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Air Fuel Ratio in Free Scan???

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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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Air Fuel Ratio in Free Scan???

How do I tell what my Air fuel ratio is in Free Scan?

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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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Its on the Engine Data tab, but I've never seen it work.
Old Sep 25, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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Mine don't work either

I can not get it to work either. I heard that Datamaster's A/F thing works- I'll have to check it out
Old Sep 25, 2002 | 11:41 AM
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The problem is that as far as I know it still takes the info from the stock O2 sensors.
The A/F ratio would not be reliable enough to tune on but if you were just curious about a rough A/F ratio it would work.
Old Sep 25, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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Thanks,

So the only thing that would work is something like the FAST system that has its own wide band?
Old Sep 26, 2002 | 07:16 AM
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That or maybe just take it to a Dyno shop that uses a Wideband.
I would be more inclined to find a Dyno.
You can do a hell of a lot of pulls for the price of a FAST system.
Old Sep 26, 2002 | 07:33 AM
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The problem is that as far as I know it still takes the info from the stock O2 sensors.
The A/F ratio would not be reliable enough to tune on but if you were just curious about a rough A/F ratio it would work.

In Open loop it does not use the O2 sensors (correct me if I'm wrong), it uses calculation in tables instead.

But I would't buy a whole new stand alone PCM. I think you can buy good A/F gauges and tune off of that.
Old Sep 26, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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In Open loop it does not use the O2 sensors (correct me if I'm wrong), it uses calculation in tables instead.

But I would't buy a whole new stand alone PCM. I think you can buy good A/F gauges and tune off of that.
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You are right about Open loop. The O2 are not used, however I personally wouldn't want to make a very drastic change by relying on the O2 or the table.
When tunning for power you are always better off tuning from a dyno with a wideband. The conditions are repeatable and therefore more accurate.
A lot of people just set the A/F vs coolant temp table to 65* and then adjust the A/F vs RPM. This takes one variable out of the mix. Dr. Drudge has done this and could probably explain it better than I can.

You can tune A/F any way you would like but I would always stay on the side of caution, being a little rich never hurt anyone.
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