Not quite, I've used my Talon to beat quite a few Mustangs and Camaros on and off the track. True a turbo only car with amateur mods will not take a LT1/LS1 but if you know what you're doing you can make a 4-banger sing.

This is a very good point, I spent almost $10000 on the Talon including the rebuild, modified intake, down pipes, turbo and various other goodies running no NOS and it is still a damn fast machine. Would it take a LS1/LT1, from a stop not likely but will sure give it a run for its money. From a roll? Unless you are racing on a long, straight road or a freeway you are most likely gonna get taken. Bring those curves or canyon roads and there is no way you will keep up

Take my word for it, I love my LT1 to death but when it comes to a turbo'd ricer I make sure to do my homework before laying down the smack talk

 

Only if the S2000 driver sucked. Or the driver forgot to rev the living **** out of the 4 little rodents. *wink One of the wine and cheese rags got a 13.8 at 100 out of one bone stock.

 

I hate how people say this (no offense). But HONESTLY.. you can make ANYTHING sing. What you can do to your 4 banger, can be done to an 8-cylander 100x better. What can be done to an 8-cylander, can be done to a 10-cylander only 100x better, and so on. Hell.. if I wanted to I could turn my my friends 1948 Case DC tractor whoop some ***. Any point in it? Nope.. none at all.
And I am pretty darned sure that an LS1 Camaro would out-handle the **** out of a talon (lol).
No offense to you on this post

 

Actually a V8 has about 2x the potential of a 4 banger if it has double the displacement. An LS1 and a Talon handle about the same.

 

I know it has 2x the potential steve, lol. I was just trying to get my point across. But I do NOT believe that talons handle as good as LS1's. I have NEVER heard of a talon, or any eagle for that matter, that handles good.

 

Anybody have a link to skidpad and slalom #s for the Talon and the LS1? I will look in my old mags and get back to you guys, but you will have to believe me because they will not be links.

 

Ok. I will be waiting

 

I'll look it up at work today and get back to you tonight or tomorrow morning.

 

Well.. anything?

 

I got it. This is all from Motor Trend magazine from the last 15 or so years. I have 5 Talons (some are the mechanically identical Lasers and Eclipses) and 5 LS1 F-bodys. All cars are stock. Talon skidpads: .83, .87, .85, .87, .87. Talon slaloms: 66.2, 66.6, 67.5, 69.2, 69.0. Average Talon skidpad and slalom, .858 and 67.7. LS1 skidpads: .83, .83, .85, .84. LS1 slaloms: 63.0, 65.9, 64.9, 64.6, 64.6. Average LS1 skidpad and slalom, .8375 and 64.6. Sorry the Talon outhandles the LS1 in both catagories. I'm not happy about it either. The reason is probably because of less curb weight.

 

Hm.. that is really surprising and really odd :/
But and LS1 skidpads less than a 1LE IROC, acheiving a .93?? How is taht one played out?

 

There has always been better handling cars than F-bodies. They are heavier than the better handling cars. It's just physics. F-bodies claim to fame is excellent straight line power, great braking, good handling, and a cheap entry price. I think the IROC gets a better skidpad but worse slalom than the LS1.

 

All right, i'll dig it up.

3rd gens: '88 IROC 350, .89g, 59.6mph, '90 IROC 350, .90, 64.2, '91 Formy 305, .87, 64.0, '88 GTA 350, .87, no speed given, '91 t/a vert 305, .92 65.1.

4th gens: '93 Z28, .86, 66.1, '94 Z28, .88, 68.3, '95 Z28, .84, 64.3, '93 Z28 .86, 66.1, '95 Z28, .88, 68.3, '96 Z28, .87, 65.7, '94 Z28 vert., .84, 62.6.

There are more, but you get the general idea. You can average them yourself if you want.

 

Here are some examples of great handling cars: '93 RX7, .97, 68.0, '92 3000GT VR4, .92, 70.5, '90 300ZX TT, .95, 71.9 , '95 Toyota MR2 T, .94, 69.2, '95 RX7, .98, 69.8, '94 Acura NSX, .95, 70.6, '91 Calloway TT Vette, .94, 71.3, '92 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C, 1.02 , 69.3.

 

*whistles* Wow.. those are some amazing numbers^
But why do 3rd gens pull more g's than 4th gens??
What is yours and everybody else's input on an '87 RX7 Turbo? I am going to race one this summer.. any suggestions?