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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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Re: my bolt-on LT1 vs two LS1's------>

Originally Posted by CamaroGuy22
What? Uhh well me for starters, I only have one track time and it was in not so great weather.
All that means is you should get to the track a little more. But this wasn't about your track times. I still bet his time was a best run produced after a number of runs and a few different days/nights.


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My Cold air and catback Vert LT1 trapped 101. Do you think a Full exhaust cammed LT1 should trap 102????? His time in the sig quotes before gears/chip. Which from reading that I gather he did that run on stock tune...which would hurt performance quite a bit.
I don't think he had the cam when these races occured. This story was resurrected from the dead and I'm pretty sure at that time all he had was exhaust and stall. So his 102 trap was right (for those mods) and his story was unbelievable (again for those mods).

Originally Posted by CamaroGuy22
Get off of your LS1 horse. I have a friend that has a 99 trans am with jet hot longtubes, ORY, and SLP loudmouth, and lid and runs consitant 13.2's@106 with 2.0 60' in 1,500 DA. Another guy with an LS1 has lid,magnaflow cat-back and ran a 12.90@108 with a 1.97 60' in 4,000 DA (Both A4's). Not ALL LS1's are low 13 second cars stock, and not all LS1's are created equal.
Then it either sucks to be your friend or your just making that number up to try and justify your argument. LS1's under moderate to decent conditions are 12.8 - 13.6 @ 103 - 107 (depends alot on tranny and year since 01/02 were a tad faster). So even stock LS1's should be able to handle a 102 trap LT1 from a roll IF they didn't start in a A4 LS1's dead spot. I'm not on a "high horse". I just live in reality where modded LS1's don't get trains pulled on them from a roll by automatic LT1's that trap 102.

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There are guys on my local f-body board that have turned mid 13's@ 104 in stock LT1's.


Originally Posted by CamaroGuy22
The LS1 is a half second superior average times vs average times stock for stock, and basically mod for mod.But it is totally conceivable that a good running LT1 could take out a poor running LS1 in stock form, let alone a cammed, full exhaust, gears, tune LT1 vs a full ehaust LS1. Don't be so quick to pull out the BS flag because an LT1 beat an LS1.
He added mods since the race was first posted. If you edit your sig today it does reflect on the sigs of all previous posts. So again we are talking about a automatic LT1 with exhaust and stall only that traps 102 supposingly destroying bolt-on LS1's. I'm sorry but that's a flag any day of the week and twice on Test-N-Tune.

I never pull a BS flag out quickly. But this one was more then justified if you look at the mods and details of the story. So I say to you, Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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what's up guys, i cant beleive that this post is still alive. i hadnt been on here in a while so it comes as a surprise to see a few more pages added about my BS.

but before anyone goes out and kills me about this post, i just have to add that when i raced the guy i had all bolt ons. LT's, stall, gears, intake, TB, and the chip. and in no way do the times in my sig reflect my run in with that LS1, because it was done last year when i had just LT's and a stall. last time i went to the track with full bolt ons + tuning and street tires i ran 13.3@105 babying it off the line cause i was on my 18" ZO6 rims. my 60ft was 2.2 so i know i could have gone 13.1 at least if i hooked. BTW that guy that i "pulled a train on" had 2.73's and his car is a '98, i recently saw him and talked to him said he was stock but he was getting some LT's, and a stall. real cool guy, but still that doesnt change the fact that everyone throws up the BS flag at me. come on guys just let it go, if it makes you guys feel better i ran a stock 86 stang w/ 150 shot of juice and "pulled a train on him" just messing around but next week i might race him at the track, so i'll let you guys know what happens. gonna get video and time slips so no one posts BS
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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Re: my bolt-on LT1 vs two LS1's------>

Originally Posted by street demon2k3
what's up guys, i cant beleive that this post is still alive. i hadnt been on here in a while so it comes as a surprise to see a few more pages added about my BS.

but before anyone goes out and kills me about this post, i just have to add that when i raced the guy i had all bolt ons. LT's, stall, gears, intake, TB, and the chip. and in no way do the times in my sig reflect my run in with that LS1, because it was done last year when i had just LT's and a stall. last time i went to the track with full bolt ons + tuning and street tires i ran 13.3@105 babying it off the line cause i was on my 18" ZO6 rims. my 60ft was 2.2 so i know i could have gone 13.1 at least if i hooked. BTW that guy that i "pulled a train on" had 2.73's and his car is a '98, i recently saw him and talked to him said he was stock but he was getting some LT's, and a stall. real cool guy, but still that doesnt change the fact that everyone throws up the BS flag at me. come on guys just let it go, if it makes you guys feel better i ran a stock 86 stang w/ 150 shot of juice and "pulled a train on him" just messing around but next week i might race him at the track, so i'll let you guys know what happens. gonna get video and time slips so no one posts BS

Old Sep 7, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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Re: my bolt-on LT1 vs two LS1's------>

Originally Posted by darrens99formul
All that means is you should get to the track a little more. But this wasn't about your track times. I still bet his time was a best run produced after a number of runs and a few different days/nights.




I don't think he had the cam when these races occured. This story was resurrected from the dead and I'm pretty sure at that time all he had was exhaust and stall. So his 102 trap was right (for those mods) and his story was unbelievable (again for those mods).



Then it either sucks to be your friend or your just making that number up to try and justify your argument. LS1's under moderate to decent conditions are 12.8 - 13.6 @ 103 - 107 (depends alot on tranny and year since 01/02 were a tad faster). So even stock LS1's should be able to handle a 102 trap LT1 from a roll IF they didn't start in a A4 LS1's dead spot. I'm not on a "high horse". I just live in reality where modded LS1's don't get trains pulled on them from a roll by automatic LT1's that trap 102.







