Because an LT1 can't do what an LS1 can do. New technology vs. OLD technolgy. Why LT1 front end then?? Because the LT1 SS front end looks better than the LS1 front end.

Direct ignition.
Better block design
better head options
better intake options
better exhaust options
easier to work on
last year made(2002 vs. 1993-2001)


How to make it sound like an LT1 but have the performance of an C5R?? One word, IRON.


Like I said, it is a REAL SS and it will stay an SS and will be signed and documented by SLP Engineering and GM's Scott Settlemire. He also hopes to get the famed GM Jon Moss to sign it.

 

Oh and the car has never been "Hit" so I dont know where you got that from.

 

"better exhaust options" - how so?

"easier to work on" - once again, how so?

"last year made(2002 vs. 1993-2001)" - if that makes it better, than why make it look older?

This just confuses the hell out of me. If you put that much money into a LT1, it will do the same thing. Sure, LS1's are better from the factory, but when you modifying a car that much, an LT1 can do the same thing.

And one of the reasons the LS1 was better was the lightweight aluminum block. Why go to cast iron just for sound?

I guess like 95GRNZ said, to each his own.

 

The only comment I am going to address is the easier to work on.

Have you ever changed rocker arms on an LT1? How bout the LS1? You would know what I am talking about then. The LS1 has self adjusting capability to where all you do it tighten all the rockers down to a certain torque all at one time. With the LT series you have to turn over the motor, tighten a few, then turn it again, tighten a few more, and then repeat because they dont like to stay at tight. LS1= A LOT easier to deal with.

Have you ever done headers on an LT? How about the LS? I have done both and the LS headers are a LOT easier to do.

Have you ever change plug wires on an LT? How about the LS? The LS you can take them all off without labeling them and put them all right back on in a matter of minutes. The LT wires you have to make sure they all go back the correct way and they all have to be routed just right= PITA!

Exhaust options, your right they are about the same except for header install difficulty that I already discribed.

 

Im your huckleberry!! With me and my lil ol "bad technology" LT1!! Hint....."better run better than a 6.40 in the 1/8th!!!"

 

It'll be in the 5's. The SS we are temporarily putting the engine in ran a 7.2 with a TC and a cam. The engine will be in that car until we finish his body work and wheels.

6's are for girls.

 

Who said I run 6's??

 

Nobody did, but why did you choose 6.4?? Why not 6.0?? I am going to have to go with you being in the 6's. If your not in the 6's then what is your power adder?? You have to be running N20 or an SC. After all you do have an MN6.

 

Well.....my new engine is almost complete also......Ill just keep it at that......

laters

Tony Shepherd

 

First off, changing the ls1 block is not going to make it sound like an LT1. The block has nothing to do with it. The fireing orders are completely different. That is where the basis of the tone and sound comes from.

Second, with my longtubes on my car, I can change my plugs in 20 minutes. About the same time on an LS1. Granted, the LT1 manifolds do make the job a bit longer (about an hour at most).

Third, Once it comes down to it (i.e modifying a motor) there is not much difference between the LT1 and LS1. There are alot more heads and cam LS1's running 10's. But look at the fastest Fbodies at the shootouts. Most that win are LT1. And dont give me that crap about them being out for 5 more years because 422 C5's and All bore 382 LS1 fbodies are a dime a dozen. The LS1 market is at it's performance peak.

I think that both LT1 and LS1 cars are badass. I just like Fbodies. I just don't see the need to be prejudice, especially when you don't know what you're talking aobut.

 

First of all he told me it was a '02 and SECOND HE TOLD ME HE GOT "HIT" and i think we are proly talking about a different car cause i have seen him driving it before it was "HIT" with an LS1 front end it was lowered with im guessing 315 nitto555 on silver zr-1 wheels and it sounded like he had a cut out and if you say this guy pulled on a pewter ss by 2 cars(i was right on his rear) then why would he give me cause i would of not

 

The only time he talked to you was at 40mph on I 30 going east. He gives everyone thumbs up that doesnt act like a moron. You gave it your best shot so he gave you one. Second, it was cam'd with a dumped bullet so of course it sounded like a cut-out. The car had polished ZR1's before the silver ones and the silver ones went on while the car didnt even have a front end at all. It had BFG Comp T/A Drags on it when ya'll went.

That is the only silver SS with a white LT1 front end, nobody else seems to be able to stomache taking apart an '02 SS.

 

Riiight...And who would you be? Enlighten me on this, please. Especially since he has never said this before. And rides in a certain 95 frequently.

No, really, who are you? Why are you talking about D in the third person? Please, let me know. D would know that that post was a joke, as I have told him that before repeatedly. You obviously do not. So therefore, you are either Derek after a serious head injury, or not him at all. I'd like to know.

And to all of you who are making stupid comments about putting an LT1 front end on an LS1...It's called a sleeper. Most people('03 Cobras, H/C LS1, or even mildly modded LS1's) see an Lt1 and think "Easy Kill", because, honestly, most LT1's on the road are not fast, compared to stock LS1's. A4 2.73 LT1 cars are plentiful, and they are not much faster than stock 99 GT's, if at all.

Also, it's his car. He likes it. That's what truly matters. I personally agree, the 93-97's have a better look. I really think the ultimate 4thgen Camaro is the LT4 30th SS. Best looking and sounding, IMHO.

Derek is the only one out there like this. His car is not slow. My 98 A4 with 3.42's and 313/334 could barely keep up at all, when he was with 3.23's and stock CME exhaust. Now, he's lighter and better flowing. LS1 young gun, that was Derek. There are no others like that in D/FW.

 

Im sure hes just going for the "sleeper" look

 

uhhhh, I don't think so....I highly doubt the LS1 has seen its peak yet with the only real option for an intake being the LS6 intake which limits the LS1 head to ~265cfm....I forsee a HUGE gain in power/ET in the near future with the new FAST intake coming out....the intake on LS1's are a HUGE bottle neck!

and yes I am aware that sheetmetal intakes are out there but to 99% of people out there that cant afford the 2-3+G's for one it is kinda hard to get past the bottle neck

LS1's just began to see 8 second timeslips and 9's are just starting to become a common thing....

I think we still have a ways to go before anyone trully maxes out LS1 potential