camaro versus mustang
having owned 2 2001 GT's and 2 Z28's(94&95) I would say the camaro is slightly faster, trannys being the same.With mods,I think the Z can be put into the 13's for very little money where the GT would require much more mods.That being said, the GT is a very cool car to have and makes up for being slightly slower in other ways that make it fun to own.My '95 Z28 had a K&N FIPK,throttle body air foil and shift re-calb kit and would run high 13's.My 01 GT had a FIPK and would do mid 14's.
i've been browsing the mustang boards about like i do this one (being an ex-stanger man myself) and have had a large perspective on those cars. FWIW, after every bolt-on the M5 99+ GTs are lucky to hit 260rwhp... coming from about 225rwhp stock. From there they can install the expensive Bullit intake and get near 270rwhp or so. They need ported heads and larger cams just to get to 330rwhp. LT1s will generally hit about 290rwhp or so with bolt-ons and 380+ with ported heads and a larger cam. And the LT1 will always have a much broader torque curve. I have a bunch of dyno graphs of various setups for both the mustangs and the LT1s, LS1s, and L98s. The differences are more than apparent, they're obvious.
For it's displacement, the 4.6 actually has larger cams compared to the LT1(both stock). If you look at the torque curves you'll see that the GT's is very peaky and is weaker down low (which is what larger cams will do to and engine's powerband). The LT1's torque curve is flat as a table from 2000 to 4500 where it starts to fall off. This indicates the LT1 has a milder cam for it's displacement and the GT's is more radical in stock form. That's why you see so many GT guys going for blowers or nitrous.... about the most they'll ever see with heads/cams is about 330-340rwhp NA, whereas we can hit upwards of 430rwhp with heads(AFRs)/cam and then put nitrous on top of that if necessary. All on stock bottom ends.
Stock for stock, they'll be side by side until about 80 or so. Then the LT1 will start pulling. After you do all the bolt-ons to both.... suspension, good tires, and good driver, the LT1 will be well ahead in every aspect. The 2V engines just don't respond too well to bolt-ons. But they do handle blowers quite well in stock form. But then again, LT1s like a good 100-150 shot of juice too.
Now those dang 4V modulars is another story... especially the guys who port those 4V heads and put them onto the 5.4L blocks. Ive heard the factory 5.4L can go to 440CID before running out of room. 4V heads on top of that is one deadly combination.... both NA and FI. It's almost like Araos on top of a stroked LT1.
But nonetheless... those mustangs sound damn good. My GF is talking about getting one and it wouldn't bother me one bit if she did. I'd put a set of flowmasters and an H-pipe on it the day she got it.
For it's displacement, the 4.6 actually has larger cams compared to the LT1(both stock). If you look at the torque curves you'll see that the GT's is very peaky and is weaker down low (which is what larger cams will do to and engine's powerband). The LT1's torque curve is flat as a table from 2000 to 4500 where it starts to fall off. This indicates the LT1 has a milder cam for it's displacement and the GT's is more radical in stock form. That's why you see so many GT guys going for blowers or nitrous.... about the most they'll ever see with heads/cams is about 330-340rwhp NA, whereas we can hit upwards of 430rwhp with heads(AFRs)/cam and then put nitrous on top of that if necessary. All on stock bottom ends.
Stock for stock, they'll be side by side until about 80 or so. Then the LT1 will start pulling. After you do all the bolt-ons to both.... suspension, good tires, and good driver, the LT1 will be well ahead in every aspect. The 2V engines just don't respond too well to bolt-ons. But they do handle blowers quite well in stock form. But then again, LT1s like a good 100-150 shot of juice too.
Now those dang 4V modulars is another story... especially the guys who port those 4V heads and put them onto the 5.4L blocks. Ive heard the factory 5.4L can go to 440CID before running out of room. 4V heads on top of that is one deadly combination.... both NA and FI. It's almost like Araos on top of a stroked LT1.
But nonetheless... those mustangs sound damn good. My GF is talking about getting one and it wouldn't bother me one bit if she did. I'd put a set of flowmasters and an H-pipe on it the day she got it.
Definitely the dohc mustangs are a whole different ball game. Personally I think it would probably be the only type of mustang i would take- excluding the old ones from that of course. With some bolt-ons the sohcs can do 13s easily of course, but everyone i have seen has had to work too hard to get power out of them. That said, I hear the dohcs are a lot harder to drive though, so it looks like I'd be screwed whichever way I went (I drive an auto for a reason
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