Why is new 3800 so slow?
I know I'm used to my Z-28, but my mom (yes my mom) just bought a new '02 Camaro with the 3800. My wife has a '97 Grand Prix GT with the 3800 and it seems so much faster-my wife even says it seems much faster. The Camaro claims 200 HP, while the Grand Prix claims 195 HP stock. I figured maybe it's just not broke in, but we drove it from Texas to Florida, and back and it feels the same. It has 3,400 miles on it now. Has anyone else drove a Grand Prix and a Camaro with the 3800 and compared them. I am just very curious why this is so. It is a beautiful car though-my mom loves it!
Also, what do they usually run in the 1/4?
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1990 Camaro RS 350 Black Ttop
Black/Grey Interior
'91 Z28 Spoiler and Hood, '92 Z28 Wheels
A4,2 Chamber Flowmaster, 160 stat
1995 Camaro Z28 Conv. Patriot Red M6
Tan Top-Tan leather interior
17" ZR-1 Wheels on BFG 275/40/ZR17's
LT-4 Hot Cam, 1.6 rockers, springs, MAC Headers,
FASTCHIP reprogram (Ed Wright), 160 stat
2 Chamber Flowmaster, 3" Flowtech Cutout
1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GT Red (Wife's Car)
3.8L V-6
Graphite Leather Int. Loaded to the core
[This message has been edited by ryan75 (edited August 14, 2002).]
Also, what do they usually run in the 1/4?
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1990 Camaro RS 350 Black Ttop
Black/Grey Interior
'91 Z28 Spoiler and Hood, '92 Z28 Wheels
A4,2 Chamber Flowmaster, 160 stat
1995 Camaro Z28 Conv. Patriot Red M6
Tan Top-Tan leather interior
17" ZR-1 Wheels on BFG 275/40/ZR17's
LT-4 Hot Cam, 1.6 rockers, springs, MAC Headers,
FASTCHIP reprogram (Ed Wright), 160 stat
2 Chamber Flowmaster, 3" Flowtech Cutout
1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GT Red (Wife's Car)
3.8L V-6
Graphite Leather Int. Loaded to the core
[This message has been edited by ryan75 (edited August 14, 2002).]
GM over-rates the V6 Camaro. Gears might play into it if she has a A4 with 3.08 gears. I know my Camaro felt like a slug when I first got it. Modding it really helps though...
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-Nathan
1996 Camaro
3.8L Series II, SLP CAI, Catco cat, Taylor 8mm wires, LSD, 3.42 gears, Borla catback.
1995 Dodge Stealth R/T
Twin Turbo Intercooled 3.0L AWD M6,A'PEXi AVC-R boost control, HKS Blow-off valve, K&N FIPK, Denso Iridium plugs, 245/40/18 Kumho Supra, Borla Catback, Mobil 1 fluids.
*VVvvTTttFFff* TNC since 1981!
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-Nathan
1996 Camaro
3.8L Series II, SLP CAI, Catco cat, Taylor 8mm wires, LSD, 3.42 gears, Borla catback.
1995 Dodge Stealth R/T
Twin Turbo Intercooled 3.0L AWD M6,A'PEXi AVC-R boost control, HKS Blow-off valve, K&N FIPK, Denso Iridium plugs, 245/40/18 Kumho Supra, Borla Catback, Mobil 1 fluids.
*VVvvTTttFFff* TNC since 1981!
True, but I don't think my wife's car has low gears though. Probably about the same. It is pretty quick-maybe it's a freak, but I really thought the Camaro would be faster. I still wander...is it normal?
OK I'll give the GP a go...Where Oh Texas sorry dude j/k.But you'll have me lookin for a GP at a stop light now,Wont happen for the GP,close but no cigar.
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Hella Clean Dark Green Metallic 98 3.8 L60E Coupe:Fast toys Ram Air,Holly filter,Whisper lid,160 Thermo,Man.fan switch,Purple ice wetter,Eibach Pros,Koni adjustables,BMR sways,Prothane bushins,Transgo kit,Magnaflow cat-back.National Auto Sport ***. member/student.