He added mods since the race was first posted. If you edit your sig today it does reflect on the sigs of all previous posts. So again we are talking about a automatic LT1 with exhaust and stall only that traps 102 supposingly destroying bolt-on LS1's. I'm sorry but that's a flag any day of the week and twice on Test-N-Tune.

I never pull a BS flag out quickly. But this one was more then justified if you look at the mods and details of the story. So I say to you, Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Just an FYI there is a guy that lives 5 miles from me that has a gears, stall, full exhaust LT1 with other minor bolt ons running on drag radials running 12.55 @ 108.11 w/ 1.665 60' in HORRIBLE DA....those basically the same mods that street demon2k3 had when he raced the LS1. Finally...a 102 trap for his mods IS NOT RIGHT Full exhaust etc does not net you a 102 trap in an LT1. First time at the track i trapped 101 in a heavy pig *** convertible with a catback and cold air. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that your numbers are wrong.

I did not make any of that up to make my arguement. I do not need to make things up to prove a point against an ignorant LS1 owner. If you don't belive me go to www.easternfbody.com and find out for yourself. (Just about everybody there drives an LS1 but had an LT1 before that) The information is there...that way you have some knowledge behind your BS flags...(what an idea that would be)... I don't need to waste anymore time with you.
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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Re: my bolt-on LT1 vs two LS1's------>

Originally Posted by CamaroGuy22
Just an FYI there is a guy that lives 5 miles from me that has a gears, stall, full exhaust LT1 with other minor bolt ons running on drag radials running 12.55 @ 108.11 w/ 1.665 60' in HORRIBLE DA....those basically the same mods that street demon2k3 had when he raced the LS1. Finally...a 102 trap for his mods IS NOT RIGHT Full exhaust etc does not net you a 102 trap in an LT1. First time at the track i trapped 101 in a heavy pig *** convertible with a catback and cold air. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that your numbers are wrong.

I did not make any of that up to make my arguement. I do not need to make things up to prove a point against an ignorant LS1 owner. If you don't belive me go to www.easternfbody.com and find out for yourself. (Just about everybody there drives an LS1 but had an LT1 before that) The information is there...that way you have some knowledge behind your BS flags...(what an idea that would be)... I don't need to waste anymore time with you.

Who meeeeeeeee?????
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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Re: my bolt-on LT1 vs two LS1's------>

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Who meeeeeeeee?????

Nooo couldnt be???
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Nooo couldnt be???
Then who?
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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Then who?
Guess you didnt pick up on the sarcasm
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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Guess you didnt pick up on the sarcasm
NO I did. I was simply making a stupied joke. Remember the children rhyme "Who me" " Couldn't be" "Then who?" "You". Nevermind, as it sails over your head.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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NO I did. I was simply making a stupied joke. Remember the children rhyme "Who me" " Couldn't be" "Then who?" "You". Nevermind, as it sails over your head.
Was never too much into rhymes. Didnt have the attention span
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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Re: my bolt-on LT1 vs two LS1's------>

Originally Posted by CamaroGuy22
Just an FYI there is a guy that lives 5 miles from me that has a gears, stall, full exhaust LT1 with other minor bolt ons running on drag radials running 12.55 @ 108.11 w/ 1.665 60' in HORRIBLE DA....those basically the same mods that street demon2k3 had when he raced the LS1. Finally...a 102 trap for his mods IS NOT RIGHT Full exhaust etc does not net you a 102 trap in an LT1. First time at the track i trapped 101 in a heavy pig *** convertible with a catback and cold air. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that your numbers are wrong.

I did not make any of that up to make my arguement. I do not need to make things up to prove a point against an ignorant LS1 owner. If you don't belive me go to www.easternfbody.com and find out for yourself. (Just about everybody there drives an LS1 but had an LT1 before that) The information is there...that way you have some knowledge behind your BS flags...(what an idea that would be)... I don't need to waste anymore time with you.
12.5 @ 108 with just LT headers, catback and 3000 stall (stall actually adds no HP) is the biggest BS I have ever heard. And that's saying alot.

Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by darrens99formul
12.5 @ 108 with just LT headers, catback and 3000 stall (stall actually adds no HP) is the biggest BS I have ever heard. And that's saying alot.


You are an idiot. Plain and simple. You and your bs flags ...the guy who i was referring to POSTED ABOVE. I gave you the link. He has the timeslip, a ton of people have seen it. Thats right only the LS1 can get into the 12's bolton I forgot
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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In all fairness, I have a few more things done then just headers, stall and catback. But all my mods are in the link in my sig.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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In all fairness, I have a few more things done then just headers, stall and catback. But all my mods are in the link in my sig.

I previously posted you had other bolt ons, he is the one who singled it out to stall longtubes and catback for some reason.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CamaroGuy22
You are an idiot. Plain and simple. You and your bs flags ...the guy who i was referring to POSTED ABOVE. I gave you the link. He has the timeslip, a ton of people have seen it. Thats right only the LS1 can get into the 12's bolton I forgot
Denile is not just a river in Egypt

LT1's will full bolt-ons can and have hit 12's. But LS1's with full bolt-ons have hit 11's

My argument was a guy who has very minimal mods in a LT1 A4, traps 102 and was running low 13 ET is not pulling busses on LS1's that were modded and easily running 106-109 traps. And no I do not buy his BS that the 98 was now stock and he had more mods and ran faster then his sig indicated. I think he saw how rediculous his story really looked and was trying to cover his tracks.

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