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Thoughts On sub Frame Connectos

Old Nov 8, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Thoughts On sub Frame Connectos

I had a set of Sub Frame connectors, the bolt in Varity. I removed them this weekend as the start of my winter modes; I did it for a couple of reasons. Most of my driving is straight, and I wanted to save the 30 or so pounds at the track. I could not tell the difference with or without them. I do have a drive strap safety loop there so that tends to tie the two sides together.

Was this a good idea?
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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not really

bolt them in, and then weld them

i noticed a considerable change in the "feel" of the car on even straight roads

most agree that SFC are a very good "first 5" mod for thes cars
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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I'm not one of those people, and GMCAMARO is not the first person to notice this happening.

The car is not a wet dish-rag. If you want to see improvement in ride and handling work the suspension, and those are chassis parts. While they aren't bad things, they often are no help.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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I didnt notice too much with the subframe connectors but i did notice some. I did it more for the feeling that I helped the car stay together
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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I'm thinking Sam and the others are right. I have two sets of connectors I have yet to weld up listed in my sig in orange as a future mod. Both cars are pretty rigid IMHO but I have / am boosting hp with nitrous and an LS6 kit that is still on the UPS truck. Not being a road racer I don't know how much I need some of the suspension components to be upgraded. With shocks and springs I'm still thinking with my cars near and over 400 hp, the SFC aren't a bad idea but maybe ladder bars should come first. Well, maybe LCAs ....
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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besides them helping the rigidity of the car they will keep you from getting those waves on the top of your rear quarter panel, personally id rather have an extra 30 pounds and no wrinkles on my cars body

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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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I felt a huge difference in the rigidity of my T-Top'd SS. JMHO.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GMCAMARO
I do have a drive strap safety loop

Or maybe a Drive SHAFT safety loop.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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I felt a night and day difference when they were installed on my ttop car. The car feels much more solid and ridgid. My 69 Mach 1 when its jacked up on one corner of the car the doors don't want to shut as well and the same thing happened to my Camaro with out subframe connectors. Call my crazy but thats an unwanted amount of flex. Also with out them when i would jack up the front corner of the car the rear tire on that side would almost always stay on the ground, now the rear comes up very quickly and tilts the car to the opposite side. This is all signs that my car was flexing a lot, it may not really help the handling to add them but it sure gives me peace of mind knowing they're there.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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I noticed a significant difference after having mine installed. I do have a t-tops car so that may have something to do with it. But long story short, all of the annoying creaks and rattles quickly disappeared.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by davidz28guy
besides them helping the rigidity of the car they will keep you from getting those waves on the top of your rear quarter panel, personally id rather have an extra 30 pounds and no wrinkles on my cars body
you can look at these cars and see if they have been on a track either drag racing or road course buy the quarter panels.
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Jacking one corner up is not a normal thing, and given the weight of the car how could one not expect it to flex when you do that. And FWIW, it'll only flex less when you have SFC's and jack it up like that, not stop flexing at all.

If you want to add them *FINE*. I sell them, and would be happy to sell some to you too. But I prefer to sell the parts that actually effect the handling and ride most first.

And BTW, there are plenty of cars with waves that have SFC's too. To each his own, but these cars were designed as CONVERTIBLES from the get-go, and are far from flexy fliers. I add SFC's to 3rd gen's and Mustangs (not the new one) a long time before a 4th gen.
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