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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Struts...

Ok, I am lowering the car, so I took the struts off and took em to a shop to replace the coil and shocks. I get them back and there way off alignment.. I was .. Isnt there responsobility to mark em before they do there job? Now its a pain in the a$$ to get them right.
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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when you lower your car the alignment is going to be off due to the geometry in the suspension changing
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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The 4th generation F-body does not have struts. It has coil over shocks up from and regular coils out back. There isn't anything to mark upon removal of the shock.

It shouldn't be any harder to set the alignment on a lowered car than on a standard height car unless you went really low....
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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do you mean that the mount is turned wrong or the actual frontend alignment is out
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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Are you talking about the rear end being off? Because lowering your rear end enough on the stock pan hard rod will do that.

And where's a mod when you need one to move this to Suspension, Chassis, and Brakes forum?
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bw_hunter
The 4th generation F-body does not have struts. It has coil over shocks up from and regular coils out back. There isn't anything to mark upon removal of the shock.

It shouldn't be any harder to set the alignment on a lowered car than on a standard height car unless you went really low....
I think he means the upper mount in relationship to the lower mount on the shock. I had this very same problem. In the end I basically had destroyed 2 new shocks.
He will most likely have to bolt in the upper mount and then use a coil compressor to compress the spring enough so he can orientate the lower mount to match with the lower a arm. Been there......
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Ok, that is what I meant.. But still, couldnt that been aligned from the mechanic. I dont understad how off he was. I mean the one shock was tolally facing the other side when I got it back. How off can you be, I know you need mark em, but wasint that his job?

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I think he means the upper mount in relationship to the lower mount on the shock. I had this very same problem. In the end I basically had destroyed 2 new shocks.
He will most likely have to bolt in the upper mount and then use a coil compressor to compress the spring enough so he can orientate the lower mount to match with the lower a arm. Been there......
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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he should have done that, any tech that has done it for any time at all would have put it back the way it came apart, i know i would have
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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Yes, the relationship of the top mount to the bottom of the shock should have been marked for matching before it was taken apart. The spring will have to be compressed a little if you cannot get it lined up otherwise.
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Yep, that is what I am trying to do now.. It's a pain cause I am trying to run back and forth from the shop to get it right..

Originally Posted by shoebox
Yes, the relationship of the top mount to the bottom of the shock should have been marked for matching before it was taken apart. The spring will have to be compressed a little if you cannot get it lined up otherwise.
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Wrong forum... "LT1 Engine Based Tech" is only for engine topics, not suspension.

Moving....

PS: Rather than driving back and forth to the shop, use a spring compresser.



Next time, take along a copy of my online spring/shock swap guide, which notes that they have to mark the alignment of the components BEFORE they disassemble them:

For non-HAL shocks, it is important that you mark, in white paint or similar, the relative locations of the upper seat to the top of the spring, and the lower seat to the bottom of the spring and to the shock. And the upper seat relative to the lower seat. The lines must all match when the spring is reassembled, or you will not be able to get the unit back into the car correctly. With the HAL’s this is not necessary, because the spring will rotate freely on the lower height adjuster ring. The stock or other aftermarket will not rotate.
Old Jun 4, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Interesting
I had no such issues with my Strano/Koni install.
The upper pigtail of the spring fit's snuggly in it's recess and the lower isolater fitment was pretty straight forward.
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