I hear ya on that one. I didn't know gears could make a GT go from a 14.0 to a 12.9. That's eleven tenths! If only my LT1 responded so well to mods! I suppose a full intake and exhaust will take it right into the elevens

 

The old Cobras run very close to 99+ GT's stock which have been high 13's by a few in good weather. Another time I was with the same guy in the same car against a 98 Cobra with only flowmasters, and that was basically a driver's race. The Cobra beat the Z28 once but barely, and the 2nd time, the Z28 got the better launch and held the 1 carlength lead to 110. Compared to the 99 Cobra with the same engine and hp (Ford rated them higher, but due to poor machining in the intake manifolds and exhaust, power was the same as 96-98, and this style weight slightly more) that annihilated the 97 Z with 4.33's and a couple bolt ons, I don't see why 4.10's could knock off 6tenths or more. Any of the 4.6's respond very well to gears because of the lack of low end. I probably should have clarified, but I was also assuming a GT would have bolt ons as well like headers, exhaust, CAI, and a tune/ship like the Bullet mentinoed in this thread. I know 4.6's don't respond as well to bolt ons as our cars do, but they still ad some power.

Jason

 

You guys need to go over to modulardepot.com and see where the real 2-valve modular stangs owners hang. Check out the et list and see how many 12 second stangs are on there with bolt-ons only. A 4.30 gear is the best mod to any modular powered mustang. My 00 gt is the first ford I ever owned and love this car. Yes the LS1 is more powerful and I respect them, but the 99-04 stangs are underated to say the least. My car runs 12.80's at 106.04 all day long with no headers, and stock cams and intake. Now granted thats with a 5000 rpm launch but hey these cars have no low end.

 

I saw a newer GT, an Anniversy one, with 4.10's run a massive 14.3 sec 1/4 mile WHOA, look out! I raced him around town later this summer, spanked him hard, with just my catback. Heh, I'm not impressed.

-Dustin-

 

And who said that the SS was a better performer than the Z28?

Don't be a troll.

 

Never say never. I know of at least one documented case of a Bullitt going 13.3 with Nittos and a K&N. Nothing else. That's not 12.9, but it was stock gear, stock exhaust, stock everything else.

Several lightly-modded, "bolt-on" 2Vs have gone 12s. Typically, it requires gears, slicks, exhaust, pullies, intake, etc.

 

As opposed to the massive performance difference between a Z28 and SS??

Theres alot more options on the SS as opposed to the bullit that would warrant the higher price...theres no secret that the z28 and the SS perform similar..but thanks

The old Cobras run very close to 99+ GT's stock

Ahh not this again....tell me the last 2v GT that trapped 104-106 mph through the quarter stock which the 96-01 Cobra has done...In equal drivers hands the 4v will lay the smack down.

 

Didn't sound like one. It looked like you were trying to start another flame war.

Work on your sarcasm.

 

And I saw a guy on here run a 14.7 @ 97 in a stock LT1.
Yep, pretty fast.

 

Well with all the folks explaining how these GT's with 4.10's are 12 second cars I thought I'd chime in with an example of one in the 1/4 mile and that I raced. I guess your arguement might be valid if I, or anyone else in this post or website were to say stock LT1's run 12's stock, but you dont hear me saying that, do you? Stock LT1's are 14 or 13 second cars, everyone knows this and no one claims they arent. Yes, I can drive my 13 second LT1 and make it a 16 second car if I want. The point isnt how slow the car is, its how fast it is. In this case I am just trying to figure out how the 14 second GT/4.10's with a good driver cant break 13's when everyone says they are 12 second cars? I'll believe it when I see it. But thanks for the intelligent post with all the additional insight it brought.

-Dustin-

 

I can't agree more.. Thats the same question I have been asking myself since this whole thing started

 

Come on down to Beech Bend in Bowlingreen and I'll demonstrate...

 

Oh ok, you have a pure stock GT with 4.10's? Running 12's? Have a timeslip or video you can show me? I wouldnt say this is an impossibility but I havent seen it done, in fact I've seen it NOT done.

-Dustin-

 

A GT with 4.30's and the mods are in my sig..........

 

Wow, sounds just like the Stock GT with 4.10's that everyone else is talking about.

Lets get this all figured out...You have a GT with 4.30's and other significant mods. How are you "demonstrating" how a Stock GT with 4.10's runs 12's? I guess with that kind of logic I can demonstrate how a stock LT1 with 2.73's runs mid to low 13's and smokes 2000+ Lightnings with mods in sig.

I think you are running out of legs to stand on, even if you are sitting on a 4 legged pony.

-Dustin-