get figure out how to get some high quality pictures and stumbled upon these.!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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FORD SHELBY GR-1 CONCEPT
That would be the Ford Shelby GR-1 concept.
http://www.autodeadline.com/Photos?source=&model=&kw=Shelby&page=1
Enjoy. :)
number77 08-13-2004, 12:36 AM thats where i got the pics from, this isn't a repost is it? :confused:
Ramune 08-13-2004, 12:48 AM This the GT replacement as spoken of in the other thread?
morb|d 08-13-2004, 12:49 AM are they going to throw in free yoga lessons for those that can't naturally fold themselves in three just to get inside?
number77 08-13-2004, 01:02 AM notice the doors? they have a little roof on them but not as much as the ford gt, just a thought
Stealth 86 LSC 08-13-2004, 07:17 AM is there a press release with this somewhere? this just kinda like, popped up
Stealth 86 LSC 08-13-2004, 09:06 AM here we go, found it :D
article here (http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7411)
RiceEating5.0 08-13-2004, 09:44 AM are they going to throw in free yoga lessons for those that can't naturally fold themselves in three just to get inside?
LOL!!
I was just about to ask about this car. I know Guion and a few other guys were saying that a new Ford Shelby will be shown on the 12th (yesterday). I was thinking of bringing that old thread back up, but saw this.
:bow: :bow: looks good. Hope it still has the 604hp 6.4L v10 under hood.
Edit; Just read article;
"Best of all, Ford confirms that the engine installed is a V-10, as in the 605-hp Cobra concept. At that concept's introduction, Ford execs said that 700 hp for the V-10 was a distinct possibility, given more Shelby-fication."
PaperTarget 08-13-2004, 09:52 AM From the article: "The two-seat, front-engined fastback doesn't rest on the GT's haunches - it draws out a teardrop-shaped style all its own that could prove a convincing sell over the Viper or a super Corvette.
Best of all, Ford confirms that the engine installed is a V-10, as in the 605-hp Cobra concept. At that concept's introduction, Ford execs said that 700 hp for the V-10 was a distinct possibility, given more Shelby-fication."
700 hp possible :eek: Viper and "super" Corvette better be pretty bad _ss. If the rumors are true that the V-10 will find its way into the last few GT's, then I think it's 100% likely we'll see the V-10 in the GR-1 when it's built. For that matter, it could end up in a few other special vehicles.
Magnum Force 08-13-2004, 11:22 AM Ford Shelby GR-1
Preliminary Specifications
(Measurements in inches, unless otherwise noted)
Length 173.7 (4413mm)
Width 74.6 (1834mm)
Height 46.0 (1168mm)
Wheelbase 100 (2540mm)
Track Front 63.0 (1598mm)
Track Rear 61.3 (1558mm)
Front Overhang 35.6 (903mm)
Rear Overhang 38.2 (970mm)
Min. Ground Clearance 5.9 (150mm)
Curb Weight 3900 lbs est. (!!!!!!!)
Tire Size 275/40/R19 front 345/35/R19 rear
Engine Ford 6.4L V10
Max RPM 7500RPM
Horsepower 605 @ 6750RPM
Torque 501lb/ft @ 5550RPM
Transmission 6-speed transaxle with LSD
Final Drive Ratio 3.36:1
beautiful shape, but once again FoMoCo thinks that too much weight is actually a good thing...Even the Cobra Concept was a little portly at 3075 lbs., but how did they manage to add on 900 lbs on a similar frame??
jrp4uc 08-13-2004, 11:28 AM Much better than the Shelby Cobra roadster concept at NAIAS. I wish they wouldn't use that paint scheme on everything though; it takes away from the distinction of the new car and draws an inital reaction of "front-engined Ford GT."
Autoweek also has a story:
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=100607
ZZtop 08-13-2004, 12:00 PM Maybe the 3900lbs was a typo? I mean how in the world did they add 900lbs to the car while still using the same engine? The number one killer of ford cars is weight. The 04 Cobra would have run with the 04 ZO6 in a straight line if it lost 4 or 500lbs. I can understand why a Mustang GT weighs 3450lbs, similar to a camaro, but not why a Cobra or Shelby (purpose built cars) weigh as much or in many cases a lot more!
guionM 08-13-2004, 01:28 PM I saw it yesterday evening (and stayed long enough to get pretty tipsy from the free beverages). I'll post more later
Magnum Force 08-13-2004, 01:31 PM i did read in a story that the body is made of fibreglass, and if the car makes it to full production, it might use composite/CF bodywork...that could shave off at least 100 lbs, imo....
will they price this along with the viper? or will the sky be the limit ($200,000+)??
ADDENDUM
I don't think this will or should be sold as a Ford...For the performance offered, and a potentially astronomical price point, this car screams "aston martin" or "jaguar"...execs from both those companies must be crying foul today, and I'll bet there's been more than one call from Coventry to Dearborn
Z284ever 08-13-2004, 01:35 PM will they price this along with the viper? or will the sky be the limit ($200,000+)??
About $80g's
PaperTarget 08-13-2004, 01:42 PM Maybe the 3900lbs was a typo? I mean how in the world did they add 900lbs to the car while still using the same engine? The number one killer of ford cars is weight. The 04 Cobra would have run with the 04 ZO6 in a straight line if it lost 4 or 500lbs. I can understand why a Mustang GT weighs 3450lbs, similar to a camaro, but not why a Cobra or Shelby (purpose built cars) weigh as much or in many cases a lot more!
