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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 01:02 AM
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Re: 95 Z28 Vs. 04 Cobra.... oh wow...

Originally Posted by Josh-'97 WS6


No one is ragging on Zeedub for being "knowledge-challenged". Its him yapping about his near-stock LT1 being...and I quote... "this car is FUH-KING FAST!!!! nuff said..." Wow.
So he's enthusiastic about his car, no need to hang him for it. Even stock LT-1 cars are faster than 90% of cars on the road. Not the fastest by any means, but it's still a high performance "sports car." He's just a rookie, and we all started that way. No one becomes an "expert" overnight.
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 01:55 AM
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rookie? i see what your saying, but im no rookie... i test drove another 95 Z28, with no mods but intake, exhaust, and Zr-1 wheels.... and that car was sluggish in my opinion... this one? actually threw me back in my seat, which is why i got it... ive driven lots of camaros, my style, and the LS1 style, and LS1s are quick, but this will give an 02 SS a run for its money... and its an LT1 with 275 BHP.... like i said, i know i still have a lot to work on, but with the mods i carry on this car, and the experience i have driving others, i can honestly say its a hell of a lot faster than most other Z28s of the 4th generation....stock/mildly modded ones anyways... im just saying guys, this car has its benifits... im not saying its fast because i own it.... i own it because i thought it was fast before i bought it.... and while i know in order to be REALLY fast... as in low 13s - high 12s... im gonna need a nice set of hi performance mods... such as cam, injectors, full exhaust, a stall converter, and maybe even a set of AFR heads... plus proper tuning, i think i could run in the mid - high 12s even at best... and thats all im shooting for, i dont care about 10 second ETs, or lifting my nose off the ground... i just want a streetable car that will turn heads and jam on just about anything i come in contact with on the street.... and if not? with a new motor, built for low compression, i could probably even slap on a nice 200HP nitrous shot rigged on a time release... like Zex or something.... for the race you just CANT afford to lose (and yes, i know it doesnt guarentee races, but at the same time, if a guy is a car length or 2 in front of you, im sure a nice 200 shot would put you in the lead....) and thats when i would park the car, and make it track use only... but by then i will have 2 or 3 cars, so i could afford to do that. Right now? i need to focus on getting it in 100% condition, then i will work on performance... then i will take it to a track...
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by scott9050
I have no problem with someone with limited automotive knowledge, but to brag about yourself and your "expert" knowledge and tell everyone that you know more than them (while saying some ridiculous things I might add) is setting yourself up to be called out, plain and simple. I still find it humerous that Bob's identity was questioned in another thread and at some of the other banter that has been used. If you do not know something, admit it. There is no shame in that.
When did i say i knew more than anyone else? Or that i knew more than any 1 person in this forum? or that my knowledge was even close to expert?!?!?!?!?

actually, i never said any of those things.... thanks for making up lies to prove a dull and un founded point

