94z28 vs Evo (Soon to happen!) Roll or Dig?
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Re: 94z28 vs Evo (Soon to happen!) Roll or Dig?
Originally Posted by frankthetank078
my friend has a 95 Z with intake, no cat, and gears. He raced a wrx with intake and exhaust and the subaru took him by about half a length and this was from a 40 roll so his gears didnt give him an advantage..maybe if it was from a lower roll but i no the wrx and evo are exactly like z28's and trans am's persay so you should take him if you drive good 
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Re: 94z28 vs Evo (Soon to happen!) Roll or Dig?
Dont be stupid.
Take him from a SLOW roll.
Go from no more than a 10-15 mph roll. Even with 2.73's you will have the TQ to take off pretty good. He will be dicked. He cant tack it up and dump the clutch like he could from a stop, and he cant rely on already making psi like he would on a higher roll.
Use your car knowledge to your advantage. I raced a WRX through 1st gear one time like that. Just a quick 10-50 run, and it wasnt even funny how bad it made a car ( That is close to as quick as mine ) look since he wasnt boosting when it started, and by the time he was, I already had some distance on it.
Slow Roll, slow enough he wont boost, and fast enough you will get traction.
Take him from a SLOW roll.
Go from no more than a 10-15 mph roll. Even with 2.73's you will have the TQ to take off pretty good. He will be dicked. He cant tack it up and dump the clutch like he could from a stop, and he cant rely on already making psi like he would on a higher roll.
Use your car knowledge to your advantage. I raced a WRX through 1st gear one time like that. Just a quick 10-50 run, and it wasnt even funny how bad it made a car ( That is close to as quick as mine ) look since he wasnt boosting when it started, and by the time he was, I already had some distance on it.
Slow Roll, slow enough he wont boost, and fast enough you will get traction.
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Re: 94z28 vs Evo (Soon to happen!) Roll or Dig?
<An AWD car that traps 110 will run basically even with a 2wd car that traps 110 from a roll.>
Of course it will, but the awd car will need more hp than the 2wd car to get to 110. An AWD car usually has 5-7% more drivetrain loss than a 2wd, that's where the disadvantage lies.
Of course it will, but the awd car will need more hp than the 2wd car to get to 110. An AWD car usually has 5-7% more drivetrain loss than a 2wd, that's where the disadvantage lies.
Originally Posted by John M
I've driven an Evo but never launched it or anything. I wonder if the 6spd they use makes them slower (than they otherwise could have been) because of the extra shifting at the beginning.
A well-ratio'ed 5spd means less shifting. The car makes enough power that it can pull any normal gears. Everybody who's raced knows shifts at the beginning take much more off your ET than shifts at higher speeds.
The gearbox in a Subaru STi is so short they often shift out of 1st before passing the timing lights!
AWD may not be ideal from a roll but it's not the handicap people make it out to be either. An AWD car that traps 110 will run basically even with a 2wd car that traps 110 from a roll.
A well-ratio'ed 5spd means less shifting. The car makes enough power that it can pull any normal gears. Everybody who's raced knows shifts at the beginning take much more off your ET than shifts at higher speeds.
The gearbox in a Subaru STi is so short they often shift out of 1st before passing the timing lights!
AWD may not be ideal from a roll but it's not the handicap people make it out to be either. An AWD car that traps 110 will run basically even with a 2wd car that traps 110 from a roll.
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Re: 94z28 vs Evo (Soon to happen!) Roll or Dig?
Originally Posted by HardcoreRM125
He cant tack it up and dump the clutch like he could from a stop...
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Re: 94z28 vs Evo (Soon to happen!) Roll or Dig?
Well, I guess you do have a point. But if I had one, I probably wouldnt. Not worth the wear n tear. Thats why I kinda like races from a roll. Everyone has traction, so the excuses arent as bad. And its not as hard on the drivetrain lol. I mean, dont get me wrong, I like launching the car, but I wont pass up a roll race just because its from a roll.
a dude with a hatch wants to race... 
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