Last I checked we were playing catch up to the heavier car still in stock form and most don't leave them stock long.

Thats why I said just go FI and be several car lengths ahead of most instead of a car length ahead with a stock or mildly modded Cobra.

 

ok.

 

The 03/04 cobra is a COMPLETE diffrent animal then the 97 you raced.

 

I went 12.6@112mph bone stock, on stock F1's, in ~70* air with matching humidity. I ran as fast at 115.8mph in my bone stock '03.
I beat several LS1 F-bodies and two Z06's when the car was stock. In fact, somebody posting in this very thread saw my taillights (twice) in their modded LS1 (small cam, exhaust, DR's) on two passes from a dig. As with any car, a bad driver can negate an obvious advantage.

Very, very, very few stock LS1 F-bodies ever go 12's...despite internet hype to the contrary. The quickest documented time that I know of for an '03/'04 Cobra is 12.3. It was not the MM&FF pass by Evan Smith...that was a 12.4. I'd say, equal drivers, the LS1 is going to be about .5-.7 slower than an '03/'04 Cobra.

And if you're going to compare an FI'd LS1/LS2 to an '03/'04 Cobra, then compare it to a nicely modded bolt-on Cobra, or a KB/Whipple Cobra. KB/Whipple car will make mid-500rwhp with no other mods (supporting fuel mods notwithstanding) and run mid-11's in the 122-124mph range.
S.

 

But sometimes it's not enough...eh?
S.

 

 

i needed a driver mod.

 

That's a very interesting point. Wrong, but interesting. Hell, I beat an LS1 just two days ago from stoplight to stoplight. Oh, and get this. I'm stock and N/A.
Weird.

 

I see somethings never change

 

just like you and your BS.


dont comment on things you have no clue about.



sorry,then youd never be able to post.

 

Yeah, yeah.....and the only way Chevy can beat Ford is with more displacement.




Look, a stock Cobra will eat a stock LS1.......period!
End of discussion and end of excuses.

The only way to beat a stock Cobra is to do quite a bit of aftermarket work to an LS1.

On the same token, someone in a Honda can also do alot of aftermarket work, and beat a stock LS1.

.....So then the debate moves into price to mod.

The Honda owner will need to spend half a year's salary to match the stock LS1.

The LS1 owner (though not nearlyas severe as the Honda) is going to need quite a bit of financial investment to match the Cobra.

But then, the Cobra owner can then purchase a $20 pulley, install it in 15 minutes, and smoke you all over again.

No matter how you cut it the Cobra wins.

The IRS hurts it off the line, but like was said already, from a roll, or anything beyond 25-30 feet, your a** belongs to the guy in the Cobra.

You'd fare better going after Mach1s.



Before you start whining that I must be a Mustang owner, see my signature.

 

this should even things out.


for C5s now but fbody kits will soon follow.


http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=362816

 

This post should be put in the running for camaroz28.com most idiotic post of the year award

I forgot 03/03 Cobras are the fastest cars in the world. Quit talking out of your ***. It does not take "quite a bit of financial investment" for an LS1 to match a cobra. Cobras are not gods gift to earth. You act like only cobra owners mod their car

 

I agreed with you up until here. You're definition of "quite a bit of financial investment" might be different than mine, but it doesn't take that much money (in my opinion) to take out a STOCK cobra.

 

The only thing in question in guionM's post is the definition of "significant".
Equally driven, a stock LS1 F-body won't beat a stock '03/'04 Cobra...and I don't care how many magazines or BS internet stories you've read.
S.