both cars are modifed, the video is dark, but is very clear to realize who's is the champion on this particular race

3 out of 3 races btw

http://home.comcast.net/~spapazian23..._vs_Mach_1.wmv

redcamaro your in h.b?
my buddy rolls around in a mystic saleen with a procharger and a plate that reads udreamin, have you seen it? hes crazy, he gets it washed at that hand carwash on beach and main st and he rips it HARD whenever he gos out of there everyone has there mouth open.

if i was you i would switch sides,so the camera man is not filming across the driver. just my opinion.

Too bad the mach1 driver is a cocky *******. He said some other things on another forum and he had his own kind against him. Its a nice vid though.

Ive seen that already. Someone posted this on the SCFYB which is our state F body board. I call BS on this. There is no way that SS Camaro had all those mods and got beat. I say it was stock and the Mach 1 had more than listed. Mach 1's dont normally rev up that fast. I think the guy was spraying.

Great video if you like videos where you can't see anything. Besides the Mach 1 has better mods done to it and steeper gears.

- Z28WannaB

Something's not right with that.

Could just be crappy Camaro driver, I guess.

But I have a hard time believing he beat the car, and not the driver.- Maybe it's the whole "He doesn't have a chance" thing. Since when has the LS1 never had a chance against the N/A 32V?

Like Garbage said, he's cocky bas****. BTW, What did he say on the forum that made him hated?

There's def. something weird with that Camaro, it just didnt seem to pull that hard even though the Mach was modded.

he pulled to hard, the SS prob had the street legal shortie headers thro the factory "SLP" cat back. Still i think there is some BS there, my buddie with a '00 WS6 M6 with lid, and a cut out. beat a Mach 1 with a OR H pipe, bassini exhuast, and K&N intake. And my buddies car doesn't even run that fast. But those 4.10 gears sure do help the stangs

i haven't seen the car yet , and i'm not in that video. i just found it at svtperformance.

There is quite a lenghty discussion about this going on at svtperformance.


http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...hreadid=112796

why is so hard to believe???, both cars are close in power. i'd say the camaro is putting down 330rwhp with headers and 3.73 gears, the mach is putting at least 300rwhp + 4.10gears. auto or not, the mach was simply faster, the camaro may walk away in the long run, perhaps after 120-130mph, it does have more hp, but a mach 1 won't need a nos system or a supercharger to do what this one did to the any other similar powered ls1 fbody.

also, this is not a personal attack ok, just a little explanation :
ltponykilla, a 32v mach 1 engine would rev faster in every gear specially with 4.10 gears (stock is 3.55),has a better tranny gear ratio than any ls1 fbody vehicle, has better bottom end power than a 99/01 cobra and also a 6800rpm redline, what made you say it won't rev that fast

cahill93z, just because your friend beat a mach 1 doesn't mean every ls1 fbody would beat mach's, one more time assuming similar power levels, most of the time is a driver race, we know the camaro has more power so eventually would walk away on the top end. but how many street races go higher than 120-130mph. check on ls1.com and svtperformance.com, do a search on user mach1dsg. he was able to beat a 2002 ss camaro by about half car going from a roll. the camaro was auto and had intake and exhaust done. my friend mach is 5 speed, he only has an slp catback. driver or not driver, i don't think you would need to much skills to go from a roll driving an automatic 2002 ss camaro with 3.42 gears.

i know, is getting crazy right now

Im not gona start an arguement with the people calling bs. This is a camaro board, as far as theyre concered the ls1 is UNBEATABLE. Especially by a tiny 281.

thats a made up video everyone knows ls1's never lose

Because a gear swap doesn't make a car instantly leap out in front of a car that will normally outrun it like that...

...nice passes on the juice though.