I prefer LT1's, so I'm probably a little biased. But I feel confident in saying that with a 102 trap, and going from a roll just about any LS1 should be able to work you over.......

 

Geese some of you LS1 guy's need to remove your head from your rectum. It's the street, you can make excuses if you want, but ANYTHING can happen on the street (or the track for that matter). I know How strong LS1's are too, my step mom has a vette and my dad used to have a Z06.

 

well im surprised to see so many people replying to this post. nothing like stirring up trouble

anyway, the guy with the ram air that i raced last sunday. it so happened that i saw him again at the track on friday night so i figured i should put this to an end. before that i raced a 98 z28 w/ stall, suspension, lid, exhaust and times were as follows:

me--------------------z28

60 ft-2.2---------------1.9
1/8--8.8@82mph------8.5@81mph
1/4--13.6@101--------13.4@102

1st run i spun out of the hole and let off some

a few runs later

me------------------trans am

60ft--2.0--------------2.1
1/8--8.5@83---------8.89@81
1/4--13.3@105------13.8@102

these runs were done on street tires, and both of us were on Z06 rims. just like last sunday, so there were no excuses this time. the guys trans am is stock except for a drop in filter and a cutout. before anyone starts up again that an LT1 cant beat an LS1, just accept it and move on. and no im not an ignorant fool who thinks my LT1 is faster than an LS1, i know i can get beat by a modded LS1. there was a 01 WS6 running 12.7 with just LT's and gears so i just ran into a poorly maintained LS1. everyone who thinks otherwise just keep posting up cuz im not going to worry about any people who think any LS1's cant be taken down by a bolt on LT1.

 

LT1s deserve so much more than they have. Everyone thinks of them as old, crappy mid-90s technology, but they've always been able to hang, they're just rediculously detuned.

 

I hate the bs flags always being thrown out. anything can happen and often does happen on the street, why can't people just realize that. maybe he ran into pisspoor drivers, i know it aint hard to find them around here.

 

From the mods in his sig, i'd say he beat them fair and square. any stock LS1 won't fair to well against a dual exhaust and a 3000 stall. That stall makes his car at this point.

 

No one sees what all the elite LS1 guys do, and that is the LS1 cant be beat by any previous engine technology no matter the circumstances. I spanked one good, with fewer bolt ons than I have now, but all the elite LS1 spokesmen said it wasnt done, did I give a crap? Nope, cause I was there and saw it done.

-Dustin-

 

When traction ISNT an issue, how can a car with LESS power be faster. Sorry dudes, does not compute............

 

I wasnt aware that you had dyno sheets and track slips for both along with data logs showing that each car was running to optimal performance and that one was superior. Cool, can I see them?

-Dustin-

 

4-5 cars dude........c'mon get a clue

If everybody traps 102 than how can one win by 4-5 cars from a roll

comon sense einstein................

You all have ls1 envy, just admit it. save your pennies you could get one some day......................

 

You're all assuming that his 1/4 ET and Trap are the maximum capability of his car. I ran about 9 runs at one track. My trap went anywhere from 100 to 104.4 and ET from 14.5 to 13.6, so if I didnt run the last two runs which were 13.6's @ 104's then my car would only be a 14.0 @ 101 car like my highest before? With his mods I dont see any reason why he couldnt pull nicely on the LS1, perhaps 4-5 was more like 2-3 but either way I dont think its total BS. Maybe the LS1 shut down early and it seemed like 4-5 till he flashed his lights or something. Regardless neither traps or ET's show everything about a car's performance, especially from a roll.

-Dustin-

 

maybe someday.

driver still plays a part on a race from a roll so i stand by my previous post of pisspoor drivers

 

It has nothing to do with LS1 elitists...it has to do with a faster car losing to a slower car.

You LT1 guys would be saying the same stuff if a 96 mph trapping third gen driver made a post about 'pulling a train' and 'pulling 4-5 car lengths' on a stock LT1. Has NOTHING to do with you being an elitist LT1 driver...has to do with the fact that the LT1 is the faster car, and there was either a bad driver behind the wheel, the third gen got a pretty good jump or the LT1 was in poor running condition. That's all the LS1 guys are saying here.

Continue.

 

102 does not pull trains or multiple car lengths on 103-107. It's really just that simple WHEN your talking about both cars being autos and just needing to mash the gas from a rolling start.

The story is BS and so is the rest of this thread. Some of you LT1 fanbois need to take a reality break. If this was a heads/cam LT1 that traps 115+ and he said he walked a stock LS1 badly then no one would have questioned anything. You just say good kill and move on.

But when a car that has a 102 trap claims to DESTROY a automatic vehicle that should trap 104+ then something is very, very wrong with the story. Numbers don't lie. People do.

 

say it brudda