200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by Mikie
How in the world does he know it runs a 13.7 then?
Mine was turning 13.30s all day long bone stock with full weight.
Add 4.30s and instant 12s.
Mine was turning 13.30s all day long bone stock with full weight.
Add 4.30s and instant 12s.
f I could have pulled that sixty in my TA I would have ran a 12 in stock form.
I couldnt do better then a 2.2
My buddy's 02GT seems to grab pretty well as well. Do tha mach's have a different suspension setup?
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by robb4964
My buddy's 02GT seems to grab pretty well as well. Do tha mach's have a different suspension setup?
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by 97bowtie
Those 2.73 gears with the T-56 are KILLING you. Get some 3.73s or 4.10s in there.
I was running mid 12s @ 111 with a setup nearly identical to yours. You should easily pull a stock Mach 1.
I was running mid 12s @ 111 with a setup nearly identical to yours. You should easily pull a stock Mach 1.
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by robb4964
What was your trap speeds for your 13.3? Nice 60's..I guess the new Ponies have Great suspension.The machs I have seen run have been between 13.5-14.0. A guy ran a 14.0" Auto" last year and there was another guy busting out 13.5's in a stick. I
f I could have pulled that sixty in my TA I would have ran a 12 in stock form.
I couldnt do better then a 2.2
My buddy's 02GT seems to grab pretty well as well. Do tha mach's have a different suspension setup?
f I could have pulled that sixty in my TA I would have ran a 12 in stock form.
I couldnt do better then a 2.2
My buddy's 02GT seems to grab pretty well as well. Do tha mach's have a different suspension setup?
Sometimes seeing a 2.0 which would bump my et up to the mid 13s.
Later
Mike
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by SSmoked
From what some people have told me, i will be lucky to hit 12's with 3.73's or 4.10's and a spec stg 3. IMO its impossible to launch with the stock clutch so that gonna hurt 1/4 times and ya the 2.73's hurt. When i did all my mods all i wanted to get out of it was a mid/high 12 sec daily driver. Ive gotten alot closer to it and just beating the cars i would lose to normally has deffinatly made it worth it.
A cammed LT1 w/gears should have NP running a 12 providing its driven decently. Dont listen to people. I have seen plenty of uncammed/bolt on LT1's hit the 12 second range so just do what ya got to do and dont listen to everyone else's negative opinion's. Prove them wrong.
Get rid of the Crappy gears....what is it your waiting for? Money?
Once you put the 4:10's in the LT1 youll be amazed at the change in its nature. You cant stomp mine from a roll w/out the tires spinning themselves into oblivion on street tires. Its a wonderfule thing.
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by Mikie
I was trapping 105 and my average 60' was a 1.97 or abouts.
Sometimes seeing a 2.0 which would bump my et up to the mid 13s.
Later
Mike
Sometimes seeing a 2.0 which would bump my et up to the mid 13s.
Later
Mike
We ran the Z on slicks for the 13.0 and it spun like crazy after a nice heating session. The first run with the LS1 after it was cammed nearly cost me the car as I heated up the slicks and it still provided no Traction. On takeoff. The TA went sideways , I let off the gas numerous times trying to correct it to maintain a straight And I ended up running a 13.2 w/a 3.1 sixty@111
Scared me for a few Runs I sat it out calming down.I pulled one 1.9 sixty in the TA and I couldnt get it into third gear" On DR's" Darn thing hung up on me everytime I got a decent sixty.
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by Kris93/95Z28
1999 ~ 2004 GT was the 2V 4.6 rated at 265 HP
1999, 2001 Cobra was the 4V 4.6 rated at 320 HP
2003 ~ 2004 Cobra was the Supercharged 4V 4.6 rated at 385 HP
2003 ~ 2004 Mach 1 pretty much had the N/A Cobra engine rated at 305 HP.
If I got some of these confused, please someone correct me
1999, 2001 Cobra was the 4V 4.6 rated at 320 HP
2003 ~ 2004 Cobra was the Supercharged 4V 4.6 rated at 385 HP
2003 ~ 2004 Mach 1 pretty much had the N/A Cobra engine rated at 305 HP.
If I got some of these confused, please someone correct me

Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Damn, i allways thought a Mach 1 was the same as a GT, just with apperance modifications. Never would of thought it would be faster then a N/A cobra. Guess i dont feel so bad now that he stuck next to me.
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by mach1dsg
is not the same N/A cobra engine. is the same engine used in the last Marauder but the cylinder heads are different(high-flow design,shared with the '03 Cobra), and the cams are different (5.4 Lincon Navigator) hence the impoved mid-torque powerband compared to the N/A cobra. the result, more tq in the middle of the powerband and a little bit more hp than a stock 99/01 cobra. no need to shift at 7000rpm to get the best out of this engine, but 1st and 2nd gear would go to 6800rpm without any problems. the mach engine was rated at 305hp, but in reality is making around 320-330hp in stock trim.
I have also read they make good power thrue out the entire power band and thats their strong point. They make and sustain power very well. Ford did good with the 4.6 liters.
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by SSmoked
Damn, i allways thought a Mach 1 was the same as a GT, just with apperance modifications. Never would of thought it would be faster then a N/A cobra. Guess i dont feel so bad now that he stuck next to me.
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by robb4964
Get rid of the Crappy gears....what is it your waiting for? Money?