all i said was, im not as dumb as all you guys try to play me out to be... I NEVER EVEN SAID I WON THE RACE! I SAID I HUNG WITH HIM, THATS IT!!! I dont care WHY i did, or HOW i did, or how bad of a driver he is, or anything about that race other than for WHATEVER REASON... i wasnt too far behind him.... i think im gonna take my car to the track and make a run just so i can shut some of you fuccers up.... and if i run a 14.5? so be it... i never claimed to be in the 12s.... on the track is a whole other story than on the street... yeah, hes gonna get more grip on the track to "show me whose boss"...but....so am i.... so we both have the same advantages, but our times will change.... like i said, the GT i raced with all his mods was (according to him) runnin a 14.2... and i was gaining on him before we hit the turn, then we had to stop.... so im guessing i would run a 14.1 or maybe even a 14.2... or maybe a 13.9? who knows... i will soon now.... can someone close this thread? as it has obviously been once again tarnished and crapped on by trolls..... little varmint runnin around the board sh*ttin on other peoples posts to try and gain more credibility for themselves...... *Gag* just a bunch of happy-go-lucky, positive thinkers in here.... aint ya? (no offense to those who dont fit that discription)
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeeDub
rookie? i see what your saying, but im no rookie... i test drove another 95 Z28, with no mods but intake, exhaust, and Zr-1 wheels.... and that car was sluggish in my opinion... this one? actually threw me back in my seat, which is why i got it... ive driven lots of camaros, my style, and the LS1 style, and LS1s are quick, but this will give an 02 SS a run for its money... and its an LT1 with 275 BHP.... like i said, i know i still have a lot to work on, but with the mods i carry on this car, and the experience i have driving others, i can honestly say its a hell of a lot faster than most other Z28s of the 4th generation....stock/mildly modded ones anyways... im just saying guys, this car has its benifits... im not saying its fast because i own it.... i own it because i thought it was fast before i bought it.... and while i know in order to be REALLY fast... as in low 13s - high 12s... im gonna need a nice set of hi performance mods... such as cam, injectors, full exhaust, a stall converter, and maybe even a set of AFR heads... plus proper tuning, i think i could run in the mid - high 12s even at best... and thats all im shooting for, i dont care about 10 second ETs, or lifting my nose off the ground... i just want a streetable car that will turn heads and jam on just about anything i come in contact with on the street.... and if not? with a new motor, built for low compression, i could probably even slap on a nice 200HP nitrous shot rigged on a time release... like Zex or something.... for the race you just CANT afford to lose (and yes, i know it doesnt guarentee races, but at the same time, if a guy is a car length or 2 in front of you, im sure a nice 200 shot would put you in the lead....) and thats when i would park the car, and make it track use only... but by then i will have 2 or 3 cars, so i could afford to do that. Right now? i need to focus on getting it in 100% condition, then i will work on performance... then i will take it to a track...
Originally Posted by ZeeDub
When did i say i knew more than anyone else? Or that i knew more than any 1 person in this forum? or that my knowledge was even close to expert?!?!?!?!?

actually, i never said any of those things.... thanks for making up lies to prove a dull and un founded point

all i said was, im not as dumb as all you guys try to play me out to be... I NEVER EVEN SAID I WON THE RACE! I SAID I HUNG WITH HIM, THATS IT!!! I dont care WHY i did, or HOW i did, or how bad of a driver he is, or anything about that race other than for WHATEVER REASON... i wasnt too far behind him.... i think im gonna take my car to the track and make a run just so i can shut some of you fuccers up.... and if i run a 14.5? so be it... i never claimed to be in the 12s.... on the track is a whole other story than on the street... yeah, hes gonna get more grip on the track to "show me whose boss"...but....so am i.... so we both have the same advantages, but our times will change.... like i said, the GT i raced with all his mods was (according to him) runnin a 14.2... and i was gaining on him before we hit the turn, then we had to stop.... so im guessing i would run a 14.1 or maybe even a 14.2... or maybe a 13.9? who knows... i will soon now.... can someone close this thread? as it has obviously been once again tarnished and crapped on by trolls..... little varmint runnin around the board sh*ttin on other peoples posts to try and gain more credibility for themselves...... *Gag* just a bunch of happy-go-lucky, positive thinkers in here.... aint ya? (no offense to those who dont fit that discription)
Alright, there's goofy's free pass - even though there's enough fodder in that.....mess.....he typed to keep me entertained for at least 15 minutes.

Next one is free game though.
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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This post was loaded with threats so it has been deleted.

ZeeDub, if you can't learn to rib the other guy respectfully then I'll just start deleting all your replies.

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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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Re: 95 Z28 Vs. 04 Cobra.... oh wow...

Originally Posted by BirchMan98z
So he's enthusiastic about his car, no need to hang him for it. Even stock LT-1 cars are faster than 90% of cars on the road. Not the fastest by any means, but it's still a high performance "sports car." He's just a rookie, and we all started that way. No one becomes an "expert" overnight.
Birchman....that's pretty good advice, and is easily forgotten in the heat of selfish fun. We certainly were all rookies or novices or whatever at one time. In many (most?) ways, all of us still are. I admit to getting rather carried away sometimes in the "heat of the fun".