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Hella Clean Dark Green Metallic 98 3.8 L60E Coupe:Fast toys Ram Air,Holly filter,Whisper lid,160 Thermo,Man.fan switch,Purple ice wetter,Eibach Pros,Koni adjustables,BMR sways,Prothane bushins,Transgo kit,Magnaflow cat-back.National Auto Sport ***. member/student.
my dads car had aout 7k when I ran a 15.8, with a bad alunch, problab ecould squeze a 15.6-7 out of it dead stock if I drive it more hten jsut one day.
Autos? not sure, I was helping a girl with a launched in here stock 2000 auto firebird. her first time out, she not a great driver and mandged a 16 flat.
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-Eric
1994 Medium Quaser Blue Camaro 3.4L V6 w/ 5-speed
Stock blocked, boltons only.
15.696@86.22 with a 2.214 60'!
Best R/T .507 Best 60' 2.078
Father's Stock 2000 Navy Blue Camaro 3.8L V6 w/ 5-speed
15.875@88.25 With wheel spin in 1st
3.4L F-body where 15s are fast....
www.fbodyv6.com
www.firebirdv6.com
www.camaroz28.com
AIM: MustangEater82
Autos? not sure, I was helping a girl with a launched in here stock 2000 auto firebird. her first time out, she not a great driver and mandged a 16 flat.
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-Eric
1994 Medium Quaser Blue Camaro 3.4L V6 w/ 5-speed
Stock blocked, boltons only.
15.696@86.22 with a 2.214 60'!
Best R/T .507 Best 60' 2.078
Father's Stock 2000 Navy Blue Camaro 3.8L V6 w/ 5-speed
15.875@88.25 With wheel spin in 1st
3.4L F-body where 15s are fast....
www.fbodyv6.com
www.firebirdv6.com
www.camaroz28.com
AIM: MustangEater82
Hey man my mom has a brand new Grand Prix gt and I have a 97 camaro rs. I got my mom to let me take her car out one night and I had my buddy take mine out.. My Rs smoked the hell out of it. I dont know why your 3.8 seems so slow but the Grand Prix should have nothin on it
you say it feels slower, the camaro has stiffer suspension, and that will make a car feel slower than it accually is, i have never ridden in or drove a grand prix but i would imagine that the suspen would have something to do with it, look at the spedo next time you drive them, it might all be in your head
-ATL
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3.4L '93 camaro
stock(gurrr)Fabricating new hood (woo hoo)
Pioneer 200 watt amp hooked up to 2 pioneer truck wedges (in the hatch)
my site
-ATL
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3.4L '93 camaro
stock(gurrr)Fabricating new hood (woo hoo)
Pioneer 200 watt amp hooked up to 2 pioneer truck wedges (in the hatch)
my site
I've driven both extensive test driving when i bought my camaro. I noticed the fwd of the Grand Prix gave it more punch of the line, but i lost it over 60km's, when the maro started to pull.
There's nothing all wrong with the 3800 in the Camaro's, it's the rear end on the A4's. 3.08 gears just kill that car.
That aside, all cars are different, you could have a oddly fast GP, or a lemon of a Camaro. Stuff happens
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1997 silver Camaro RS
SLP CAI, 2 1/2" dual Ravin! exhaust, b&m shift improver, SLP air temp mod, 180 thermo.
http://members.rogers.com/ravenp
There's nothing all wrong with the 3800 in the Camaro's, it's the rear end on the A4's. 3.08 gears just kill that car.
That aside, all cars are different, you could have a oddly fast GP, or a lemon of a Camaro. Stuff happens

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1997 silver Camaro RS
SLP CAI, 2 1/2" dual Ravin! exhaust, b&m shift improver, SLP air temp mod, 180 thermo.
http://members.rogers.com/ravenp
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ravenp:
you could have a oddly fast GP, or a lemon of a Camaro. Stuff happens
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you could have a oddly fast GP, or a lemon of a Camaro. Stuff happens

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[This message has been edited by ryan75 (edited August 15, 2002).]
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