What is most important for traction
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What is most important for traction
I recently installed a cam and headers and now traction is really an issue. The only traction mods I have are Spohn lower control arms and poly torque arm mount. What is going to give me the most benifit? Subframe connectors, relocation brackets for rear control arms, springs, shocks, or drag radials. I realize that every one of these items is needed but I can't afford them all right away. So which should be done first??
Thanks for the input
Dan
Thanks for the input
Dan
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Re: What is most important for traction
tires are the biggest key factor in traction
lca relocation brackets are more for when u lower(lca should be parelell with the ground if so relo brackets wont do to much anyway)
lca relocation brackets are more for when u lower(lca should be parelell with the ground if so relo brackets wont do to much anyway)
Last edited by Zdrag28; Apr 29, 2005 at 05:28 PM.
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Re: What is most important for traction
Another vote for tires. If it's for drag racing, go with ET Streets; much greater traction than drag radials. Of course your differential will be your next problem.
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Re: What is most important for traction
guys say that the relocation brackets help eliminate wheel hop and the subframe connectors stiffen the body to transfer the weight better so thats why I was asking what peoples real experiences were
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Re: What is most important for traction
I have a lot of suspension stuff......BMR adj TA, Eibach drag launch kit, KYB adj shocks, Lakewood LCAs, BMR relo brackets.
I put in most of that stuff at one time, all except the relo brackets...and for me the relocation brackets really helped alot.
But tires will be the biggest thing in your search for traction.....with DRs my car hooks pretty decent, 1.8 sixty foots. Without DRs it will spin for days.....
I put in most of that stuff at one time, all except the relo brackets...and for me the relocation brackets really helped alot.
But tires will be the biggest thing in your search for traction.....with DRs my car hooks pretty decent, 1.8 sixty foots. Without DRs it will spin for days.....
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Re: What is most important for traction
I'd suggest the SFC's first. Adding drag radials with a cammed engine could be bad for the body. When you start hooking power on these cars they begin to twist and the gaps between the doors and fenders/quarter panels will start to get wider from one end to the other. Creasing the quarter panels has also been known to happen without SFC's. If you have the money do SFC's and drag radials.
Relocation brackets will help traction on stock height cars. Aftermarket torque arms that mount in place of the G-Load brace work well too.
Relocation brackets will help traction on stock height cars. Aftermarket torque arms that mount in place of the G-Load brace work well too.
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Re: What is most important for traction
Tires have to be first. After that, I'll vote for the LCA relo brackets, even on a stock ride height car. I would disagree that they are only for lowered cars. Even with everything else I had done to the suspension (QA1's, drag launch springs, Spohn TA, LCA's, panhard rod), there was still a lot of wheel hop. The Spohn LCA relo brackets eliminated all of it..... and were talking some decent HP levels. I didn't add the SFC's until the car was fast enough to require a roll bar, and I had the bar and the SFC's integrated into a single design. I didn't see any evidence of body distortion with the previous bolt-on/N2O engine.
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Re: What is most important for traction
i agree with fred and the others...
worry about the link that actually connects the car to the road...the tires
and i have brackets on my stock ride height car...traction is great.
i have decent tires and i get a good chirp powershifting into 2nd, not tons of spin....and that's with 380+ hp at the wheels
worry about the link that actually connects the car to the road...the tires
and i have brackets on my stock ride height car...traction is great.
i have decent tires and i get a good chirp powershifting into 2nd, not tons of spin....and that's with 380+ hp at the wheels
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Re: What is most important for traction
Tires for sure. But I would do the SFC's too. I did mine not so much for launching or handling, but to keep the car tight. Especially if you have a T-Top car. I do. I put them on within the first few thousand miles. I have almost 90k on the car now and don't have a single creek, rattle or squeek, and the roads suck out here in New Mexico. I felt it was money very well spent.
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Re: What is most important for traction
Originally Posted by mw
Is there any benefit to bringing the rear of the control arms lower than the front or do they just need to be level?
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Re: What is most important for traction
Depends how you plan to use the car. In my experience, for straight line traction, the lower the axle end of the LCA, the better the traction. Set it level in the static condition, and if the body has any squat at all on launch, the front of the LCA drops below the axle end, and the wheel hop starts. My car sits about 1/2" higher than stock in the rear, and I have the LCA's in the lowest hole in the Spohn relo brackets.