Yeah, 3900 lbs...I'm thinking typo. Especially since the V-10 is lighter than the 5.4L S/C in the GT. I seriously don't see how it could weight 3900 lbs :confused: However, being a concept it's possible.
camarobabe02 08-13-2004, 01:43 PM so is it a whole new car front engine RWD?? mid engine RWD?? just looking at picks of the car..not the specs. is it just another body and same frame
Big Als Z 08-13-2004, 02:17 PM Looks to be a bit heavy but....yes, you can quote me... I like this car. Again, Ford goes back to an old design (Daytona Coupe), but it has a lot of Aston in it, and gives it a very cool design.
Looks to be front engine, RWD. 80k might be a bit cheap for this car. I say closer to 90k. Even Dodge cant ge teh Viper below 85k. But I forgot, Ford is the best.
Magnum Force 08-13-2004, 02:17 PM front engine, rear drive
BigBlueCruiser 08-13-2004, 02:51 PM That is the best looking car I ever saw.
At $80K I'd actually try to find a way to buy one.
UNBELIEVABLE
Stealth 86 LSC 08-13-2004, 03:52 PM 3900??? god god, thats more than the curb weight of MY car!
2900 might be closer, considering the cobras weight of a little over 3k. seeing as its a hardtop, it should be less, right? maybe im totally off on this though...
christ, at 3900 that thing better have the nicest damn interior EVAR
guionM 08-13-2004, 04:04 PM Ok, finished all the work related stuff, & got a chance to post a thread about the Ford event: http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291646
First of all, the Shelby GT concept is a shell. It isn't a real car. Short of the dimensions, all other info about the car is fantasy at this point, so keep things in perspective.
It's good looking car, but in person it looks incomplete. The designer obviously spent far more time designing the front end than the rear. It has planty of detail, creases, curves, and intresting surfaces, while the back section looks like it was rushed just to go on display on time. I talked briefly to the person who designed it (I completely forgot his last name :o ), and he said it took him about a weekend to design it. Though I'm prone to do such things, ask him if the rear section was done at the very end of that weekend.
Is it an $80,000 design?
IMHO, no it isn't. It looks much like a front engine version of the Ford GT, but without Ford GT's "exotic" proportions. The Cobra concept parked about 30 feet away looks more like an $80,000 car. It doesn't have that "speak to you" feeling J. Mays remarked this new Shelby GT has, but it's a definate head turner away from the autoshow "platform". IMO a car running at that price level should have a little edge to it's looks, which this car doesn't.
It looks great. But it looks great in a Corvette or Ferrari 308 sort of way. Not a Lamborgini, Ferrari F-40, or even Ford GT kind of way.
SFireGT98 08-14-2004, 10:59 PM Nice! I like this car alot better than that Shelby roadster concept.
floorpedal1 08-14-2004, 11:47 PM does anyone else see GT-40 styling wrapped around Aston Martin shape and proportion?
not saying it isn't SWEEEET, that was just the first thing i thought of :D
RiceEating5.0 08-15-2004, 02:00 PM does anyone else see GT-40 styling wrapped around Aston Martin shape and proportion?
not saying it isn't SWEEEET, that was just the first thing i thought of :D
I did!! :eek:
Magnum Force 08-16-2004, 11:10 AM great shape...although it doesn't make the statement that the GT-40 (which has no equal) does, it is still very elegant and tasteful...almost italian-looking. The obviously pulled a lot of cues from other cars, like the Mercury Messinger concept, and Aston-Martin...The original Daytona Coupe is another one of the all-time great auto body shapes...
But on another note, I'm growing weary of Ford concepts simply modernizing classics from their past...It shows a lack of original thinking, IMO. Who here remembers the outside-the-box outrageousness of the Ford Indigo Concept?? What will it take for them to return to that design philosophy??
Indelibility 08-23-2004, 06:17 PM Well the original Shelby Concept was priced right ar $100,000. If this is the replacement for the previous concept, but with added luxories and more metal, I don't see how it could go down in price. But it shouldn't really go up that much either. So I'm guesing on what I've read in Autoweek, this car should be around $100,000.
AxeGrinder30thZ 08-23-2004, 07:22 PM does anyone else see GT-40 styling wrapped around Aston Martin shape and proportion?
not saying it isn't SWEEEET, that was just the first thing i thought of :D
Dang it. You beat me to it. I'm impressed with the engine, but not the body. Looks like a ripped off Aston Martin to me. :confused:
1fastdog 08-23-2004, 07:54 PM I figure the car will probably make production. What Ford puts forth on this how right now is "vaporware".
I'm interested in what they see as being a 21st century car rather than a smoothing of a 1965 approach.
The Cobra Daytona coupe was a sweet piece, right where it needed to be.
We will see if Fomoco has build it or "buzz" it in mind.
RiceEating5.0 08-24-2004, 01:02 AM But on another note, I'm growing weary of Ford concepts simply modernizing classics from their past...It shows a lack of original thinking, IMO. Who here remembers the outside-the-box outrageousness of the Ford Indigo Concept?? What will it take for them to return to that design philosophy??
True, but how many people would put down the big bucks on a new sport car with no history or heritage??? Gotta understand, history and mystique are the two biggest marketing tools when it comes to exotic.
Someone asked in another thread...would Chryslers new 5.7 be so popular without the Hemi badging/designation?? I don’t think so. The simple word “Hemi” has people laying hundreds on the table. Same rule applies here. How many people would put down 6 figures on just any Ford?? Not many, but on a Ford “GT/GT40”??? Now we’re talking. People recognize this car, and its place in supercar/automotive history. Ford is just banking on this recognition. Can’t blame them for playing it safe.
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