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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)

Well a friend of mine has a mustang mach 1, i forget what year it is but its really nice for a stang. Its stock and has the shaker hood. So when i was leaving work i pulled up behind him, exchanged afew revs and got side by side. He told me it runs a 13.7 stock(he has never taken it to the track)so i figured it would be an easy kill. So we start from a 25mph roll(i have a stock clutch and dont want to kill it yet so we went from a roll) He had me at first due to the street being damp and me sideways 1st through 3rd. We tryed it 1 more time and i eased into the throttle instead of just slamming it and man was it one of the best races i was ever in. I kept looking over and his headlights were even to the back of my door. I still feel i could of done better due to the traction but we took it to about 110 and he stopped. We both have manuals but it seemed like he had better traction then me.

Anyways i was wondering whats the difference between the 200x mustang GT's, Mach 1's and Cobras. His car was suprisingly fast and i was thinking since i did my mods i could take cobra's and srt-4 neons but im doubting that since he did pretty well.
Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)

He had me at first due to the street being damp and me sideways 1st through 3rd.

Racing on wet/damp pavement
Anyway, Mach 1s run good from what I have read/seen.
Try one again on dry pavement.
You have more than enough done to your car to give a stock Mach 1 a loss.
Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)

Originally Posted by SSmoked
Anyways i was wondering whats the difference between the 200x mustang GT's, Mach 1's and Cobras. His car was suprisingly fast and i was thinking since i did my mods i could take cobra's and srt-4 neons but im doubting that since he did pretty well.
1999 ~ 2004 GT was the 2V 4.6 rated at 265 HP
1999, 2001 Cobra was the 4V 4.6 rated at 320 HP
2003 ~ 2004 Cobra was the Supercharged 4V 4.6 rated at 385 HP
2003 ~ 2004 Mach 1 pretty much had the N/A Cobra engine rated at 305 HP.

If I got some of these confused, please someone correct me
Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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Yea the streets were dry out that day and when i got out of work my windows were all fogged up and i wasint checking the street out much. My car barley breaks traction in first(unless i want it to)and only chirps second, nothing in 3rd on street tires. I remember when my car was stock i would kill GT's but the cobras raped me. I still beat him but he was a little closer to me then i wanted. So a mach 1 is basically a NA cobra instead of a S/C one?
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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They're supposed to be, but somehow they're much quicker than the old non-SCed Cobras. It's like the Mach 1 is the Mustang that Ford should have been building the entire time.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)

Originally Posted by Kris93/95Z28
1999 ~ 2004 GT was the 2V 4.6 rated at 265 HP
1999, 2001 Cobra was the 4V 4.6 rated at 320 HP
2003 ~ 2004 Cobra was the Supercharged 4V 4.6 rated at 385 HP
2003 ~ 2004 Mach 1 pretty much had the N/A Cobra engine rated at 305 HP.

If I got some of these confused, please someone correct me
Thought the 03/04 cobras were 395....Mach 1's are a few tenths faster then the 99/01 Cobras, manuals shouldnt have much of a problem running lower 13's .The 03/04 Cobras have ran in the lower/mid 12's @ 112-115mph
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)

the original post mentioned srt-4 neon. are they supposed to be a bad car? any info on them?
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by myslowcamaro
the original post mentioned srt-4 neon. are they supposed to be a bad car? any info on them?
They run LT1 like times stock...and get fast pretty easily... think theres 3 stages of performance mods
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)

Originally Posted by SSmoked
. He told me it runs a 13.7 stock(he has never taken it to the track)
How in the world does he know it runs a 13.7 then?

Mine was turning 13.30s all day long bone stock with full weight.

Add 4.30s and instant 12s.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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From what info he has on his car i guess is how he knows. Just like if you bought a stock 94 z and someone asked you what thoes run you would most likley say a low 14.

As for the neon srt-4 i raced one in my area when my car was stock and ran a 14.4 and the guy pretty much killed me. Had about a car length on me and said it runs low 13's. Their are many in my area and its impossible to resist raceing them. I really dont want an upset going head to head with one of thoes things.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)

Mikie, didnt realise you owned a Mach 1. Well he just bought it last summer brand new so its a 04/05. What are the differences in thoes 2 years for the Mach 1? I doubt his car would run a 13.30, im expecting low 13's with my setup and thats with the 2.73 gears and stock clutch.
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)

The Mach was realeased in 03 and carried over to 04. Those are the only two year models and they are identical in performance. There are a few slight cosmetic differences though.

If your Z runs low 13s and he is stock then its gonna be a drivers race.
If someone gets behind the wheel of the Mach and shifts regular with letting out fully on the clutch then yes he will run high 13s. These cars are meant to be shifted at 6,000 rpms while still in the gas go to the next gear.
The Mach can go close to 6,900 rpms so powershifting keeps the rpms up and they love it.


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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Those 2.73 gears with the T-56 are KILLING you. Get some 3.73s or 4.10s in there.

I was running mid 12s @ 111 with a setup nearly identical to yours. You should easily pull a stock Mach 1.
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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LOL he knows it runs a 13.7 the same way the import drivers know their cars run 10s
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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SMoked you should have an easy victory here man. Your cammed and you think you run low 13's?hmm..somethings wrong. You should have been pulling that mach.

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