I shall endeavor to be more factual and less sarcastic.
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by filbielansk
Bob Cosby you're just a PITA. You should add another o in your first name.
Oh bummer - I've got another detractor. Sucks to be me I guess.
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeDub
ive driven lots of camaros, my style, and the LS1 style, and LS1s are quick, but this will give an 02 SS a run for its money... and its an LT1 with 275 BHP.... like i said, i know i still have a lot to work on, but with the mods i carry on this car, and the experience i have driving others, i can honestly say its a hell of a lot faster than most other Z28s of the 4th generation....stock/mildly modded ones anyways...
Okay, here is where you lost me. You say that your car will give an 02 SS a run for its money, but then you go on to say:

Originally Posted by ZeeDub
and while i know in order to be REALLY fast... as in low 13s - high 12s... im gonna need a nice set of hi performance mods... such as cam, injectors, full exhaust, a stall converter, and maybe even a set of AFR heads... plus proper tuning, i think i could run in the mid - high 12s even at best...
So, after all of those mods, your car that, in present condition, will "give an 02 SS a run for its money," is finally going to be running similar times (low 13's) as a stock 02 SS?

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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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Maybe he meant to say a "poorly driven" SS.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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Yeah Bob Cosby you know a lot about cars and have a 11 sec time slip but there is a right way and a wrong way to dealing with people. You're in the military and I was in the military and I know very well about people like you. I can tell by the way you deal with people on this board. You are an officer? Not sure how navy's rank structure goes but I know you wave been in forever and a day and probably have many troops under you. Do you also treat them like dumba$$es too? Pretty sure you do. Respect is earned not demanded. Yeah you have your little following here with people ever so impressed with a 11 sec slip. But I tell you if you treat people in your unit the same way you treat people here you have many troops taking garbage behind your back. You can be a good mentor for people wanting to learn about cars because you know your **** but you should know you can get more bees with honey than a flyswatter. You already know this though which makes me think that you go out of your way to stir stuff up.
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Re: 95 Z28 Vs. 04 Cobra.... oh wow...

Originally Posted by ZeeDub
When did i say i knew more than anyone else? Or that i knew more than any 1 person in this forum? or that my knowledge was even close to expert?!?!?!?!?



Originally Posted by ZeeDub
your probably right, but whether you want to believe me or not (and i couldnt blame you if you didnt, after all you dont know me) i have driving skill above all others.... i can take the same exact car as someone else and run .2 seconds less in the 1/4 (in most cases) just because i have that skill...
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by filbielansk
Yeah Bob Cosby you know a lot about cars and have a 11 sec time slip but there is a right way and a wrong way to dealing with people. You're in the military and I was in the military and I know very well about people like you. I can tell by the way you deal with people on this board. You are an officer? Not sure how navy's rank structure goes but I know you wave been in forever and a day and probably have many troops under you. Do you also treat them like dumba$$es too? Pretty sure you do. Respect is earned not demanded. Yeah you have your little following here with people ever so impressed with a 11 sec slip. But I tell you if you treat people in your unit the same way you treat people here you have many troops taking garbage behind your back. You can be a good mentor for people wanting to learn about cars because you know your **** but you should know you can get more bees with honey than a flyswatter. You already know this though which makes me think that you go out of your way to stir stuff up.
LOL. Everything you said above is true - as far as you know. Perhaps we'll meet up some time and I'll give you the scoop from my perspective? Too bad this little discussion didn't happen a couple of months ago. There was an NMRA race in Joliet back in late July. We could have hooked up and had a cold one.

FWIW...an 11 second timeslip doesn't mean much of anything. There are plenty of cars way, way, way faster than mine (and slower ones too). There are pleny of people that have way,way more knowledge and experience than I do (and less too). You might be surprised on my view of things, but I just don't feel the need to type it here. And finally, I cannot control what other people say - be it good or bad.

