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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

Originally Posted by Steve Y
I'm sure it's really easy to do a burnout in a stock 5-speed GT. What are you talking about?
Ford put the same logic in the new Mustang that they did in their trucks. The ECM won't allow the car to do a burnout, it'll back down the throttle. It also backs down the throttle during WOT shifts to help protect the motor. Trying to powershift with the body mounted shifter should be interesting as well.

http://www.hotrod.com/projectbuild/1...st/index1.html

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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

Originally Posted by FastrDamnit!
Since your an auto you'll either have 2.73s or 3.23s, the 3.42s only came with manual cars.

Easiest way to tell is to check your option sticker, you will either have a GU5 which is 3.23 or a GU2 is 2.73. Another way to check since you're an LT1 car is if your auto tranny shifter starts with a 1st gear or 2nd gear selection. If you DO NOT have a "1" on your shifter then you have the 2.73s.
Thanks
THen I have 3.23's since my shifter goes P N R (D) D 2 1
Old Feb 27, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

Originally Posted by 97WS6SCharged
Ford put the same logic in the new Mustang that they did in their trucks. The ECM won't allow the car to do a burnout, it'll back down the throttle.

Even with the traction control turned off?
Old Feb 27, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

Originally Posted by BoobSter-lt1-z
Thanks
THen I have 3.23's since my shifter goes P N R (D) D 2 1
You are one of the lucky ones with good gears!
Old Mar 8, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

Race him Im wanna know if u beat him becuz then my manual should be close with a good driver
Old Mar 8, 2005 | 02:04 AM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

I think You should be able to beat hime since hes barely learning to drive because chances are hes probably not going to be able to launch it that well. Since your an auto you should be to just get up of the line and go without having to worry about driver error. So race him now before he learns to drive the thing.
Old Mar 8, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

I think you'll win. Here's why:

'05 GTs are heavier, plus you have a '96. The '96-'97 F-Bodies went with the dual cat exhaust which freed up about 10 more ponies at the crank (285HP). And, you are slightly modded with the filter and the exhaust, I think you'll take him pretty easily if you can drive.
Old Mar 9, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

Originally Posted by Black96WS6
I think you'll win. Here's why:

'05 GTs are heavier, plus you have a '96. The '96-'97 F-Bodies went with the dual cat exhaust which freed up about 10 more ponies at the crank (285HP). And, you are slightly modded with the filter and the exhaust, I think you'll take him pretty easily if you can drive.
New GTs are very similar weight to fbodys, 96-97 LT1s were no faster then 93-95's(that 10 hp was only on paper)....New Gts w/ a simple reflash can run deep in the lower 13's...highly unlikely an auto LT1 w/ a catback and a filter will beat it.
Old Mar 9, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

Originally Posted by Antz97ZNJ
New GTs are very similar weight to fbodys, 96-97 LT1s were no faster then 93-95's(that 10 hp was only on paper)....New Gts w/ a simple reflash can run deep in the lower 13's...highly unlikely an auto LT1 w/ a catback and a filter will beat it.
'93-95 cars had OBDI and single cat setup. '96-97 had dual cats and OBDII. In 1996, they added low-resistance ignition wires which were designed to improve idle quality and cold-start performance.

In addition, a redesigned ignition coil had half of the primary inductance as the '93-95 coil, allowing the primary current to "pour in" much quicker for much improved output at higher RPMs.

Revised pistons used a new positive-twist top ring that improved the piston-to-cylinder seal and reduced blow-by emissions at high speeds. However, the pushrods were no longer hardened as they were in previous years.

The exhaust manifolds got tri-layered stainless steel gaskets for improved durability and reduced leaks.

Or did you not want a lesson on the differences in LT1 years? I also should have specified I meant heavier than the previous generation GT.

REGARDLESS, we're not talking about a new GT with a reflash, we're talking about a new BONE STOCK GT vs a slightly modded LT1, right? Plus, the GT driver is just learning how to drive a stick?

Going by the original post in this thread, LT1 all the way , especially from a stop since it's an A4. Full torque develops around ~2500rpm. Just don't spin

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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

Just so everyone is informed, this is what a PROFESSIONAL RACE CAR DRIVER can do on a NOT stock '05 GT (Weight reduction - removed back seat, A/C, spare tire and jack):

13.20 @104 - here's the link: http://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...=582833&page=1

Here's what the average driver does on a BONE STOCK MANUAL 2005 GT:

13.7-14.0 @99 - here's the link for proof from the Ford guys own mouths: http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=565909

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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

I beat one from a stop to about 70 and pulled about a half a car. He got a good launch though and I spunem, I caught up as soon as I got traction and passed him, but had to slow down at 70, by then I had a half a car.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

He is going to walk you. They are good running cars.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Re: Can my car beat a stock '05 GT?

Originally Posted by 97WS6SCharged
Ford put the same logic in the new Mustang that they did in their trucks. The ECM won't allow the car to do a burnout, it'll back down the throttle. It also backs down the throttle during WOT shifts to help protect the motor. Trying to powershift with the body mounted shifter should be interesting as well.

http://www.hotrod.com/projectbuild/1...st/index1.html

Try telling that to this guy. http://www.allfordmustangs.com/images/2005Mustang.wmv
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