From what ive seen these are the biggest and baddest sway bars that i could find, is anybody running these and do you think of them, pics??


thanks,
-john

 

I have them

 

We have ST products. As a matter of fact the ST front bar was about all I used for a long time. Until I decided I could make a much lighter hollow 35mm bar. We also make a hollow 22mm rear bar as well.

The front bar is great (but heavy, 27 pounds). But, the rear bar is just way too large. You'll find most folks who like handling to be running around the 21 solid or 22mm hollow rear bars. While the car likes a big front bar to control the weight, roll and camber curve, the rear is lighter and doesn't lose any camber when the car rolls. So making it stiffer than you need to balance the front of the car only serves to make the rear worse on uneven pavement and give issues with powering out of tighter corners. See, a big rear bar tried to lift up on the inside rear tire. That can cause more wheelspin which is caused by less traction. That in turn makes the car more oversteer prone as well.

So, we put a lot of front bar on, and a moderate rear bar.

 

So would i be better off switching out my bars? If so can you give me some prices and the name of the brand? I hate the oversteer problem i have with the huge rear bar i have now.

 

Does that notion only apply to road racing and autocrossing? In a straight line application you benefit from a larger rear sway correct, if thats the case Id be willing to sacrifice a little of the cornering capability to benefit drag racing.
Also is there any significant benefit from the bars being hollow compared to soild other that just weight, is one stiffer in comparison to the other?

thanks Sam,
-john

 

I think you'd be much happier with a smaller rear bar. The front bar I'd keep unless you want to save some weight. I have our Hollow front 35 bar (13.5-14 lbs. vs. 27) on sale for $180 through Friday.

As for the rear. You can get 22mm bars in solid or hollow (Addco and my own made for me by Addco). They are $155 and $189 respectively (hollow rear on sale though Friday for $179). Again, the hollow rear is lighter than an equivilent solid bar by about 5 pounds. You can get a '93 1LE rear bar that's 21mm solid for about $100, but would need urethane bushings and endlinks. By the time you add those in the price is no better than the aftermarket alternatives. BTW, my hollow 22 is meant to mimic the stiffness of the solid 21 bar.

 

Big bars can help in a straight line. BUT you need enough power to twist the car up in the first place for a big rear bar to truly be any good. Basically if you don't have a tons of power and grip that causes the car to lay way over, a really big bar isn't a lot of good. And remember that stock is a 19mm. So even going to a hollow 22 is still a big change; some 33% stiffer.

Hollow bars are only slightly less stiff than solid ones. Being torsion bars, they work by twisting and the middle just doesn't move much anyway.

 

Thanks,
-john

 

The ST 35mm bar is hollow correct?? I am looking to get a sway bar here real soon from stranoparts. I also was thinking the suspension techniques. I want the best handling.....i figure i'm going to break into the NHRA rule of needing a roll-cage soon enough and i don't want to put one in, so i midas well go for handling.

 

The ST bars are SOLID. I would be interested in buying the hollow 22mm bar and then would probably be selling my 25mm solid rear bar

 

so how much hevier than stock is the ST 35mm??

 

For how much shipped to Michigan??? I need a bigger rear bar for my drag car but it's not fast enough to warrant a Wolfe, Spohn, Madman, ect drag bar.

 

Weight of the hollow bar approx. 13.5-14 pounds vs. 27 lbs for a solid 35mm bar. 13 lbs for the stock front bar.

 

About 14-15 pounds over a stock hollow 30. My hollow 35 is about 2 pounds more than a stock 30mm bar because of bigger tubing, which is very little considering the fact it's got twice the roll stiffness.

 

Sounds like we are talking about a rear bar.. It's $189 plus $19 shipping. $208 delivered to Michigan.