Once you put the 4:10's in the LT1 youll be amazed at the change in its nature. You cant stomp mine from a roll w/out the tires spinning themselves into oblivion on street tires. Its a wonderfule thing.
Once you put the 4:10's in the LT1 youll be amazed at the change in its nature. You cant stomp mine from a roll w/out the tires spinning themselves into oblivion on street tires. Its a wonderfule thing.Is it normal for first gear to last all of 2 seconds when I'm only on part throttle with 4.10's? I just bought the car, and I don't know if I can tune that to hang out a little more... It's great when I get into the throttle - the car revs up nicely then... But at 1/4 throttle it shifts pretty hard into second, and I'd like to tame that down some, if I can.
I've got a Hypertech Power Programmer III, but I'm not all that sure how to really utilize it... I was debating taking it in and having it tuned professionally, but if that shifting is something I can adjust, I'd like to do it myself... And I'd really like to rev a little lower at 70mph, but I've been told by several people that it's just sorta the price you pay for steep gears...
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by robb4964
From what I hear machs dyno around 265 in manuals. Assuming 13% drive train loss...Give or take a percent..Then it makes around 305HP. But like most american muscle cars some probably run better then others.
I have also read they make good power thrue out the entire power band and thats their strong point. They make and sustain power very well. Ford did good with the 4.6 liters.
I have also read they make good power thrue out the entire power band and thats their strong point. They make and sustain power very well. Ford did good with the 4.6 liters.
Last edited by mach1dsg; Feb 18, 2005 at 01:53 AM.
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by mach1dsg
feel free to check the dyno graphs at mach1registry.com or mach1mustang.org, 5 speed mach1's are putting down more than 265rwhp in stock trim. automatics are making 255-265rwhp though, and we use 15% drivetrain loss on the 5 speed and 20% on the automatics 

. Im sure there are some pushing more then 305 But I think the majority will be more like ..well..305. Like the F-bods the ones I have seen seem to run 3-4 tenths different from eachother and trap 1-2MPH different.
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Originally Posted by neurotictim
Man, I'm sick of my 4.10's... It may very well be great for track use, but it's killing me on the street. For my automatic, it's
Is it normal for first gear to last all of 2 seconds when I'm only on part throttle with 4.10's? I just bought the car, and I don't know if I can tune that to hang out a little more... It's great when I get into the throttle - the car revs up nicely then... But at 1/4 throttle it shifts pretty hard into second, and I'd like to tame that down some, if I can.
I've got a Hypertech Power Programmer III, but I'm not all that sure how to really utilize it... I was debating taking it in and having it tuned professionally, but if that shifting is something I can adjust, I'd like to do it myself... And I'd really like to rev a little lower at 70mph, but I've been told by several people that it's just sorta the price you pay for steep gears...
Is it normal for first gear to last all of 2 seconds when I'm only on part throttle with 4.10's? I just bought the car, and I don't know if I can tune that to hang out a little more... It's great when I get into the throttle - the car revs up nicely then... But at 1/4 throttle it shifts pretty hard into second, and I'd like to tame that down some, if I can.
I've got a Hypertech Power Programmer III, but I'm not all that sure how to really utilize it... I was debating taking it in and having it tuned professionally, but if that shifting is something I can adjust, I'd like to do it myself... And I'd really like to rev a little lower at 70mph, but I've been told by several people that it's just sorta the price you pay for steep gears...
Gets the job done throughout the week while the beasts sleep. Trying not to kill them with miles.SO I dont have to put up with the gears all the time in the Z.
Re: 200x Mustang Mach 1 vs Me :)
Hey Robb,
You know... You might be onto something. We always run down at www.darlingtondragway.com and the track is so sticky its unreal. Even when I used to own my Stock 5 speed GT with 4.10s and bolt ons it was turning 2.0 60's
I think yours is a case of just too much torque (which is a bad thing
right?LOL?)
I never ever could get my stock LS1 6 speed down to a 2.0
We were always around 2.2 - 2.1
My Mach 1 as you probably already know has the live 8.8 axle like the GT so it makes it easier and taking off I always take off with the RPMs only at 1400 or so and ramp them up quickly after 3-5 feet off the line.
Maybe you need to make the trip down here and check out Darlington this summer as I love it and feel you wont be dissapointed. It is still an aweful long drive from K ville though.
Oh, and I dont have my dyno scanned in , but stock it turned 271 rwhp and 293 tq at Precision Dyno here in Belmont.
Later man,
Mike
You know... You might be onto something. We always run down at www.darlingtondragway.com and the track is so sticky its unreal. Even when I used to own my Stock 5 speed GT with 4.10s and bolt ons it was turning 2.0 60's
I think yours is a case of just too much torque (which is a bad thing
right?LOL?)
I never ever could get my stock LS1 6 speed down to a 2.0
We were always around 2.2 - 2.1
My Mach 1 as you probably already know has the live 8.8 axle like the GT so it makes it easier and taking off I always take off with the RPMs only at 1400 or so and ramp them up quickly after 3-5 feet off the line.
Maybe you need to make the trip down here and check out Darlington this summer as I love it and feel you wont be dissapointed. It is still an aweful long drive from K ville though.
Oh, and I dont have my dyno scanned in , but stock it turned 271 rwhp and 293 tq at Precision Dyno here in Belmont.
Later man,
Mike
Last edited by Mikie; Feb 18, 2005 at 09:50 AM.


