Well... I've beaten two of em'... one was crappy though, but still he had full exhaust and intake rebuilt heads and ignition.(He beat that sh@t up though.

 

Hey man, I'm just staing what a cars capable of. Reaching that potential is up to the driver.

As for a gt, 150lbs is not going to make a huge difference. They are definatley still mid 14's capable.

I never said it didnt happen, so calm down. Should you have beat him...no. I should beat many of the cars that I have, as do quite a few people. But just because you beat one, it doesnt mean they are all slower than you stock.

 

And guess what dude, .... I have some land in Idaho I swear it's good and has no land mines.

 

Well dude what this says makes no sense so I can't even comment on that.
http://car-stats.com/stats/showstats...tsgivenid.aspx

http://evo.qksrv.net/amp/imp/if?publ...template=10167

I think a full second off of 0-60 and a second off of the 1/4 is more than a little. Maybe that is just me though.

 

I don't want to read magazine quotes nor does anyone else here to be honest. I want to see "real time" at the track 3.8 go at it with a 4.6 GT stock for stock. Then come back and show me the video. I've never had any problems with any 3.8, period unless of course it's a Grand National 3.8 that might be a different story.

 

Oh and millhouse read the posts before you comment I said the 3.8 has cai, 3.42's, high flow cat, cat-back so he isn't stock.

 

Those magazine quotes are from real track times it is just hard to admit a v6 chevy could take a v8 ford huh.

 

Yes it's very hard for me to admit ... I'm humbled honestly. Thank you for the intelligent conversation and teaching me a thing or two

 

Oh and I live too far away from a track to do that or I would.

 

No man it isn't like I am trying to show you up I was just saying my experiences. Just like you it is hard for me to believe a 5.0 gt is in the 14's stock because I haven't seen it. The 5.0's my friend has raced didn't seem like 14 second cars because of the margin he won by. So that is why I say what I say. Or my buddy's 3.8 is if they are mid 14 second cars.

 

< yawn >... another magazine racer. You're boring me. Get your car to the track, then, come back and talk to me/us here in this forum. Your quoting of magazine articles does not impress me nor anyone else here in the forums the least bit. It's real life drag racing that I'm interested in. Once you've made a real pass at a real track with a real timeslip, then, and only then, come back and talk to me.

 

I'm not trying to show you up either. What I'm saying is this. You're quoting bs stuff to me and all the others in this forum and we don't care about those #'s. I can't put it to you any other way.

 

I am talking about races on the street. You don't drive on the strip so strip times don't mean $hit to me. It is what your car is capable of on a day to day basis, unless it lives in a trailer.

 

Which is why I mentioned stock for stock. Now if your friend runs mid 14's at 97-98mph, he would be a good match for a well driven, well maintained 5 speed 87-93 gt.

I guess it's hard to admit too that you didnt actually investigate that sight very well, did you. If you did, you would have came across this----> http://car-stats.com/stats/tools/faq.aspx

I didnt even bother looking for the data, as there is so many damn popups on that sight it's rediculious.

 

Unless your running slicks and removing weight, the track is the best way to judge what your car is capable of on a day to day basis. There are way to many inconsistancies on the streets to accuratley judge what a car is capable of it's rediclious.