ok here's my opinion whether it's worth anything to ya'll or not. I'm 19 and have had around 12 tickets since i've been driving, and i've prob deserved everyone of them. Yes speed traps suck but speeding is against the law punishable by fines. it sucks but if you're bad a$$ enough to speed you should be bad enough to pay the fine for it.
furthermore if you read the posts by the law enforcement members of this site and then the posts by the jacka$$'s argueing with them you will figure out who the real men are.

ps.
not to mention any names but there are some real idiots on this board (filbielansk+MauriSSio= low life idiots)

pss. filbielansk so you are saying you've never generalized the word retard, you are a real class act(jacka$$)

if you two idiots were half the men that most cops are,you might be decient citizens

 

I'm not a cop but know several. For anyone to say that almost all cops are dicks is such a shallow and ignorant observation. When cops pull you over for a traffic violation, they are supposed to act somewhat on the curt side but in a professional manner in an effort to try to get people to not break the law again, sort of like an intimidation thing. Sure there are a few cops who are power hungry and could care less how they act toward citizens, but most are (believe it or not) decent people who have to put up with alot of crap on the job, AND the ones I know loathe the ticket writing that comes with some of the frivulous speeding tickets issued because of dimbulb speed limits. So maybe the officer who stops you might be a little curt probably because he's had to write 10 tickets prior to you. However, if one of the ones who give cops a bad name (based on accurate observation and experiences) would stop me for going 15 over on a deserted highway in good conditions and tries to give me a bunch of crap that's not needed, then yes, I will say a couple smart comments back. If they're gonna be like that and overreact to small stuff like that, then they shouldn't have the badge.

But please understand that most of the cops out there serving are good, decent people. Shoot, a good portion of them (one I know has a 69 Nova with a buit 454, 4spd)around my area are car nuts like me and the rest of us on this board.

Jason

 

You were right your opinion does not count. The idiot here is you you admitted to having 12 tickets in three years. Yeah you're a real man who constantly breaks the law. Whats the matter didn't finish highschool and can't read traffic signs. I have 4 tickets in my whole 13 years of driving. And half of those are parking tickets. And no I never generalized the word retard. I use to volunteer for these people and I know what a struggle it is for them and their families. You have no clue about anything so zip up your pie hole.

 

I was hoping i would get a response like that out of filbielansk. just helps prove everyone's point of how much of an idiot you are, and if it matters i graduated highschool in the top few of my class of 500, and i'm now majoring in veterinary medicine. So obviously i can read. what kind of math skills do you have 19-15 is four(how many years i've been driving). what do you do for a living if you're so smart. It sounds like you have some other issues you need to deal with, maybe your car's slow or maybe you just suck as a person. The same cop that you dog everyday maybe the one that saves your dumb life one day.

oh yeah, you say you've been driving for 13 years, so you are about 30. why are you acting like an immature child?

 

That second scenario made me cringe, i could imagine that happening to me...i would be pissed. It just goes to show you there are bad apples out there.

 

 

OK, back to the topic at hand, LT1 B-body vs LT1 Fbody.

In my B-body club we have several stock or CAI/exhaust cars only 9C1's that run mid 14's. I also have friends in the local Fbody club (which I'm also in) that run mid to high 14's in their LT1 Fbodies.

This is in Phoenix which is considered a high elevation track.

With my car with stock motor & bolt on's I've beaten most LT1 Fbodies I've ran. If I wasn't winning initially the 175 shot usually took care of the rest. With my bolt on car with nitrous I was running 12.35@110 without nitrous 13.9@101.

Of course with the 396 I run 12.9's on motor, still working out the bugs for a full 250 shot pass...



Mike

 

 

Stock B-body vs. stock F-body and the F-body guys are losing or tying? Boy those F-body guys need to learn how to drive.


What is the elevation there?

 

1220 Altitude but the DA averages around 3500 to 4500 ft here due to weather conditions.

Comparing my 1/4 mile times NA here to guys in NJ and FL just doesn't work due to their usual 200 to -800 DA.



I could probably get a list of 10 guys to come on here from AZFBA with their LT1 Fbodies that ran mid 14's stock.

MIke

 

I'm glad we got back to the subject. I've never driven one so i don't really no how fast they are, but those things are whales. Not to rag on caprices but I would be pretty imbaressed if i was beat by one.

Oh thanks for the props steve.

Derrick

 

I completely understand! I race at 4000 feet elevation. I've seen the d. a. as high as 7000+ feet here before. That really hurts times and trap speeds.

 

No problem. Just giving credit where it is due.

 

There's plenty out there that will, including mine....



Mike

 

OK, so far NO ONE in AZ has seen an LT1 Fbody go 13's stock or intake/exhaust...



I have personally seen a STOCK 9C1 Caprice go 14.7@97 so we can pull win out on an Fbody occassionally.

Especially sine we can get traction out of the hole, most Caprice's will get a mid 1.9 60' stock here in Phoenix. Most Fbodies I know of run 2.1's or higher.



Mike