SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
Originally Posted by vin1382
Evan Smith ran it to a 12.4. its in a published article.
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
You're gonna need about 50 rwhp more. The easiest way would be nitrous. Those 03-04 Cobras are no joke. My old room mate bought one, and he hung with me on the street with me on the motor. All he had done aftermarket was an H-pipe. His front bumper stayed on my door to rear quarter panel. On the bottle, it wasn't even close.
ZMAN
ZMAN
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
Originally Posted by 00Z28SS
That's a hell of a run. But I'm at the track often and they just aren't pulling times that low(from what I've seen). Don't get me wrong, they are bad a$$ cars and I'm not doubting how fast they are. Is Evan Smith the one who pulled a 12.8 in a stock LS1?
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
At the pontiac pro stock superbowl in baytown this past feb(it think it was feb) saw a couple of them running 9's but by this time they were 03 "mustangs" any way it was a mod motor of some form with an aftmarket kenne bell. As far as the "well if you supercharge an ls1" argument the point there is the factory didnt make one
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
if you go and consider the costs of an ls1 f-body to a 03 up cobra, the cobras are most of the time $10,000 more, ATLEAST. so u cant get mad if the ls1 is slower stock. spend that 10,000 on ur ls1 and you could make him eat your dust.
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
Originally Posted by z28spd
if you go and consider the costs of an ls1 f-body to a 03 up cobra, the cobras are most of the time $10,000 more, ATLEAST. so u cant get mad if the ls1 is slower stock. spend that 10,000 on ur ls1 and you could make him eat your dust.
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
As I stated previously in this thread about who would win if it was a cobra against a supercharged SS...
My point in saying that is that although our f-bodies may be a tad slower stock, it doesn't matter because cobra's already have a power adder.
And thanks for telling me it was a lame argument. I was merely pointing out that the only way ford can make they're mustang's beat us is with a blower.
My point in saying that is that although our f-bodies may be a tad slower stock, it doesn't matter because cobra's already have a power adder.
And thanks for telling me it was a lame argument. I was merely pointing out that the only way ford can make they're mustang's beat us is with a blower.
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
Originally Posted by ZMAN Z28
You're gonna need about 50 rwhp more. The easiest way would be nitrous. Those 03-04 Cobras are no joke. My old room mate bought one, and he hung with me on the street with me on the motor. All he had done aftermarket was an H-pipe. His front bumper stayed on my door to rear quarter panel. On the bottle, it wasn't even close.
ZMAN
ZMAN
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
Originally Posted by Camaro Rick
As I stated previously in this thread about who would win if it was a cobra against a supercharged SS...
My point in saying that is that although our f-bodies may be a tad slower stock, it doesn't matter because cobra's already have a power adder.
And thanks for telling me it was a lame argument. I was merely pointing out that the only way ford can make they're mustang's beat us is with a blower.
My point in saying that is that although our f-bodies may be a tad slower stock, it doesn't matter because cobra's already have a power adder.
And thanks for telling me it was a lame argument. I was merely pointing out that the only way ford can make they're mustang's beat us is with a blower.
. its a very lame arguement. you really think ford engineers couldnt build a car capable of beating a lousy 350 hp v8 car if they wanted to? they have a tiny 5.0 engine that makes over 400 hp NA. GM has to use more displacement to get that much hp..so GM sucks.
not only did they beat us f-body people..they completely destroyed us with that 03-04 cobra. it takes ALOT of mods just to run with a stock one...and then you have to factor in how easy it is to modify that thing to put it out of reach for must of us that dont have deep pockets. that car was a home run for enthusiasts.
i've heard that GM is putting out a new camaro concept this january at an auto show...hopefully we get something that can compete again. looking forward to it very much.
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
Originally Posted by falchulk
Some ls1's run 320 to 330rwhp stock. If your 357 beat him out on the engine alone, all he would need is 20 or 30. I think the Cobra would still win even with 357rwhp in the camaro personally.
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
said by vin1382: so GM sucks.
anyone else catch that?
I think GM did a splendid job producing the LS1 man. get outta here if you think otherwise.
Of course I'd give credit to ford engineers for producing a 400 hp 5.0 NA block. But I haven't seen it in any street legal car produced by them...oh wait...didn't GM just start putting the LS2 in newer cars that makes 400 hp?
Another thing that's been brought up in here is that the cobra costs an extra $10,000. I think I'd rather have my SS for what I paid. I definitely don't have a deep pocket, but i'm sure anyone with a cobra doesn't have one either...right?
Ahh. whatever, I give up. This argument is going nowhere.
Sorry for wasting your time since my argument has been so extremely lame.
anyone else catch that?
I think GM did a splendid job producing the LS1 man. get outta here if you think otherwise.
Of course I'd give credit to ford engineers for producing a 400 hp 5.0 NA block. But I haven't seen it in any street legal car produced by them...oh wait...didn't GM just start putting the LS2 in newer cars that makes 400 hp?
Another thing that's been brought up in here is that the cobra costs an extra $10,000. I think I'd rather have my SS for what I paid. I definitely don't have a deep pocket, but i'm sure anyone with a cobra doesn't have one either...right?
Ahh. whatever, I give up. This argument is going nowhere.
Sorry for wasting your time since my argument has been so extremely lame.
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
Originally Posted by 00Z28SS
I think the cobra's stock times drop lower by the day. I haven't seen a STOCK 03-04 cobra run low 12's ever.
Re: SS vs. 03-04 Cobra
[QUOTE=vin1382]
. its a very lame arguement. you really think ford engineers couldnt build a car capable of beating a lousy 350 hp v8 car if they wanted to? they have a tiny 5.0 engine that makes over 400 hp NA. GM has to use more displacement to get that much hp..so GM sucks.
since when is a 5.0 tiny? And whos engine has been around the longest, thats right the 5.7 350. Obviously a reason for it.
"not only did they beat us f-body people..they completely destroyed us with that 03-04 cobra. it takes ALOT of mods just to run with a stock one...and then you have to factor in how easy it is to modify that thing to put it out of reach for must of us that dont have deep pockets. that car was a home run for enthusiasts."
I agree they beat GM in 03-04 by not having a "mid-level" sports car like the F-bod to compete with the stangs. Now comparing a 2002 car with a brand new 03-04? Come on. Obviously they are new and improved. The 03-04 cobra "easily" modded is not out of reach by any means. It was a homerun to the Ford name though. I respect that car for sure.
. its a very lame arguement. you really think ford engineers couldnt build a car capable of beating a lousy 350 hp v8 car if they wanted to? they have a tiny 5.0 engine that makes over 400 hp NA. GM has to use more displacement to get that much hp..so GM sucks.
since when is a 5.0 tiny? And whos engine has been around the longest, thats right the 5.7 350. Obviously a reason for it.
"not only did they beat us f-body people..they completely destroyed us with that 03-04 cobra. it takes ALOT of mods just to run with a stock one...and then you have to factor in how easy it is to modify that thing to put it out of reach for must of us that dont have deep pockets. that car was a home run for enthusiasts."
I agree they beat GM in 03-04 by not having a "mid-level" sports car like the F-bod to compete with the stangs. Now comparing a 2002 car with a brand new 03-04? Come on. Obviously they are new and improved. The 03-04 cobra "easily" modded is not out of reach by any means. It was a homerun to the Ford name though. I respect that car for sure.