You have a wonderful day.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeDub
so im guessing i would run a 14.1 or maybe even a 14.2... or maybe a 13.9? who knows... i will soon now....
That's great. It's hard to argue against real track times. You keep trying to base what your car can do with street races where nobody is using a timer, and mostly what you've been told is you just can't do that with ANY sort of reliability. At least get a GTech, if you're not going to get real 1/4 mile times.

Saying that you *think* you can run xx.xx because they guy you ran with says he does xx.xx is a kissing cousin to "I'm sure I have Y horsepower because my car came with X horsepower and I added parts A, B & C."

Ricer-ish... get the numbers or shut up about what you *think* you can do, whether you're talking about 1/4 mile times or horsepower.
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeDub
When did i say i knew more than anyone else? Or that i knew more than any 1 person in this forum? or that my knowledge was even close to expert?!?!?!?!?

actually, i never said any of those things.... thanks for making up lies to prove a dull and un founded point


Shall we examine some of your recent postings? Lets see, you are a better driver than anyone else as witnessed here:

your probably right, but whether you want to believe me or not (and i couldnt blame you if you didnt, after all you dont know me) i have driving skill above all others.... i can take the same exact car as someone else and run .2 seconds less in the 1/4 (in most cases) just because i have that skill...


....and that you have no idea who a real racer is:

more info from bill cosby....... how bout this dude...... i dont care who you are, how little or how much you know.... fuc-k off... your opinions/knowledge means precisely jack sh*t to me, and if anyone else is kissing your *** for info, i feel sorry for the poor dickless bastard....


and that according to you people only read to learn what they know about cars....looks like you stating that you had more knowledge than most because you work on your own cars:


as always jeff....... you know that... fact is? you should also know that this bull**** only pisses me off.... hearing a bunch of ****** talk like they know their ****, and all they know is what they can read from a book, or have learned from hearing about fixing a car.... like the guy that pays 8 grand to get his motor rebuilt.... knows every single spec of whats in it, what it does, and how it relates to the rest of the motor.... but knows nothing of how it REALLY works, or what it REALLY takes to install those parts..... someone whose only hope is a mechanic chargin $60+ an hour... i have actually put whole cars together man... thats the difference.... that nova was totally torn down and rebuilt... i replaced EVERYTHING in it.... how many people here actually do all their own work on their cars?


.....and that when backed into a corner you come out with something ridiculous like this:

my point exactly.... spoken like a true **** sucker.... anyone here see this as amusing? that another human being can kiss so much *** and still have an ounce of pride left? i dont do that.... when this bob cosby guy can PROVE to me that hes got the knowledge that backs up his mouth... then ill respect him... sorry man, but a pic you can dig up off the internet just isnt proof enough.... i could change my name to dale earnhardt jr. and send you a pic of him in the winners circle and try to play it off like its me.... dont show me pics man.... try and be a little more creative... cuz frankly? i dont believe you....... why would a guy renowned for his mustang accomplishments be lurking around a camaro board? just doesnt make sense to me.....


I have a picture of myself standing with Bob and his car at Martin I could post to satisfy your curiosity that this is indeed the man in the picture. Oh but wait, I might not really be me.....


all i said was, im not as dumb as all you guys try to play me out to be


The for God sakes stop acting like it then!!! Even your own "friends" have turned on you in the past few weeks, and though it is entertaining to see Bob rip you a new one over and over again, you don't know when to stop.


... I NEVER EVEN SAID I WON THE RACE! I SAID I HUNG WITH HIM, THATS IT!!! I dont care WHY i did, or HOW i did, or how bad of a driver he is, or anything about that race other than for WHATEVER REASON... i wasnt too far behind him


Does that mean if I stay behind a new Cobra on the on ramp because he was 1/4 throttle and me at full throttle on my daily driven Sunfire that I can proclaim that I am close to the same times as the Cobra? I mean, WHATEVER REASON that I was so close really didn't matter.....

.... i think im gonna take my car to the track and make a run just so i can shut some of you fuccers up.... and if i run a 14.5? so be it...


