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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Mach 1 vs. 98 Z28

Well last night my friend Dan and I were cruising around Boise just having fun. Dan was driving because he's never had a car with much power and loves to romp on my camaro. Anyway's were cruising and we spot a newer yellow Mach GT mustang with a kid driving that looks all of 15, and his friend is following in an older ford fairlane or somethin. So we catch up to the fairlane and I ask the kid what he runs in the quarter and he says 13.2, and I gave him props on his car and told my friend to go up to the mustang. I look over and ask the kid if he want's to run and he automatically drops it into second (we were crusing at about 40 mph) and hits it. Needless to say my friend only went to third and we lost the first round. We catch back up and I tell my friend to drop it into second. The mustang followed suit and he and my friend hit it at the same time (again around 40). This time we jump about half a car length ahead and keep pullin him till about 70 when we had to slow because of traffic. If we had more room we probably would have kept pullin him pretty bad. I gave him a thumbs up and we went on our way. This was the first race for my camaro against a newer mustang (even though I wasn't driving) and I was happy with the results. Also, does anyone know what the newer Mach's run in the quarter? I also have a race set up for this weekend at firebird raceway against a 2005 SRT-4 with stage one setup (otherwise stock) and I was wondering if I have anything to worry about. The guy has never raced before and I don't know if he can drive his car well. He just got it about 3 weeks ago. I think I can take him pretty easy.
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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Re: Mach 1 vs. 98 Z28

they run about exactly what a na cobra runs, i want to say high to mid 13
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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they run about exactly what a na cobra runs, i want to say high to mid 13
I agree. Although if you talk to some mach 1 owners, some claim to be low 13's. I haven't personally seen that yet though. Mostly mid to upper 13's is what I've seen at the track.
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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they are high to mid yes everyone says they car is SOOO FASTT!!!! haha makes me laugh...anyways if you think about it a 03-newer 390 hp cobra run low 13-12.7 or so...so i believe a mach1 runnin low 13 stock is
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Mach 1's (manual) generally run right around the same as LS1's(manual) stock vs stock but trap a few tenths lower...btw whats a Mach GT ...a Gt in that year has a 2v motor and a Mach 1 is a 4v motor similar to the pre 03 cobra motors...btw you should have no problems w/ the stage 1 srt...you should yank him pretty good up top..be best if you run from a dig...hes probably running in the 13.7ish rang and you should be good for lower 13's

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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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Re: Mach 1 vs. 98 Z28

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they run about exactly what a na cobra runs, i want to say high to mid 13
The mach 1 heads and cam design is better down low the the 01 cobra and they seem to trap a tenth or two more...Mach puts down more power and definately run faster then pre 03 cobras...W/ a good driver its more like a mid to lower 13 second car
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Re: Mach 1 vs. 98 Z28

Mach 1's do not trap the same as 6 speed ls1's........sorry. The are a good race for a 98-00 A4.
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Re: Mach 1 vs. 98 Z28

Originally Posted by JP2005
they are high to mid yes everyone says they car is SOOO FASTT!!!! haha makes me laugh...anyways if you think about it a 03-newer 390 hp cobra run low 13-12.7 or so...so i believe a mach1 runnin low 13 stock is

You must not get out much huh?
Put anyone who can really drive a car to its potential behind the wheel and its easily capable of 13.3s stock.
Ive done it time and time again.
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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Re: Mach 1 vs. 98 Z28

once again i am not alone in my thinking here is a link where they claim them to be 14 sec flat http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/03fordmach1.html and that is a complete unbiased site...and i do get out alot, but how do you figure a 305 hp car that weighs damn near 3500 lb runs a low 13?
Old Jul 24, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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If you did get out alot and frequent the tracks then you would not be posting links to specification sites about the performance of cars.
Ive been racing for well over 16 years now, competitively and TnTing and know what these vehicles can do (Ford & GM). Its just fine and dandy that you refuse to believe it, thats your right. Ask some of the old time members around here if my claims are legit or not. See I took a bone stock 01 GT a few years back and run a 13.89 @ 100 mph and a 13.93 @ 101. I have yet to see a run higher that 13.54 in the mach as I bogged it a little off the line. Out of 36 passes so far Its been a really good consistant 5 speed car.

As Ripley says....

"Believe it or not"

Thats your choice.



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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Re: Mach 1 vs. 98 Z28

Also If you want to post links....here is one for you.
Please be sure to read all the way down to the track testing.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...ust/index.html


Old Jul 24, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Re: Mach 1 vs. 98 Z28

nice kill...

when i was @ the track about 3 weeks ago i saw 2 gt stangs (the new 3 valve ones with a ton of "speed channel, and autoweek" stickers and such on them), and they were running mid 14's @ mid to high 90mph, i want to say they were automatic cars as i didn't see or hear them shifting...
Old Jul 24, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Re: Mach 1 vs. 98 Z28

Originally Posted by Mikie
Also If you want to post links....here is one for you.
Please be sure to read all the way down to the track testing.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...ust/index.html


That was a pretty cool article. I like the fact that they compared all three. I've seen new stock cobras pulling high 12's and low 13's at the track. I've also seen the occasional gt pull a low 14. But I haven't seen a mach pull a 13.1 stock ever. I'm not saying that it's not possible, but I've been to the track alot and they just are not running those times.
Old Jul 24, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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ok i pick a complete unbiased site and you pick mm&ff; youre right their not biased towards mustangs ...maybe a road and track or something that gives it those times ...im really not trying to argue...

also, i have read that article; when i was deciding to buy another car or a bike and that is also w/ the drag option, as i recall; you may be able to pull a low 13 in yours, once again it IS NOT 100% stock; any mach 1 i see that is stock i TEAR up, and w/ street tires at a track i pull a 12.76

im not saying its impossible i just dont see it happen
Old Jul 24, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Re: Mach 1 vs. 98 Z28

Originally Posted by JP2005
ok i pick a complete unbiased site and you pick mm&ff; youre right their not biased towards mustangs ...maybe a road and track or something that gives it those times ...im really not trying to argue...

also, i have read that article; when i was deciding to buy another car or a bike and that is also w/ the drag option, as i recall; you may be able to pull a low 13 in yours, once again it IS NOT 100% stock; any mach 1 i see that is stock i TEAR up, and w/ street tires at a track i pull a 12.76

im not saying its impossible i just dont see it happen

If anyone here is unbiased here it is Mike, you might actually be able to learn something from him. The Mach I engine and the 99-01 Cobra engines are not the same (The Marauder also gets it), they are totally different (different blocks, heads, cams etc), and they put down different torque numbers to the wheels. HP is in the 275 range and torque around 300 lb/ft at the wheels where as the 99-01 only makes about 275 lb/ft to the wheels. A 5 spd Mach I will easily trap 105-106 in the 1/4 when it's not stinking *** hot outside.


*Edit* By the way, MM&FF are the ones that have gotten the fastest published times for the F-body, Evan Smith ran 2 of them with the famous 12.89 (a 98) and then the newer one that was faster.

Here is an unbiased link listing the '03 Mach I at 13.13 at 105.51 when tested:

http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/fast.htm

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