5.0 vs Me in the Z
Originally posted by millhouse
I guess you and I see it differently. You have the "I'm to good for you attitude", while I have the "lets see what you've got" attitude.
Oh, and btw, with those 60's, I would have kept up with ya
I guess you and I see it differently. You have the "I'm to good for you attitude", while I have the "lets see what you've got" attitude.
Oh, and btw, with those 60's, I would have kept up with ya
Originally posted by millhouse
13.9 with a o/r h-pipe...which incedentally gave me virtually no h/p or torque gains whatsoever, it was needed to replace my stock pos one.
I hope I dont come across as ragging on your, or singling you out. I picked you to reply to though, so that's all that matters
13.9 with a o/r h-pipe...which incedentally gave me virtually no h/p or torque gains whatsoever, it was needed to replace my stock pos one.
I hope I dont come across as ragging on your, or singling you out. I picked you to reply to though, so that's all that matters
Originally posted by CrippleFightin
Well those 60's are on a modded car. Stock I dont think it would be so bad. You try runnin this thing on some GENERIC Remington street tires. I mean the name Remington should give away how sh*tty they are! Notice the damn near 13.0 on a 2.155 60? Let me put some DR's on it and drop .2 off that 60'. Would ya keep up then? Dont think so. And I doubt a stock 5.0 can get to 108 MPH in a 1/4 mile.
Well those 60's are on a modded car. Stock I dont think it would be so bad. You try runnin this thing on some GENERIC Remington street tires. I mean the name Remington should give away how sh*tty they are! Notice the damn near 13.0 on a 2.155 60? Let me put some DR's on it and drop .2 off that 60'. Would ya keep up then? Dont think so. And I doubt a stock 5.0 can get to 108 MPH in a 1/4 mile.
I completely agree that you have a faster car. 108 traps are nice
I never did say that stock 5.0's were going to trap 108 in the 1/4 mile. I did say though, up to 50 I could hang.
As for stock 5.0's dipping into the 13's, its been documented time and again. 5.0 bashing I think has a lot to do with it, i.e. 5.slow.
It's not to say all stock 5.0's are breaking into the 13's. Most well driven, well maintained stock (manual) 87-93 5.0's shouldnt have much of a problem getting low 14's out of them...provided that they have a decent driver.
One thing I never did mention. I would LOVE to own a 93 Cobra. I love the way they look. I dont hate the cars. I am biased, obviously, having owned so many F-Bodies. I do get your point though. I won't lie, I'd probably race a pinto if he provoked me. Like you said, its fun either way it goes.
Originally posted by CrippleFightin
One thing I never did mention. I would LOVE to own a 93 Cobra. I love the way they look. I dont hate the cars. I am biased, obviously, having owned so many F-Bodies. I do get your point though. I won't lie, I'd probably race a pinto if he provoked me. Like you said, its fun either way it goes.
One thing I never did mention. I would LOVE to own a 93 Cobra. I love the way they look. I dont hate the cars. I am biased, obviously, having owned so many F-Bodies. I do get your point though. I won't lie, I'd probably race a pinto if he provoked me. Like you said, its fun either way it goes.
lol, I though am quite unbiased when it comes to cars. I do favor domestics though. Most of the people I hang out with at the local "gut" are camaro guys. It happens to be a gm town...which is why I get so many looks from the opposition
. They know what I run, and I know thell kick my *** on the top end (it's happened before
).What I can agree with though, is the risks involved with racing. I normally will only run up to 50-60mph before shutting her down (45mph zones). It give me the advantage, and reduces some of the risks involved. All of the racing I do is spontanious though. I've been called out many...many times by people who want to organize a run. It's just not my cup-o-tea. I just tell them I'm a chicken **** and walk away
Originally posted by millhouse
I've raced several ls1's when I was stock. If you think that cars have to be modded to enjoy a friendly street encounter, you need to rethink your logic.
I've raced several ls1's when I was stock. If you think that cars have to be modded to enjoy a friendly street encounter, you need to rethink your logic.
Originally posted by millhouse
13.9 with a o/r h-pipe...which incedentally gave me virtually no h/p or torque gains whatsoever
13.9 with a o/r h-pipe...which incedentally gave me virtually no h/p or torque gains whatsoever
An off road H-pipe should make at least 10-15 rwhp on a stock 5.0. Don't get me wrong, I like the 5.0 Stangs. I had a '95 and rode in, wrenched on, and raced a few buddies, 5.0s. They are so-so stock and great when modded heavily. But stock for stock with equal drivers the LS1 absolutely rapes the poor little 5.0.
Last edited by Steve Y; Apr 12, 2004 at 08:19 PM.
I have to admit..i have heard some NASTY soundin 5.0's
..A buddy of my'n had one that was good for high 10's, he was in "fast fords & mustangs"..something like that..he could get the front wheels about a foot or 2 off the ground..it was sick! Yes, stock for stock, even my LS1 with 2.73's can pull away..but when you figure that you can get them cheap, drop some money into it..and have a badass car, thats what makes american muscle so cool! IMO..
PS-yea..i'll race anyone if they provoke..just to shut them up.
..A buddy of my'n had one that was good for high 10's, he was in "fast fords & mustangs"..something like that..he could get the front wheels about a foot or 2 off the ground..it was sick! Yes, stock for stock, even my LS1 with 2.73's can pull away..but when you figure that you can get them cheap, drop some money into it..and have a badass car, thats what makes american muscle so cool! IMO..PS-yea..i'll race anyone if they provoke..just to shut them up.
Originally posted by Steve Y
And how did you do against them? About 10-15 cars back by 100 mph if the LS1 owner could drive. I sure don't enjoy a 10+ carlength a** raping, anybody else?
And how did you do against them? About 10-15 cars back by 100 mph if the LS1 owner could drive. I sure don't enjoy a 10+ carlength a** raping, anybody else?
.Also, an o/r h-pipe with the stock 2-1/4 inch exhaust and no other mods will not give you 10-15 h/p. Perhaps with some supporting mods, but not stock. Hell, I'd be lucky to get even 20 h/p with my intake. Realistically, with all my mods I'm probably right around 225 h/p.
Originally posted by CrippleFightin
Slower is one thing, but rediculously slower is another. Whats a stock 5.0 run in the 1/4 mile? A low 15, high 14?
Overall, you never know what one has done to his car. This all started because I stated my opinion on a stock 5.0, they suck. My opinion. Another guy on here was the one that said they dont like racing them, I said I would. My words were, "I'll take what I can get." So why arent you ragging on the guy who said its disgusting?
Slower is one thing, but rediculously slower is another. Whats a stock 5.0 run in the 1/4 mile? A low 15, high 14?
Overall, you never know what one has done to his car. This all started because I stated my opinion on a stock 5.0, they suck. My opinion. Another guy on here was the one that said they dont like racing them, I said I would. My words were, "I'll take what I can get." So why arent you ragging on the guy who said its disgusting?
Last edited by scott9050; Apr 13, 2004 at 03:05 AM.
Originally posted by CrippleFightin
13.9 BONE stock is a little unbelieveable. I am in no way calling you a lier, but I'd have to see that in person to believe.
13.9 BONE stock is a little unbelieveable. I am in no way calling you a lier, but I'd have to see that in person to believe.
Originally posted by Steve Y
And how did you do against them? About 10-15 cars back by 100 mph if the LS1 owner could drive. I sure don't enjoy a 10+ carlength a** raping, anybody else?
And how did you do against them? About 10-15 cars back by 100 mph if the LS1 owner could drive. I sure don't enjoy a 10+ carlength a** raping, anybody else?