And it will prove exactly what has been said about your car in the first place. The fact that you are running your internet mouth about how fast your car is without a slip again goes against the statement you have made about how smart you are. Are you seeing a pattern yet?


i never claimed to be in the 12s.... on the track is a whole other story than on the street... yeah, hes gonna get more grip on the track to "show me whose boss"...but....so am i.... so we both have the same advantages, but our times will change


Wait a second here, the track is another story but you both will have the same advantages? According to you, neither of you spun on the street as you went from a "slow roll", so how is anything going to change, especially if traction is not an issue? And how are "times going to change" if you have never raced at the track?


.... like i said, the GT i raced with all his mods was (according to him) runnin a 14.2... and i was gaining on him before we hit the turn, then we had to stop.... so im guessing i would run a 14.1 or maybe even a 14.2... or maybe a 13.9? who knows... i will soon now


Only way to know is to actually visit a track.


.... can someone close this thread?


You have that very ability, or to at least the ability to delete this thread, with your edit functions.


as it has obviously been once again tarnished and crapped on by trolls.....


We can't help it if you crapped on your own thread with more childish idiotic babbling.

little varmint runnin around the board sh*ttin on other peoples posts to try and gain more credibility for themselves......


LOL... Besides the fact that I have been on this board nearly 6 years, I am old enough not to care a damn bit what anyone on a board thinks of me. I have enough "credibility" in the real world without worrying about a kid who looks dumber and dumber everytime he posts. Your best bet is to re-register as someone else and then get a personality transplant. Your current one is lacking in to many critical areas, and is not able to play anywhere else than under the bridge.



*Gag* just a bunch of happy-go-lucky, positive thinkers in here.... aint ya? (no offense to those who dont fit that discription)


Just tip-toeing through the troll ****, another typical day in the kills forum
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenZ28in503
thats funny..... you quoted a post of mine stating i had driving skill... to counter act a post where i said "i never said i was an expert in automotive knowledge".... how does that work? *grunt* anyways...

to mindgame, all i said was if he told me half the crap he does online.. to my face... i would smack the hell out of him... nothing more... i never said i was going to hunt him down, or that even if i saw him that i would do that... i just said that i know he wouldnt talk the same trash as he does on the net.... when the man is standing right in front of him...

to mightyZ28.... where you get that a stock SS of any year is running low 13s? you know GoFast908Z.... he has a 98 Z bangin WAY more HP than a stock SS... and i believe he told me his best was a 13.5..... id give a bone stock SS a 13.9 at best..... and i never said i would beat it, i said i would give it a run for its money... i gave that cobra a run for its money, and according to you all its a 12 second drag monster.... so what now? oh yeah... time to shut up

and to scott9050... your credibility just went to crap... you guys must be in the same preschool together huh? god damn i hate *** kissin...

to bob? damn dude... your reputation has you workin hard to live up to it eh? while i dont believe an 11 second time slip is anything worth saying you are the greatest that hit the streets... (9 seconds would have you high in my list of reputable people) but ill give you the benifit of a doubt, that with all the backup you have recieved maybe i should take a listen at what you have to say.... when what you have to say consists of more than a bullcrap verbal bash session over an internet messageboard.... you state you know so much more than me, yet no facts ever come out of your mouth.... you never tell me WHY a mustang cobra should have raped me... only that you are 100% positive it would.... and you never say why you think im a crappy driver (even though A: im not, and B: you wouldnt know anyways) you just talk crap..... when am i going to hear some real technical info? bedazzle me with your expertise... give me ideas as to what you think i should do to take care of the problem i have of a track slug (i know my car is slow on the track, but on the street i have to say there arent a whole lot of matches to be lost...) remember that half the fun of racing is helping your fellow racers build up their cars so they can give you a bit of competition.... without competition cars would be the way they were in the early 1900s.... gravity flow gas tanks with 1 BBL carbs and stagecoach wheels...... now what do we have? multi port fuel injection with massive pressurized fuel delivery systems and V8s with electronic distributorless ignition and solonoid shifted transmissions...... all in the pursuit of being a competitor in the autmotove industry... progress is what keeps things going.... and im just tryin to progress my self into the 12 second margin.... got advice?



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