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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

They dont go low 13's ???

I thought they, on average, run like high 13's with a 3.4 pulley, catback, and cai ...
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

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They dont go low 13's ???

I thought they, on average, run like high 13's with a 3.4 pulley, catback, and cai ...
Ya at best mid 13's, not low. Not w/ out slicks. fwd + 300ftlbs + stock tires =
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

And stock they are a upper to mid 14 second car I thought ?
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

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And stock they are a upper to mid 14 second car I thought ?
Yes, you are correct. Some people who can drive managed low 14s, but that is definitely not the norm.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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lol ok ...

On the other side of things though, I can say that they are a good bit faster with a pulley. My friend put a 3.4 on his and it felt significantly stronger. He sold the car though like a dork and got an Envoy.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

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Yes, you are correct. Some people who can drive managed low 14s, but that is definitely not the norm.
They are all a4's so driving prolly isnt that big of problem.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

Actually, launching them is pretty tricky. The boost hits pretty hard and it's really easy to overpower the tires.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

i have a 98 gtp..and at one point i had those mods he had... you'll be fine bro... just dont dick up the launch.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

Originally Posted by Jazsun
They are all a4's so driving prolly isnt that big of problem.
All of that torque on a FWD car can lead to wheelhop and bad sixty foot times pretty easily so it can still be tricky even with the A4.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

Originally Posted by WheelmanZ28
omfg are u kidding?

I think his most powerful mod on there gives him at most 1 horsepower.

stop doubting your car and go smoke his wanna-be ****.

u ppl worry too much about these ricer types that just have a bunch of flashy lights and gizmos on there car. Don't let those things distract you from the fact they are slow.
1 horse huh? You a moron? Oh and i also own a pontiac...is it a ricer too, cause last i heard pontiac was gm and made in the U.S. not japan, but whatever you know more than me.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

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1 horse huh? You a moron? Oh and i also own a pontiac...is it a ricer too, cause last i heard pontiac was gm and made in the U.S. not japan, but whatever you know more than me.
Maybe you should learn how to read tard. He is a ricer type for the mods not because of what he drives. There are Cavaliers out here with big wings, fart cans, and neons - I call that a ricer too.

Hmm, lets look at the mods again.

1998 GTP 4 Door A4
3.4" Magnuson Snout, Custom 4" to 9" - hmm ok, maybe 15 horsepower
K&N Cone, U-bend & Res Delete - ok, another maybe 2 horsepower?
Throttle Body Screen Removed - NOTHING
WBS Shift Kit - NOTHING
Autolite 104's @ .055" - NOTHING
Drilled 180* T-Stat - NOTHING
Coolant Bottle Relocated - NOTHING
Powertuned - very general, but wtf, lets give it 5 horsepwoer to be nice.

So this thing is a horsepower cranking full out race car huh? OBVIOUSLY the whole 1 horsepower things was a sarcastic joke, but apparently ur too much of an idiot to see that. It is quite ricerish to mention mods that do absolutely nothing. Hence how I have my shift **** in CAPs in my sig as a joke, but you probably didn't get that either. GG

Oh, and please make a more worthless sig that takes up more room on a page that people care even less about. That'll be super.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

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Maybe you should learn how to read tard. He is a ricer type for the mods not because of what he drives. There are Cavaliers out here with big wings, fart cans, and neons - I call that a ricer too.

Hmm, lets look at the mods again.

1998 GTP 4 Door A4
3.4" Magnuson Snout, Custom 4" to 9" - hmm ok, maybe 15 horsepower
K&N Cone, U-bend & Res Delete - ok, another maybe 2 horsepower?
Throttle Body Screen Removed - NOTHING
WBS Shift Kit - NOTHING
Autolite 104's @ .055" - NOTHING
Drilled 180* T-Stat - NOTHING
Coolant Bottle Relocated - NOTHING
Powertuned - very general, but wtf, lets give it 5 horsepwoer to be nice.

So this thing is a horsepower cranking full out race car huh? OBVIOUSLY the whole 1 horsepower things was a sarcastic joke, but apparently ur too much of an idiot to see that. It is quite ricerish to mention mods that do absolutely nothing. Hence how I have my shift **** in CAPs in my sig as a joke, but you probably didn't get that either. GG

Oh, and please make a more worthless sig that takes up more room on a page that people care even less about. That'll be super.
The coolant bottle was relocated most likely because of his intake. The T-stat,throttle body screen removal, and plugs are actually worthwhile and dyno proven mods because of his smaller supercharger pulley. The shift kit can be taken for what it is worth.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

Originally Posted by WheelmanZ28
Maybe you should learn how to read tard. He is a ricer type for the mods not because of what he drives. There are Cavaliers out here with big wings, fart cans, and neons - I call that a ricer too.

Hmm, lets look at the mods again.

1998 GTP 4 Door A4
3.4" Magnuson Snout, Custom 4" to 9" - hmm ok, maybe 15 horsepower
K&N Cone, U-bend & Res Delete - ok, another maybe 2 horsepower?
Throttle Body Screen Removed - NOTHING
WBS Shift Kit - NOTHING
Autolite 104's @ .055" - NOTHING
Drilled 180* T-Stat - NOTHING
Coolant Bottle Relocated - NOTHING
Powertuned - very general, but wtf, lets give it 5 horsepwoer to be nice.

So this thing is a horsepower cranking full out race car huh? OBVIOUSLY the whole 1 horsepower things was a sarcastic joke, but apparently ur too much of an idiot to see that. It is quite ricerish to mention mods that do absolutely nothing. Hence how I have my shift **** in CAPs in my sig as a joke, but you probably didn't get that either. GG

Oh, and please make a more worthless sig that takes up more room on a page that people care even less about. That'll be super.
Maybe you should do some investigation before you start spouting off what other cars mods are worth...

I can't speak to what each mod is worth because I haven't dynoed after each step. However, I have basically the same mods, actually less, and my car went from a 14.7 stock to a 13.6. Something tells me that adds up to a little more than the 22 that you give credit for (that's sarcasm too).
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

That pulley probably gives him around 20HP at the wheels. If not more than that.

The deleting the U-Bend thing ... Have you ever seen a GTP up on a rack? Its a major restriction in the ezxhaust. This makes a larger difference on FI motors than it does on a NA one. I would say he likely gained another 5 at the wheels at least from this.

The K&N can be argued, but there is no doubt, they certainly do flow well. I would bet he gained 2-3 here too.

The plugs are important on a FI motor. Very critical because the boost can actually put the spark out if the gap is too large. Killing power.

Drilling the thermostat isn't that rediculous. I bet you wouldnt laugh at someone with a 160* stat on their LT/LS motor ? Again, running cooler on a FI motor makes a significantly larger difference than it does on a NA one. It may sound rediculous, but he probably gained another 2-3 here. For free.

I'm betting that he is at at least 30-35 more than stock at the wheels. In a car that weighs, I think, around 3300ish lbs.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Re: 96 Formula vs. 98 GTP 4 door..What do ya think??

97ChameleanTA ~ Your times are incredible in your sig ... That your entire mod list? What was the elevation? 60'? Just curious ... PM me if you want



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